Ongoing NFL Discussion Thread V

[Pr4wn]

Tom Brady's ban has been nullified.

Red faces at NFL HQ.

[GSC]

He probably cheated.

But as I said before, the Wells report was pure garbage, and the case was about whether the NFL had sufficient evidence to suspend Brady

[sodhat]

I love the NFL getting a black eye. If Robert Kraft had Al Davis' balls he'd have sued the NFL too.

This opens up a big old can of worms though - Goodell seems so keen to have the FINAL SAY OVER EVERYTHING, and now a judge has made his final say irrelevant.

[GSC]

They've already lost in court twice before this.

[Simon Hill]

I think the only thing this does in the short term is free up Brady to play week 1, and there are no more repercussions. Other NFL policies are already pretty watertight with the courts. However, it does give Goodell a black eye if only because it proves that he's not very good at the legal side/has bad advisors, and I'd say that gives the NFLPA a little more leverage in future negotiations. It won't affect Goodells own position now much, but hopefully it will help bring about a change at the top sooner rather than later.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Kraft Frak up majorly by accepting the team penalties, and in all likelihood if he'd gone after the league Goodell could've been in trouble.

Brady is gonna drop a 50 burger on Pittsburgh

[Pr4wn]

There's no doubt in my mind that Brady cheated, and I'm not sure that the Wells report was "garbage". The report concluded that Brady was "generally aware" of what was going on. The NFL asked Wells for his opinion on the matter and it concluded that, on the balance of probability, Brady knew what was going on. Not many of us would argue with that.

However, to issue a suspension on something that is probably true is ridiculous. Roger has a lot of egg on his face.

[GSC]

The NFL didn't ask Wells for his opinion on the matter. They paid him to produce a report that favoured punishing Brady.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

I'm still p1ssed that Kraft bizarrely accepted the freakin team penalties, which were and still are frankly outrageous

[Pr4wn]

The NFL didn't ask Wells for his opinion on the matter. They paid him to produce a report that favoured punishing Brady.

Ironic that this claim is more spurious than the charges against Brady himself.

[GSC]

Considering a federal judge went on record about Wells being "independent" and he's being taken to court by the former OL coach for the report he did on Incognito, id say there's reasonable basis for that.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Pash was also allowed to read and edit the report before it was published

[mikeygnfl]

Matt Barkley has been traded to the Cardinals. That could turn out to be a good move for him. He is probably much more of a Bruce Arians QB than a Chip Kelly QB. It could also, possibly, open up a spot on the Eagles roster for a certain player called Tim Tebow.

[GSC]

How is Matt Barkley a Bruce Arians QB?

Id struggle to think of a worse fit.

[mikeygnfl]

In that he will probably get more time to develop. I think Chip Kelly is more of a 'win now' coach.

[GSC]

He had 2 years on the roster and 3 training camps...

In reality, he doesn't have a NFL calibre arm, and he just isnt good enough in other areas to compensate.

[GSC]

The Redskins being the gift that keeps on giving, will keep RG3 as backup. Cannot wait until he gets hurt and is guaranteed 16m next year

[Thomond]

Barkley going is a strange one. Not a fit for a deep throwing offense. At best you could have seen him develop like Alex Smith, but that was a long shot. May happen but I doubt it, similar arm strength to Smith but none of the good sides of Smith's game.

[skins4ever]

Matt Barkley has been traded to the Cardinals. That could turn out to be a good move for him. He is probably much more of a Bruce Arians QB than a Chip Kelly QB. It could also, possibly, open up a spot on the Eagles roster for a certain player called Tim Tebow.

Nope, Tebow gone too.

Skins keeping RGIII for now kinda makes sense. If he takes this as the sign it is, that he has talent but has to develop his QB skill set, he could turn this around. OTOH he may be good trade bait 2-4 weeks in if another QB goes down and someone gets desperate. And I refuse to pin all my hopes on Cousins anyway.

[GSC]

The 16m injury guarantee makes him untradable.

[NYJ]

I'm still p1ssed that Kraft bizarrely accepted the freakin team penalties, which were and still are frankly outrageous

Accepting no penalties would mean that the Pats did nothing wrong. Clearly they did. Proving Tom Brady's involvement in it was the sticking point between both sides.

He's still guilty as hell even if we can't prove it.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Only 4 of the 8 players Pittsburgh drafted are on their 53 as Doran Grant CB picked 121st overall becomes the highest pick from this year's class to be waived/released

[BamBam]

Just done a public draft on ESPN and some sad barsteward has 3 teams in the league and is trading all the top picks to one of them!!

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Pittsburgh openly coming out and saying they'll rough Gronk up at the line of scrimmage tells me they either haven't watched film of him or are just plain stupid.

[TM Moot]

The NFL is returning to BBC television as part of a new two-year rights deal.
The deal includes coverage of Super Bowl 50 on TV, radio and online, while a weekly highlights show will run on BBC Two and online from early November.

