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Post by Kenny Thu 21 Jul 2011, 11:28 pm

1st off this is not a wum . We all have wrestlers who we just dont get , whether its the gimmick , their wrestling prowess , mic skills or whatever some wrestler we just dont believe in .
For me right now that person is ADR , i dont see what all the fuss is about ?
Yes hes a decent wrestler in the ring but hes not great.
His gimmick is just a rehashed jbl .
His promos are all the same , i do appreciate english isnt his language and that cant help but give me a break ' My name .. my name is yadayada and its my destiny .. every week !.
Imo the reason behind his push is WWE wanting to keep their share of the mexican market .
I know this will not be popular but this is my honest opinion if ADR were american he would not be receiving the push hes getting and would be midcard at best .

feel free to disagree with me like i said its just my opinion and im sure lots of people will list his credits and how good he is compared to other wrestlers . But id also bet you have a wrestler you dont get/like aswell .



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Post by Brady12 Thu 21 Jul 2011, 11:37 pm

Not exactly massive on ADR either.... Agree with most of what you've say

They're trying to maintain the Mexican market & will inevitably turn him face when they phase out Mysterio

He's now won the Rumble & MITB & is he anymore over than when he 1st debuted? I don't think so

I said it before i'd of given the MITB Truth... His character has caught on although creative are in danger of turning him into a comedy act. He could complain about the conspiracy how he had the briefcase yet there was no longer a champion.... Then when he did have his chance he could of lost in a screwy fashion again blaming the conspiracy

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Post by Samo Thu 21 Jul 2011, 11:43 pm

Giving it to Truth made alot of sense. Could have had him cash in and lose to Punk that night, Would help further the conspiracy angle. Most might seem that as a was of the briefcase though...

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Post by robbo277 Thu 21 Jul 2011, 11:52 pm

Rey Mysterio. I have never really been impressed, and his "ultimate underdog" thing was stupid. I was with Chicago booing (on the inside) when he was climbing the ladder at MitB.

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Post by Kenny Thu 21 Jul 2011, 11:58 pm

robbo277 wrote:Rey Mysterio. I have never really been impressed, and his "ultimate underdog" thing was stupid. I was with Chicago booing (on the inside) when he was climbing the ladder at MitB.

lmao with the crowds reaction to Rey when they thought he would win .
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Post by Dr Gregory House MD Fri 22 Jul 2011, 12:02 am

Chris Jericho

Don't get me wrong he's not bad but I don't see him as the all time great all rounder and should be main eventer others do. His mic work rarely ventures above good and his gimmicks tend to get stale pretty quickly. In ring, while he is capable of wrestling very well when facing an opponent wih similar or greater ability, he just seems incapable of raising the game of a lesser opponent instead falling to their level.

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Post by Crimey Fri 22 Jul 2011, 12:06 am

Mr. Kennedy/Anderson

I just could never understand the hype around this guy, he's boring in the ring and I've never really been impressed by him on the mic, sometimes he even just becomes annoying.

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Post by Kenny Fri 22 Jul 2011, 9:19 am

invincibleILeak (CL-6WF) wrote:Mr. Kennedy/Anderson

I just could never understand the hype around this guy, he's boring in the ring and I've never really been impressed by him on the mic, sometimes he even just becomes annoying.

this is my point about opinion , im not a Anderson fan either imo hes ok but ive heard people say hes they new Flair so some fans are over with him as im sure loads do with ADR.
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Post by Enforcer Fri 22 Jul 2011, 9:23 am

Rey Mysterio for me as well can't stand anything about him. He has the occassional match that I find interesting, but nothing that justifies his spot on the roster being as high as it is imo.

I don't get the love for Alex Riley either. I know that is more from the crowds in the arena than on the Internet, but he is just another generic Superstar.

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Post by Kenny Fri 22 Jul 2011, 9:28 am

Enforcer wrote:Rey Mysterio for me as well can't stand anything about him. He has the occassional match that I find interesting, but nothing that justifies his spot on the roster being as high as it is imo.

