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Post by Liam_Main Wed 20 Jul - 19:41

First topic message reminder :

England side:

1) Andrew Strauss (C)
2) Alistair Cook
3) Jonathan Trott
4) Kevin Pietersen
5) Ian Bell
6) Eoin Morgan
7) Matt Prior (WK)
8) Stuart Broad
9) Graeme Swann
10) Chris Tremlett
11) James Anderson

India side.

1) Abhinav Makund
2) Gautam Gambhir
3) Rahul Dravid (WK)
4) Sachin Tendulkar
5) VVS Laxman
6) Suresh Raina
7) MS Dhoni (C)
8) Harbhajan Singh
9) Zaheer Khan
10) Praveen Kumar
11) Ishant Sharma

Should be a terrific match and series!

My Prediction: England to win

Series Prediction: 1-1

C'mon England! OK


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Post by trebellbobaggins Sun 24 Jul - 16:09

Sharma seemed to take an age with that over.

With England it'd be nice to think it was just a plan. Give away the wickets of the top guys to give the middle and lower such much needed practice they'll need in this series. It'd be very demoralising to do that and then come back well and get a good total. Total hogwash of course but it'd be nice to think it.

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sun 24 Jul - 16:10

i guess it's worth remembering that we were put in, in the worst conditions of this match. In that sense to be getting close to a lead of 400 for India to chase in the fourth would surely have been a position they'd have been delighted with. India will have expected the lead and a tiddly fourth innings chase again.

Just seems silly they batted so well during that period and so poorly in lovely conditions today.

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Post by Guest Sun 24 Jul - 16:12

commentators crack me up

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Post by eirebilly Sun 24 Jul - 16:13

In fairness, England really should declare if they get a lead of 420. That will still give India some hope and they might go for it.
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Post by trebellbobaggins Sun 24 Jul - 16:14

indias peerless legends likely to breeze to 420 Billy or could Eng nail them?

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Post by Guest Sun 24 Jul - 16:14

na they wont breeze that

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Post by GSC Sun 24 Jul - 16:15

Sachin to score all 420 runs on his own.
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Post by trebellbobaggins Sun 24 Jul - 16:18

hasn't he got cockney belly though?

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Post by Guest Sun 24 Jul - 16:20

he cant bat till number 7

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Post by dyrewolfe Sun 24 Jul - 16:21

Well, he's back out fielding, so maybe the docs gave him some pills to tide him over?

Tough cookies these Indians. Wink
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Post by eirebilly Sun 24 Jul - 16:21

I think that 420 is a big target to chase and it will leave England with enough overs to bowl them out.
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Post by trebellbobaggins Sun 24 Jul - 16:23

have to say i'm happier than earlier on. That was the ghost of old england that was.

Getting up near a 400 target for their opponents is a bit more like it.

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sun 24 Jul - 16:26

One of Broads very best. He was up againsty a fired up India and he has taken it to them. Well played.

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Post by eirebilly Sun 24 Jul - 16:26

This is a great fight back from England, they were under cosh but have hit back well
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Post by dyrewolfe Sun 24 Jul - 16:26

Broad continues his impressive Lord's form and reaches his 50 as well. Just another 30 or so needed IMO. Hope Strauss declares by then.
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Post by eirebilly Sun 24 Jul - 16:26

Excellent 50 from Broad. Nearly a 100 partnership as well.
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Post by trebellbobaggins Sun 24 Jul - 16:30

Yep these two need to whack up 30 more I think and then Eng can have a little go at India.

I think Indias confidence that they had won this will have wained slightly and they will know there is work to do.

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sun 24 Jul - 16:32

Nearly the record score needed for India now.

Get 30 more eng and get em quickly. Surely risks can be taken now?

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Post by eirebilly Sun 24 Jul - 16:34

420 - 430 will be the target. I expect a declaration soon. Excellent partnership.
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Post by Pal Joey Sun 24 Jul - 16:39

Yes excellent work from 62-5. I reckon next wicket Strauss will declare or as you say Billy..425 ish

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Post by eirebilly Sun 24 Jul - 16:40

This is a bit cheeky from Dhoni......

Doesnt look like Gambhir will bat in the second innings, such a shame for India
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Post by dyrewolfe Sun 24 Jul - 16:43

With Prior on 82 maybe Strauss will wait until he gets his ton?
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Post by dyrewolfe Sun 24 Jul - 16:45

Looks like Matty P is in a hurry to get his 100. Goes all T20 and smacks a six off Raina.
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Post by eirebilly Sun 24 Jul - 16:45

Just look at the run rate as well for this partnership. Simply brilliant.
6 for Prior, is Strauss waiting for him to get his ton??
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Post by trebellbobaggins Sun 24 Jul - 16:49

Well that is a great change of pace.

i bet India are gutted, they can't have seen this recovery. england of old would have been out for less than 80.

