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Post by Liam_Main Wed 20 Jul 2011, 7:41 pm

First topic message reminder :

England side:

1) Andrew Strauss (C)
2) Alistair Cook
3) Jonathan Trott
4) Kevin Pietersen
5) Ian Bell
6) Eoin Morgan
7) Matt Prior (WK)
8) Stuart Broad
9) Graeme Swann
10) Chris Tremlett
11) James Anderson

India side.

1) Abhinav Makund
2) Gautam Gambhir
3) Rahul Dravid (WK)
4) Sachin Tendulkar
5) VVS Laxman
6) Suresh Raina
7) MS Dhoni (C)
8) Harbhajan Singh
9) Zaheer Khan
10) Praveen Kumar
11) Ishant Sharma

Should be a terrific match and series!

My Prediction: England to win

Series Prediction: 1-1

C'mon England! OK


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Post by trebellbobaggins Sun 24 Jul 2011, 11:59 am

eek silly run to risk.

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sun 24 Jul 2011, 12:00 pm

cricketfan90 wrote:lol

this series will be a lot closer than the sri lankan one Whistle

that was only 1-0 but in weather saved sl from 3-0 there to be honest. this will be far far harder for sure.

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Post by Cowshot Sun 24 Jul 2011, 12:00 pm

Very tight if it's still going!

Phew!

Well, that ought to wake Trott up!

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Post by eirebilly Sun 24 Jul 2011, 12:00 pm

If the boys keep to this tempo, England may rack up a century this session
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Post by trebellbobaggins Sun 24 Jul 2011, 12:05 pm

All these runs are valuable. What lead would Eng need to put it out of Indias sight?

anything too low and the best in the world will fancy smashing the runs off with little trouble the way it's playing at the mo.

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Post by eirebilly Sun 24 Jul 2011, 12:06 pm

I would say a lead of over 400 should be the target. There is still plenty of sessions left and India's batsmen may not fail a second time.
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Post by trebellbobaggins Sun 24 Jul 2011, 12:07 pm

hmm.. four sessions at a ton a session for India easily?

450-470 seems safer.

Have to actually get the runs first but that would be ideal i'd think.

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Post by msp83 Sun 24 Jul 2011, 12:08 pm

I think Dhoni made a mistake in bringing Harbhajan on before He himself, or Raina, who has some chance of picking up a wicket had a bowl.

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sun 24 Jul 2011, 12:10 pm

dead atmosphere again. Honestly Indias support shame the home support.

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Post by eirebilly Sun 24 Jul 2011, 12:12 pm

India will have about 3 1/2 sessions so i think 400-430 is a very sporting target to set them
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Post by dyrewolfe Sun 24 Jul 2011, 12:13 pm

I reckon a lead of 400 will be more than enough. Batting tomorrow ought to be a lot tougher and the pitch should offer more for Swanny.

England can afford to accumulate steadily as they don't need to score that many.

Off for a while now to watch the GP. Hopefully that will ensure England get the runs they need. Wink
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Post by Duty281 Sun 24 Jul 2011, 12:14 pm

I think a lead of 400 will be enough but we shouldn't take chances against the World no.1 team. A lead of 450 will be the right option.

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Post by Cowshot Sun 24 Jul 2011, 12:17 pm

I've already hoisted the Cowshot flag (a bat, sinister, rampant, on a field of green) in the 450-470 camp. Not only do I think it safer against this Indian batting line up, which it would be rash to expect to to fold twice, and which could score lots of runs very fast if the track is flat; but it's also about the pressure created by an unwinnable game and the psychological marker for the series.

trebs: I rather like the "Lords' Hum". I don't think it's a lack of appreciation and support, and I don't think the England players feel it as such. Maybe I'm wrong...

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Post by Cowshot Sun 24 Jul 2011, 12:17 pm

Strauss gone. Harby strikes!

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Post by eirebilly Sun 24 Jul 2011, 12:18 pm

Singh finally gets one.
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Post by Guest Sun 24 Jul 2011, 12:19 pm

damn strauss out, but kp in now Smile

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Post by Guest Sun 24 Jul 2011, 12:23 pm

kp gone too Sad

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Post by Cowshot Sun 24 Jul 2011, 12:24 pm

...talk of possible scores is rapidly becoming academic!

Things need to calm down. No more wickets before lunch, please.

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Post by eirebilly Sun 24 Jul 2011, 12:25 pm

Well, 1 brings 2.... England still have alot of batting to come though
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Post by msp83 Sun 24 Jul 2011, 12:25 pm

How gracious from Andrew Strauss, gifting Harbhajan a wicket!. horrendous shot selection from the England captain.
And KP goes for 1!. Ishant too among the wickets.

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Post by Guest Sun 24 Jul 2011, 12:25 pm

it was an absolute beauty of a delivery from sharma though lol

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Post by Duty281 Sun 24 Jul 2011, 12:26 pm

We still need around 200 runs but we do have a lot of batting to come.

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Post by Guest Sun 24 Jul 2011, 12:28 pm

bell's gone too Sad

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Post by Guest Sun 24 Jul 2011, 12:29 pm

harbajhan isnt needed, sharma doing the damage

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Post by Cowshot Sun 24 Jul 2011, 12:29 pm

This is now a collapse.