I don't get the love for Alex Riley either. I know that is more from the crowds in the arena than on the Internet, but he is just another generic Superstar.

Riley i suppose has the right look but its far to early for people to be going over the top about him .
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Post by ADMIN Fri 22 Jul 2011, 9:35 am

Guys I just didn't get as much as other people:

Chris Benoit. He just bored me senseless. Suplex, suplex, suplex, suplex, frickin suplex.

Eddie Guerrero: Yeah he was good, upper mid card, but never great for me.

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Post by Samo Fri 22 Jul 2011, 9:37 am

Christian.

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Post by Kenny Fri 22 Jul 2011, 9:39 am

Hero wrote:Guys I just didn't get as much as other people:

Chris Benoit. He just bored me senseless. Suplex, suplex, suplex, suplex, frickin suplex.

Eddie Guerrero: Yeah he was good, upper mid card, but never great for me.


And i thought i would maybe get some stick with ADR think you might get more Hero with Guerrero .
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Post by ADMIN Fri 22 Jul 2011, 9:50 am

I don’t know what it was with him, I think at the time I was probably less interested in WWE than I’d been in a long time and I just never warmed to his character. ADR is very much the barsteward son of him and JBL though.

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Post by MtotheC's Wrasslin Biatch Fri 22 Jul 2011, 9:54 am

I never got Guerrero. I liked Benoit, but Guerrero did nothing for me, and I never saw him as a world champion.

I don't get Daniel Bryan. I don't get the excitement of him winning MITB. Clearly a brilliant wrestler, but no character whatsoever. He would be a boring champion.

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Post by Kenny Fri 22 Jul 2011, 9:59 am

You didn't like Latino Heat ? all that cuddling up to Chyna ... ive just been sick in my mouth . No seriously i liked Eddie as a worker rarely had a bad match .
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Post by Mr H Fri 22 Jul 2011, 10:22 am

The Miz. How he ever main evented Wrestlemania is beyond me. My reason for not liking him is exactly the same as InvincibleLeaks reason for not liking Anderson, which by the way i agree with that too.

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Post by Kenny Fri 22 Jul 2011, 10:35 am

I do think that WWE in particular have to take responsability for fans reaction or lack of it to certain wrestlers as they dont build their characters up enough before pushing them higher up the roster then they may deserve.
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Post by BloscarPit09-ASK_HIM Fri 22 Jul 2011, 11:07 am

God, I'm gonna get slaughtered for this one. Well, here goes..


Stone Cold Steve Austin.
Yep, I said it. I appreciate all he has done for the business, but have never got his insane popularity, and always found him very repetitive. Stunner! Drink water disguised as beer. Another stunner! Drink more water diguised as beer.

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Post by crippledtart Fri 22 Jul 2011, 11:11 am

Agree with most of what you say about Del Rio.

Anderson definitely.

I don't get why so many people on this board love Kane. I think he's unbelievably boring.

I've never got the appeal of Sting. I just don't see a lot of talent there and never have. The best work he ever did was in WCW when he didn't wrestle and didn't talk for a year.

Ziggler and Christian are two other board favourites who I see as midcarders at best (Ziggler especially has nothing about him that excites me).

I think people also massively overrate Mr Perfect and Davey Boy Smith.

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Post by Beer Fri 22 Jul 2011, 11:13 am

I was gonna say Bulldog.

I might get slated for this....

Bret Hart.

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Post by MtotheC's Wrasslin Biatch Fri 22 Jul 2011, 11:14 am

I agree with Crips on both Kane and Christian,

When people were berating the decision to take the title off Christian, I was bemused. He's just not world champion standard in WWE (his character now, probably is as a cocky, cowardly heel - but a few months ago he wasn't)

The love for Kane is bewildering

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Post by ADMIN Fri 22 Jul 2011, 11:14 am

Kane yep agree, good at putting others over, nothing more. Without the Undertaker link he'd have been just another monster heel filler.