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Post by eirebilly Sun 24 Jul - 16:51

This is what i like about this new England team. When some fail, others always stand up.
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Post by Pal Joey Sun 24 Jul - 16:53

It's carnage now...c'mon get Prior on strike so he can get his ton.

Here we go........

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Post by eirebilly Sun 24 Jul - 16:55

Well played Prior clap
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Post by dyrewolfe Sun 24 Jul - 16:56

Brilliant 100 from Prior. clap

Steady for the first 50, he really accelerated for the second to get 103 off 120. Simply Amazing!

And England declare with the lead a whopping 457. Expect India will just try to hang on for a draw.
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Post by trebellbobaggins Sun 24 Jul - 16:56

Broad smashes them to bits here.

This must hurt. can they get this and win or will they be just trying to survive now?

after all the glory this morning India have been hurt for the rest of the day.

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Post by eirebilly Sun 24 Jul - 16:58

It has to be concerning for India now. Especially since Broad is fired up, a confident Broad is awesome to watch
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Post by dyrewolfe Sun 24 Jul - 17:01

Indeed. Brilliant innings from Broad alongside Prior. Lets hope his bowling matches his batting.
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Post by alfie Sun 24 Jul - 17:02

Perfect partnership - settled the nerves, then accelerated - and how! - to set England up for the ideal declaration clap

Prior once again shows his value and Broad follows up his back-from-the-dead bowling effort with a vital innings clap

Brilliant day of cricket so far - now up to the bowlers...

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Post by hokeye_on sticky wicket Sun 24 Jul - 17:02

India needs 458 runs to win... laughing furious


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Post by Pal Joey Sun 24 Jul - 17:03

Go for the win... England that is. They have plenty of runs to put some serious pressure on the top order now.

India will be in damage control. They don't have the devastating Sehwag, no Gambhir... even if SRT (coming in later), Dravid get settled in; it won't be fast scoring. Raina, Dhoni could go for it but I don't think they will. Yuvraj...can't see him doing it on form.

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Post by Stellar Key Sun 24 Jul - 17:04

I hope they are not too tired after that excellent partnership. England are well ahead of where they wanted to be today. India could be in disarray unless their batters show some solidity tonight.

Priors batting OK OK OK

Broad batted good too but his running at times Erm Very Happy


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Post by Pal Joey Sun 24 Jul - 17:05

VVS Laxman.... he's capable of a big score but I just feel the mountain will be too high to climb.

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Sun 24 Jul - 17:05

What great test this is shaping up to be. Almost impossible for India to win here, even f they had time its a huge total to chase. The draw is what theyll be chasing, just as well they bowled so slowly.

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Post by eirebilly Sun 24 Jul - 17:06

Their partnership was only 27 overs stellar, they werent out there that long.
One of the best partnerships i have seen when they were under so much pressure.
This is Englands match now i feel.
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Post by eirebilly Sun 24 Jul - 17:10

Early wickets here and India will be in dire trouble.
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Post by alfie Sun 24 Jul - 17:20

Getting them out may not be that easy - pitch tends to die here and not much bounce on show in these first few overs... might be some work for Swann later on.

But with half the Indian team in the medical tent you'd fancy England to knock them over in the 8 hours or so they have thanks to that fantastic Prior/Broad stand.

Was it really only 27 overs , Billy? Talk about turning a game around quickly!

Bet we're all glad the selectors are smarter than those of us who would have dumped Broad for Bresnan...

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Post by eirebilly Sun 24 Jul - 17:25

It was an amazing partnership alfie, nearly a run a ball.
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Post by alfie Sun 24 Jul - 17:33

Funny thing is I somehow "expected" something like that , once they had settled in - something about Prior just inspires confidence in these situations, and Broad just loves batting at Lord's...

Bet there were some nervous posts on here earlier on? ( I was watching the collapse but wasn't on line , but I don't have to look back to imagine what Trebs was posting Smile

These days England are getting quite good at getting out of holes.

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Post by eirebilly Sun 24 Jul - 17:39

Trebbs was in form alfie lol

This is simply a great test match.
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Post by trebellbobaggins Sun 24 Jul - 17:39

Indian bastmen solid as rocks. They can't get out.

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Post by GSC Sun 24 Jul - 17:39

Its England. We could be 20 runs away from victory with all 10 wickets in hand and we'd still have negative posts.
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Post by Guest Sun 24 Jul - 17:40

england on top Smile

but i feel we need some wickets

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Post by alfie Sun 24 Jul - 17:43

Here comes Broad...

Lets see if he can do it with the ball as well. We could use a wicket soon as they do have a couple of chaps who ...

There it is!!!! Bowled him...

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Post by dyrewolfe Sun 24 Jul - 17:44

Broad strikes again.

Mukund gone for 12 and India 19-1. Perfect start for England.
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Post by eirebilly Sun 24 Jul - 17:46

Good on Broady Very Happy
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