2014 Summer Transfer Window Thread

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Thu 17 Jul 2014, 20:50

Brighton are gonna sign Chris O'Grady to replace Ulloa

Oh the lolz

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Thu 17 Jul 2014, 21:18

Oh and QPR have agreed a one year deal with Rio Ferdinand for £3.6m a year in wages.

Honestly you'd thought they'd have learnt from the first time

by compelling and rich Thu 17 Jul 2014, 21:20

Olly wrote:Brighton are gonna sign Chris O'Grady to replace Ulloa

Oh the lolz

seen chris o'grady play for a few times for oldham, one of those players who gave you faith that i might still make it as a professional footballer. awful player, dont think he scored at his time at oldham

by Duty281 Thu 17 Jul 2014, 21:24

Olly wrote:Oh and QPR have agreed a one year deal with Rio Ferdinand for £3.6m a year in wages.

Honestly you'd thought they'd have learnt from the first time

Arry's going to bust another club, before saying "no one could have kept us up"!

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Thu 17 Jul 2014, 21:28

HBA - Id love him, gamechanger.

The O'Grady who scored 15 goals for Barnsley last year? Worth a punt.

by compelling and rich Thu 17 Jul 2014, 21:32

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:HBA - Id love him, gamechanger.

The O'Grady who scored 15 goals for Barnsley last year? Worth a punt.

one season doesn't make a player, other than barnsley the guy hasnt scored anywhere he's been other than rochdale when they were in league 2.

he's a 1 in 5 striker

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Thu 17 Jul 2014, 21:33

Ben Arfa might be worth a punt, but as John has said he's quite "out of shape" shall we put it, and probably the most selfish player I've seen play.

Also doesn't exactly work hard tracking back. Think Jarvis/Downing are better all round packages already tbh

by Hammersmith harrier Thu 17 Jul 2014, 21:38

Cracking bit business by Newcastle selling Debuchy and replacing him with somebody who is better, cheaper and younger.

by Guest Thu 17 Jul 2014, 21:40

Basically your right back (Demel) better be good because Hatem has one eye on pies & the other eye on only going forwards. As I say, I reckon we will be offering him out quite cheap just to get rid of him & out of the group. The fact he couldn't motivate himself in a WC year, summed it up. Great player on his day, those days are maybe two or three times in a season.

Completely agree Hammer. £5m for a Dutch International right back, cracking business. Whoever puts the valuations on Feyenoord players, clearly needs sacking. What was it, £6m for Martins Indi to Porto.

by Hammersmith harrier Thu 17 Jul 2014, 21:56

De Vrij is being touted as available for roughly the same price too, none of them are world class but can still do a job for any team. You'd expect to pay three times that for English alternatives.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Thu 17 Jul 2014, 22:57

Meh, only player in that team worth watching once Cabaye went and Pardew was too scared to get him in the middle of things. But least you've let me know who our right back is Wink

But what we're missing is the spark, that player that isn't predictable and opponents don't just zone into a pattern of play. Downing and Jarvis are far too traditional to both play. Our system next year will ideally be based on one traditional winger and then one attacking midfielder who drifts wide. Downing shows signs of tucking in well on the right but doesnt have any instinct for goal so we lose that threat.

Not sure Janmaat is better than Debuchy. In fact, I don't think he is at all, and I think if he was any good he'd be a Man United player.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Thu 17 Jul 2014, 22:59

I trust very little of those Dutch defenders to be any good when LVG was desperate to have 5 at the back and would happily play a workhorse Kuyt in there.

by **Mat** Thu 17 Jul 2014, 23:04

According to some Sky Sports reporter, we're on the verge of signing a big-name striker. Whether that means plenty of characters or someone who is actually well known and good I don't know!

by Lowlandbrit Thu 17 Jul 2014, 23:08

John wrote:Completely agree Hammer. £5m for a Dutch International right back, cracking business. Whoever puts the valuations on Feyenoord players, clearly needs sacking. What was it, £6m for Martins Indi to Porto.

Feyenoord have just about got themselves back to their feet after some financial troubles, and all those players were coming in to the last year of their contracts. Better to cash in than let them walk at the end of the season.

by Hammersmith harrier Thu 17 Jul 2014, 23:08

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:I trust very little of those Dutch defenders to be any good when LVG was desperate to have 5 at the back and would happily play a workhorse Kuyt in there.

You've only watched the Dutch during the world cup haven't you Dolph?

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Thu 17 Jul 2014, 23:11

Hammersmith harrier wrote:
Dolphin Ziggler wrote:I trust very little of those Dutch defenders to be any good when LVG was desperate to have 5 at the back and would happily play a workhorse Kuyt in there.