Sting just never felt anything for too.
Same with RVD, actually RVD is for me the most overrated wrestler going. Lazy and sloppy beyond belief.

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Post by Enforcer Fri 22 Jul 2011, 11:16 am

RVD is so unbelievably boring now. He is doing the same stuff he has done since he started with WWE, but he is now doing it much worse!

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Post by BloscarPit09-ASK_HIM Fri 22 Jul 2011, 11:16 am

I agree on Kane also, always found him boring and diappointing in the ring and on the mic.

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Post by liverbnz Fri 22 Jul 2011, 11:18 am

Clarke James wrote:I was gonna say Bulldog.

I might get slated for this....

Bret Hart.

Stacked and ready for action.

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Post by Kenny Fri 22 Jul 2011, 11:23 am

[quote="Davieswasacrippledtart"]

I've never got the appeal of Sting. I just don't see a lot of talent there and never have. The best work he ever did was in WCW when he didn't wrestle and didn't talk for a year.
got to agree stings best ever work ('thumbsup') sort of like this new mad sting but why so blatanty copy joker
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Post by ADMIN Fri 22 Jul 2011, 11:24 am

Since he came back...The Rock.

For me it was like waiting on a new Star Wars film and then seeing Phantom Menace.

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Post by BloscarPit09-ASK_HIM Fri 22 Jul 2011, 11:28 am

Hero wrote:Since he came back...The Rock.

For me it was like waiting on a new Star Wars film and then seeing Phantom Menace.

I liked the Phantom Menace! Very Happy
Still, I do see what you mean about Rocky to an extent, but to be fair he hasn't had much time to really establish himself yet since coming back.

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Post by MtotheC's Wrasslin Biatch Fri 22 Jul 2011, 11:41 am

Hero wrote:Since he came back...The Rock.

For me it was like waiting on a new Star Wars film and then seeing Phantom Menace.

The disappointing thing about the Rock was that it was lazy.

He cut the same promo he would have cut 10 years ago - no progression.

Rocky by numbers

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Post by Beer Fri 22 Jul 2011, 11:43 am

BloscarPit09-ASK_HIM wrote:God, I'm gonna get slaughtered for this one. Well, here goes..


Stone Cold Steve Austin.
Yep, I said it. I appreciate all he has done for the business, but have never got his insane popularity, and always found him very repetitive. Stunner! Drink water disguised as beer. Another stunner! Drink more water diguised as beer.

Water disguised as beer?!

Where on earth did you get that from?

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Post by crippledtart Fri 22 Jul 2011, 11:50 am

Austin is really, really boring now, but when he was main eventing he was very good.

He has become a parody of himself since around 2002 and has been like that ever since, which is a real shame.

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Post by crippledtart Fri 22 Jul 2011, 11:52 am

Rock has cut some good promos since his comeback but I got tired of him sucking up to the crowd really quick. He never did that in his heyday. The whole "Team Bring It" thing feels contrived and is beneath him.

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Post by Enforcer Fri 22 Jul 2011, 11:54 am

He proved he can still be good on the Raw he hosted recently. His in ring promo and the backstage segment with Punk were really good.

But I am constantly underwhelmed by him, even the glassbreak doesn't do it anymore!

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Post by Sara Fri 22 Jul 2011, 12:23 pm

I don't get Rey Mysterio. I don't think he is entertaining or "creates magic", he is just annoying and boring to watch. The best thing he was ever involved in was when he was strapped to a stretcher and Big Show picked it up and smashed it into the ring post - comedy genius.

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Post by Enforcer Fri 22 Jul 2011, 12:38 pm

I loved that moment. I tried to find it on youtube to show the wife (who hates him more than me) but can't. Has anybody got a link please?

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Post by Sara Fri 22 Jul 2011, 12:41 pm

I have looked and can't find it. My Dad can't stand him and always remembers that moment fondly so I was trying to find it for him. It must be somewhere...............