Not sure if this covers a weekly game, but will include the 3 Wembley games live on Beeb 2.

[GSC]

Doesn't have weekly games I think, just the highlights package (which is kinda irrelevant)

[CFCNick]

Sky have all the footballs. NYJ-MIA is exclusive on BBC 2, BUF-JAC is on BBC and Sky, DET-KC is on BBC red button and online.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/american-football/34195573

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Would've hoped they'd get one of the prime time games

[mikeygnfl]

Doesn't have weekly games I think, just the highlights package (which is kinda irrelevant)

Read somewhere that the highlights package may not start until mid-November anyway.

This news is rather paltry news covered up as 'great'.

This is a huge drop in live games on free tv from the 21 last year and about 38 a few seasons back.

[CFCNick]

Just got Gamepass on the cheap. At the top of the sign up page change the currency to Brazilian Real and it cos me £107 for season plus.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

I've still got no idea why channel 4 dropped it. What on earth they think will get more viewers at 1am on a Sunday night/Monday morning I dunno

[GSC]

To be honest, the highlights thing is kinda irrelevant anyway.

In todays world its available on demand online, pretty soon after games finish.

[NYJ]

I've still got no idea why channel 4 dropped it. What on earth they think will get more viewers at 1am on a Sunday night/Monday morning I dunno

Was it a case of Sky paying more or C4 actively dropping it?

[mikeygnfl]

I've still got no idea why channel 4 dropped it. What on earth they think will get more viewers at 1am on a Sunday night/Monday morning I dunno

Was it a case of Sky paying more or C4 actively dropping it?

I wrote a couple of times to nfluk asking that but they haven't bothered replying.

If Sky paid more, then why is the NFL decreasing its audience? I'm guessing they hard need the money a UK tv deal would bring. Plus why not insist Sky show SNF and MNF free to air?

If Channel 4 didn't want in why are they only showing repeats of Come Dine With Me?

If I had to guess Channel 4 lost the rights to the Super Bowl and the International Series games and chucked their toys out of the pram over Sunday Night Football.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Channel 4 dropped it

[CFCNick]

Channel 4 dropped it and told people via email BBC would have it. Then Sky announced they got it.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Yep - clearly sky jumped in once they heard channel 4 was dropping it and brought it.

No idea why channel 4 put so much into it last year and then just cut it all off...truly bizarre

[GSC]

At this point, would be surprised if JPP plays for the Giants again.

Mildly surprised if he plays more than 1 more season in the NFL.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Do your job is essentially patriots porn

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Ok I'm excited - today is gonna go so slow

[TM Moot]

anyone watching it live?

i'm going to 'tape it' and save it for Saturday, once i've taken Moot Jnr to Uni

[wadey101]

I am gonna tape it and get up early to watch it before work.

Too much hassle trying to avoid the score to watch it at weekend. Prefer being able to forward through all the stoppages rather than watching live

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

anyone watching it live?

i'm going to 'tape it' and save it for Saturday, once i've taken Moot Jnr to Uni

Not working tomorrow so will be up for it live! Tactical nap about to take place...

[Lowlandbrit]

Actual games must be getting close again, because Deadspin have started their annual look at why each team sucks: http://deadspin.com/tag/why-your-team-sucks-2015

Just bringing this up again since they've finished them up this week:

You guys can’t REALLY like this man. All of Wilson’s supposed “best” friends are probably stock models assigned to him by the marketing team for Abercrombie & Fitch. I wish I knew nothing about Russell Wilson outside of what he does on the field. The more I learn about him, the more intolerable he becomes. Never trust anyone who has done an Entourage cameo.

Now we know for certain that this whole fiasco went down because the rest of the NFL wanted this team punished for cheating in a THOUSAND different ways: spying, hacking, scuffing, pine tarring, stealing play sheets, cribbing notes, shredded evidence, embezzling, suspiciously preventing fumbles, racketeering, cooked books, cut brakes, arson, pipe bombs, booby traps, bear traps, trap doors, illegal formations, secret **** dungeons, satellite reconnaissance, visitor’s room glory hole cameras, x-ray playsheet analysis, Clomid planted in Robert Mathis’s glove box, MURDER. Tell me a way in which the Patriots have engaged in deliberate subterfuge, and I will believe it.

[Number-25]

Loving the old school references to "taping" the game

No game for me tonight- I have a 6am start tomorrow.... good night all

Enjoy the game!

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Bills give dareus what must be the most absurd contract in the league

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

This bird they've got on sky is

1. Barely able to string sentences together and
2. Not a looker

Not a good combination

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Hey sky guess what I don't think anybody cares about the bloody awful British players in the nfl, how about previewing the freaking game

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Now we have an interview with Thomas Davis for no apparent reason

[twelve283]

Got work in the morning so can't watch tonight.  GO PATS

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