You've only watched the Dutch during the world cup haven't you Dolph?

Yeah, I've never watched a game outside of the Prem and mainly just MOTD. Everything you say will be right and I'm just a blind fool cos I don't agree with you

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Thu 17 Jul 2014, 23:15

Alan Hansen said he was bad

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Thu 17 Jul 2014, 23:17

That Danny Murphy chap who used to play for the Foolhams said he was a not good'un

by Hammersmith harrier Thu 17 Jul 2014, 23:18

You bang on about this Dutch back five when LVG only used it during the world cup and hadn't used it prior to that, he lost his midfield linchpin and changed tactics because of that.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Thu 17 Jul 2014, 23:19

There's a division in Holland and our division over here, I know that

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Thu 17 Jul 2014, 23:21

Hammersmith harrier wrote:You bang on about this Dutch back five when LVG only used it during the world cup and hadn't used it prior to that, he lost his midfield linchpin and changed tactics because of that.

They couldn't play his standard system cos of one man and now you're going to use that as a defence of the players? Carry on, pal, its funny. About as funny as the pant wetting every time Van Gaal is criticised because he's been your manager a day.

by Ent Thu 17 Jul 2014, 23:22

Dolph mightn't like the Dutch for some reason but the defenders are still dodgy.

by Hammersmith harrier Thu 17 Jul 2014, 23:24

Strootman is far and away the best midfielder the Dutch have but do carry on thinking otherwise that the player central to how they played wouldn't be missed and couldn't be replaced.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Thu 17 Jul 2014, 23:40

Good to see enner Valencia tweet the wrong club Laugh

(unless Watford have pulled off a shock!!)

by Ent Thu 17 Jul 2014, 23:42

Just embarassing that.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Thu 17 Jul 2014, 23:56

Olly wrote:Good to see enner Valencia tweet the wrong club (unless Watford have pulled off a shock!!)

He was tweeting about his mate who'd just joined Watford

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Thu 17 Jul 2014, 23:57

by GSC Fri 18 Jul 2014, 06:26

When Ron Vlaars your best defender, they're probably a bit dodgy

by GSC Fri 18 Jul 2014, 09:34

Maybe a little off topic, but Phillip Lahm has retired from international football.

Thats the way to go out.

by NickisBHAFC Fri 18 Jul 2014, 09:36

Olly wrote:Good to see enner Valencia tweet the wrong club (unless Watford have pulled off a shock!!)

What an idiot that's brilliant HAHAHAHHAHAHA

by compelling and rich Fri 18 Jul 2014, 09:49

GSC wrote:Maybe a little off topic, but Phillip Lahm has retired from international football.

Thats the way to go out.

surprised at that news, he's only 30. would have liked him to have a crack at the euro's at least, try to do what both spain and france did and hold both at the same time. 32 would have been a better age to go out, got a feeling he might make himself available after all the pesky qualifying games are out of the way

by GSC Fri 18 Jul 2014, 09:58

I think theres something to be said for going out on top, at the absolute pinnacle of world football.

Rather that than play too long and be remembered most as a shadow of my former self.

by kingraf Fri 18 Jul 2014, 10:11

Sunday League team kick you out?

by GSC Fri 18 Jul 2014, 10:22

In other news, Leicester are continuing the trend of spending stupid money on good Championship strikers with a club record fee of 7m agreed for Ulloa.

by whocares Fri 18 Jul 2014, 10:24

GSC wrote:When Ron Vlaars your best defender, they're probably a bit dodgy

He himself recognised that this semi final was the best he ever played though. On that day he was maybe worldclass but his average Villa performance doesnt come close to that. Easier to concentrate on defending against one player (even if it is Messi) when you have 5 defenders, less space to cover.

by J.Benson II Fri 18 Jul 2014, 10:31

GSC wrote:Maybe a little off topic, but Phillip Lahm has retired from international football.

Thats the way to go out.

Best FB of his generation. Candidate for best ever!

by compelling and rich Fri 18 Jul 2014, 10:33

J.Benson II wrote:
GSC wrote:Maybe a little off topic, but Phillip Lahm has retired from international football.

Thats the way to go out.

Best FB of his generation. Candidate for best ever!

he takes his generation easily enough. id still have cafu and maldini in what ive seen.

by Hammersmith harrier Fri 18 Jul 2014, 10:40

I'd take Cole at his absolute best personally but he and Lahm are by far and away the top two this century.

by westisbest Fri 18 Jul 2014, 10:42

The thing with Vlaar is, for start I dont think he's as bad as some people make out.