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Post by Crimey Fri 22 Jul 2011, 1:04 pm

I actually like Kane, although you may think he's boring etc. I think he's probably the only character where everytime he starts to do something people get excited, despite the fact it almost always ends in dissapointment. His in-ring stuff isn't excellent but I think he's underrated on the mic, his promo last year with the lights dimmed in the Undertaker feud was brilliant.

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Post by ADMIN Fri 22 Jul 2011, 1:04 pm

CM Punk.

Just don't get the fuss

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Post by crippledtart Fri 22 Jul 2011, 1:11 pm

I've never really got what all the fuss was about WF.

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Post by Marky Fri 22 Jul 2011, 1:36 pm

I'm gonna get slated for this...

Vince McMahon.

What did he ever do for wrestling?

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Post by greggschickenbake Fri 22 Jul 2011, 1:43 pm

Sara wrote:I have looked and can't find it. My Dad can't stand him and always remembers that moment fondly so I was trying to find it for him. It must be somewhere...............

Backlash 2003; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdYYqE6ft0k

I have this on video, not gonna lie, it is a quality moment.

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Post by Bonesaw's ready Fri 22 Jul 2011, 1:49 pm

Honestly not just saying this to be controversial but a lot of what Shawn Michaels has done in his career has been lost on me.
Liked his in-ring work (minus the illogical selling) but have generally always been underwhewlmed by his character. Arrogant sexy boy? Yawn. Realisation of a childhood dream at WM twelve? Yawn. Championship run in 96? Yawn.
I only ever really bought into his chracter in 97 in his feud against Hart when he was essentially playing an extension of himself and very recently as the man desperate to break the streak

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Post by JoshSansom Fri 22 Jul 2011, 1:50 pm

Never understood the Goldberg love-in... yes he had a cool entrance but he was hardly good in the ring and pulled funny faces a lot.

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Post by Mr H Fri 22 Jul 2011, 2:00 pm

Bonesaw's ready wrote:Honestly not just saying this to be controversial but a lot of what Shawn Michaels has done in his career has been lost on me.
Liked his in-ring work (minus the illogical selling) but have generally always been underwhewlmed by his character. Arrogant sexy boy? Yawn. Realisation of a childhood dream at WM twelve? Yawn. Championship run in 96? Yawn.
I only ever really bought into his chracter in 97 in his feud against Hart when he was essentially playing an extension of himself and very recently as the man desperate to break the streak

You Sir, need to meet the back of my hand. I cant even be bothered to argue how much i disagree with you.

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Post by Bonesaw's ready Fri 22 Jul 2011, 2:06 pm

Mr H wrote:
Bonesaw's ready wrote:Honestly not just saying this to be controversial but a lot of what Shawn Michaels has done in his career has been lost on me.
Liked his in-ring work (minus the illogical selling) but have generally always been underwhewlmed by his character. Arrogant sexy boy? Yawn. Realisation of a childhood dream at WM twelve? Yawn. Championship run in 96? Yawn.
I only ever really bought into his chracter in 97 in his feud against Hart when he was essentially playing an extension of himself and very recently as the man desperate to break the streak

You Sir, need to meet the back of my hand. I cant even be bothered to argue how much i disagree with you.

that's ok, I know how popular he is. Just never really invested in him, apart from on the few occasions I mentioned

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Post by Mr H Fri 22 Jul 2011, 2:09 pm

Each to their own i suppose, but i think you are mental!

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Post by liverbnz Fri 22 Jul 2011, 2:16 pm

Brimstone.

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Post by MtotheC's Wrasslin Biatch Fri 22 Jul 2011, 2:21 pm

Just on ADR - I think there's always a place for a good foreign heel, and I think he has definitely got the skills to be WWE's.

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Post by JoshSansom Fri 22 Jul 2011, 2:44 pm

Electric Demon wrote:Just on ADR - I think there's always a place for a good foreign heel, and I think he has definitely got the skills to be WWE's.

I also think that he would have the ability to play a face as well - he could switch from rich aristocrat to philanthropist

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