What's going on? Inspired Indian bowling?

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Post by Duty281 Sun 24 Jul 2011, 12:30 pm

This is starting to get a bit like Edgbaston 2005....

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Post by LivinginItaly Sun 24 Jul 2011, 12:30 pm

bell gone... Don't throw this away England.

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Post by Cowshot Sun 24 Jul 2011, 12:30 pm

Come on Eoin. show us what you've got.

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Post by eirebilly Sun 24 Jul 2011, 12:31 pm

Wow, this is getting very serious now. Fantastic over from Sharma
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Post by msp83 Sun 24 Jul 2011, 12:31 pm

oh what is going on here? Bell's gone, Ishant finding a good line and length. Will Morgan step up?

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sun 24 Jul 2011, 12:35 pm

oh fog gods sake.. shambles england are back.,

didn't take long for the best in the world to show us up.

only india can win this now.

a lead of less than 400 was always going to have them thinking "useless england can't touch us", now we've giften them a feeble total.

kp.. great one second and a joke the next.


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Post by trebellbobaggins Sun 24 Jul 2011, 12:35 pm

eirebilly wrote:Well, 1 brings 2.... England still have alot of batting to come though

oi. shush Billy!!!

cursing them again.

anyway, it's Indias game now. only one team in this.

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Post by eirebilly Sun 24 Jul 2011, 12:36 pm

I posted after the wickets trebbs so not my curse lol
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Post by Cowshot Sun 24 Jul 2011, 12:37 pm

7 ducks in this match so far.

Should I call fowl?

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sun 24 Jul 2011, 12:38 pm

ah but you did say plenty of batting to come.. cursing them into their usual awful performance level!

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Post by eirebilly Sun 24 Jul 2011, 12:39 pm

Trye trebbs. I will keep a wee bit quiet now Very Happy
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Post by robbo277 Sun 24 Jul 2011, 12:39 pm

I'd say the game is fairly evenly poised. England are 245-4. We can still set 400+ if we bat well, but similarly India can look to be chasing 320 if they bowl well. Anyone's game at the moment, and with that flurry of wickets indicating that there is something in the pitch if you bowl well, the draw might now be the least likely result.

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sun 24 Jul 2011, 12:41 pm

this rather sets the scene for the rest of the series.

englands batting calm all gone and the usual headless chickens getting skittled by India.

we're mentally fragile, that's all there is to it.

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sun 24 Jul 2011, 12:42 pm

nah don't keep quiet Billy. j ust say nothing positive.. positive=curse every time for you in this match for some reason.

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sun 24 Jul 2011, 12:42 pm

yeah we could have india chasing 280 with a batting line-up that will be laughing their arses off at such a pathetic target. how shameful.

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Post by Guest Sun 24 Jul 2011, 12:44 pm

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sun 24 Jul 2011, 12:45 pm

i've turned it off.

what a joke.

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Post by Duty281 Sun 24 Jul 2011, 12:45 pm

Trott gone. F***.

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sun 24 Jul 2011, 12:46 pm

csn you believe they would hand india victory like this.

and the pathetic england toffs do nothing to cheer there . all you can hear are british indians. and who can blame them. a world better than englands shambles.

goodbye flower if your team gets buried like this in every game.

4-0 india.


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Post by msp83 Sun 24 Jul 2011, 12:47 pm

I wonder what happened to the drop KP brigade? lLeae the 2 doubles he scored in his last 8 ttests and 2-3 50s, otherwise his average is poor, nd along with left-arm spinners and parttime leggies, now he has developed a weakness against short bowling. So drop him and bring Bopara/Taylor/Stokes/Hick/Ramprakash!!!.

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Post by Cowshot Sun 24 Jul 2011, 12:47 pm

Now we're deep in the poo. Sharma has really found rhythm.

Only crumb of comfort I can see is that we have good bowlers too...

54-1 to 62-5. Blimey. Can't cricket change fast. This is like the bad old days trebs and I remember so well.

Any sedatives people have spare should be sent to trebs. I'm going to the pub this afternoon. Previous engagement. Honest.

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Post by Cowshot Sun 24 Jul 2011, 12:48 pm

I wonder what happened to the drop KP brigade? lLeae the 2 doubles he scored in his last 8 ttests and 2-3 50s, otherwise his average is poor, nd along with left-arm spinners and parttime leggies, now he has developed a weakness against short bowling. So drop him and bring Bopara/Taylor/Stokes/Hick/Ramprakash!!!.

chuckle...

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Post by eirebilly Sun 24 Jul 2011, 12:49 pm

Well from Being Englands total to set and win the game to India now being very big favourites. Just 5 overs has changed the who complection of the game.
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Post by Corporalhumblebucket Sun 24 Jul 2011, 12:49 pm

Obviously I was wildly over-confident to be talking glibly of a 450 lead at tea Sad

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Post by Guest Sun 24 Jul 2011, 12:50 pm

the other bad news as well is...

that harbajhan may get some confidence, cos we arent gonna look to attack now, so he can find a rhythm, and stick to it..

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