As much as it pains me to say, when hes playing with jokers like Clarke & Baker, he has had to pretty much work as to centre backs.

So yes he has had some poor performances, also some good ones.

He had a good world cup and hopefully he can bring that back to VP this season.
There is alot on his shoulders when he's playing with sh1te players.

Hopefully Okore(jury still out on him), can stay fit and him and Vlaar do well at the back.

We will see.

by kingraf Fri 18 Jul 2014, 10:59

Cole was probably a better left back in their respective best positions, but I think Phillipp edges it because other than the best right back, he flirted with being the best left back in the world as well. He was also a class defensive midfielder.

by Guest Fri 18 Jul 2014, 11:00

Debuchy was a liability & couldn't defend. He was a a part of the time we were being thrashed 6-0 by Liverpool, 3-0 to Sunderland etc. He was a joke defender. Have to laugh Debuchy commenting about enjoying being back in the Champions League. The last time he was there, with Lille, he was a part of the defence that got banged for six by Bayern Munich. £5m for Janmaat is good business, especially as we've made £5m, selling Debuchy for £10m. If he's great, then great, if he's average, well it's only £5m.

I also hate when people think because LVG doesn't sign the player from his WC squad, they are immediately labelled rubbish.

by **Hero** Fri 18 Jul 2014, 11:07

I think you've done fantastic business myself with Janmaat and with the accusitions as a whole there's a lot more to be positive about than I thought there would be for Newcastle. Just have to make sure they don't switch off from Jan onwards.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Fri 18 Jul 2014, 11:34

Not rubbish, John, but I think its certainly something to take note of. If people are gonna blow smoke up his arris then I'm gonna bring the other points forward happily.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Fri 18 Jul 2014, 11:34

NickisBHAFC wrote:
Olly wrote:Good to see enner Valencia tweet the wrong club (unless Watford have pulled off a shock!!)
What an idiot that's brilliant HAHAHAHHAHAHA

Yet you couldn't read the post below explaining why he did it...

by Ent Fri 18 Jul 2014, 11:58

John wrote:Debuchy was a liability & couldn't defend. He was a a part of the time we were being thrashed 6-0 by Liverpool, 3-0 to Sunderland etc. He was a joke defender. Have to laugh Debuchy commenting about enjoying being back in the Champions League. The last time he was there, with Lille, he was a part of the defence that got banged for six by Bayern Munich. £5m for Janmaat is good business, especially as we've made £5m, selling Debuchy for £10m. If he's great, then great, if he's average, well it's only £5m.

I also hate when people think because LVG doesn't sign the player from his WC squad, they are immediately labelled rubbish.

He had quite a lot of rubbish to work with in that squad.

by kingraf Fri 18 Jul 2014, 12:05

Demba Ba off to turkey. Torres fights on.

by Derbymanc Fri 18 Jul 2014, 12:13

Can we all take a minute to appreciate Yaya Toure as he has graciously decided that he will honour his contract with City clap

I think after they forgot his birthday and didn't lavish him with gifts that for him to state that he will still play for the club that pays him his paltry wages shows what a great human being he is.

T!T

by Guest Fri 18 Jul 2014, 12:14

that got to a semi & won the third place playoff & had robben, rvp, sneijder, huntellaar, wijnajdum, depay and other young talent etc. just because strootman was not there & you had never heard of or seen the young defence before, either side of vlaar, you just label them rubbish. people make it out LVG performed miracles. garbage. he had an abundance of good quality players & a near world class duo in robben/rvp.

by Ent Fri 18 Jul 2014, 12:59

John wrote:that got to a semi & won the third place playoff & had robben, rvp, sneijder, huntellaar, wijnajdum, depay and other young talent etc. just because strootman was not there & you had never heard of or seen the young defence before, either side of vlaar, you just label them rubbish. people make it out LVG performed miracles. garbage. he had an abundance of good quality players & a near world class duo in robben/rvp.

Outside of Robben, RVP and Sneijder (who is past his best) he had a very limited squad and lost his best midfielder weeks before the tournament. No recognised goal keeper and started with a Villa centre half and De Guzman in midfield. It was a limited squad.

I'm sure these younger lads are solid enough players but compared to the German and Argentina squads he had bugger all to work with (less said about Brazil the better).

by kingraf Fri 18 Jul 2014, 13:33

To be fair to Yaya, whatever has gone on behind the scenes, he didn't shirk his load at City, and having a ton of cash dropped into your account every week doesn't mean you have to like your employers.

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