If your team fails to win the RWC who would you like to see win?

by BATH_BTGOG Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:15 am

First topic message reminder :

If your team fails to win the RWC who would you like to see win?

I'd like to see France Win if England fail

by funnyExiledScot Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:21 am

biltongbek wrote:
funnyExiledScot wrote:I couldn't bear the thought of either Lievremont or P Divvy being World Cup winning coaches, so for that reason I don't want either France or the Boks to prosper.

Gee, that is a little insensitive, there are 43 million or so south Africans to think about.

You have just hurt my feelings.

I'm sorry, but I just couldn't bear either of those clowns winning the ultimate prize. It would devalue it for me.

by thebandwagonsociety Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:22 am

I've gone for France, because if they were to win the RWC;
- it would be their first rwc
- it means there will have been upsets in major games (NZ beaten in NZ, Oz/Eng/SA defeated at various stages)
- there will have been attractive rugby throughout the tournament

by Guest Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:36 am

Right I've removed the posts that are just carrying on the argument (and those trying to defuse the situation as they made no sense on their own). Stay on topic guys. It's not hard. You keep fighting on this thread and I'm locking it permanently. Thanks

by BATH_BTGOG Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:38 am

Thank you Rugbydreamer but once again it was the same names spoiling it.

by TheGreyGhost Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:39 am

Thanks rugbydreamer.

So concensus seems to be France then. Ouch. That'd probably mean they'd need to beat the ABs twice. Not sure I'm so happy about that.

by Thomond Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:40 am

Bath,your comment was deleted but I don't think many have said they hate England. There is a bit too much Irish discussion in here to be honest. It can be a bit of overkill. Suppose it fills the lull of the off season. The club season is back in a month or so!

Anyway I voted the Aussies,not really sure why it just happened.

by OzT Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:41 am

I am surprised not the kiwis, I have always thought they were everyone's fav 2nd side.

I still don't think the French can string 2 hard batches together. Twice they've played really well to beat the kiwis, and next game they were pants.

by TheGreyGhost Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:43 am

Well, change in refereeing interpretations. They've invariably gone from a NH to a SH referee. Or to a good referee from an unfit pasty one eyed blind, erm, referee.

by BATH_BTGOG Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:43 am

Aus isn't a bad choice, It wouldn't surprise me if they walk off with the prize.

by Boyne Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:48 am

England have the same amount of votes as Romania. Interesting.

by TheGreyGhost Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:49 am

I'm liking the Wallabies being installed as favourites/crowd favourites.

Last time that happened, NZ won the tournament.

I feel that having the next door rivals bigged up beforehand might just lend the breathing space and focus required.

by OzT Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:50 am

Prob cause a lot of people on here are English so they can't be voting England? I guess that must be it.

Then they must have voted France.

by Effervescing Elephant Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:51 am

Boyne wrote:England have the same amount of votes as Romania. Interesting.

And Scotland and Namibia and Argentina. Not interesting?

by Full Credit Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:51 am

I guess the next question is: If your team gets knocked out, do you want their victors to go on to win it or have their pants pulled down in their next match for sweet payback?

by screamingaddabs Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:52 am

Because there was no need to live in a realistic world on this one I went for the Italians. I'd love to see either them or France (far more likely) win. I think someone else mentioned non-English speaking being important and I kind of agree. I want rugby to go world wide and to do so we could do with a non-English speaking team winning. Argentina would therefore be good also.

I normally support Scotland when they're not playing England because I live here, so maybe they would be another choice.

I suppose basically my answer is "if not England then someone who hasn't won it before"

by Boston Exile Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:53 am

If Scotland mess it up then I'd be very happy to see Ireland do it. Could be swayed though by a team playing good open rugby, a sporting team that has always tried to play the game as I believe it should be, so maybe Japan. Not the USA, abuse at work would be too much.

Being practical if it is one of the SH giants then South Africa

by funnyExiledScot Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:53 am

As usual, people's second choices tend to be the sides playing a nice brand of rugby.

So NZ, Aus, Ire and Fr do well, whereas Eng, Sco, SA and Arg don't.

I don't think there's anything more sinister to it than that.

by Guest Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:55 am

Boyne wrote:England have the same amount of votes as Romania. Interesting.

Somebody must have clicked on the wrong button! Come on, no one likes us.

by HammerofThunor Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:58 am

Out of the one's likely to win it, I've gone for New Zealand. Just to stop all the choaking guff.

after that either France or Ireland (slightly leaning towards France)

by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:01 am

SafeAsMilk wrote:
Boyne wrote:England have the same amount of votes as Romania. Interesting.

Somebody must have clicked on the wrong button! Come on, no one likes us.

Awww

I voted for Samoa. I know it's a slim chance, but they play exciting rugby, and are a tier II non-English speaking country. Plus we may as well keep it in the family (though if GG had used the latter logic he might be the England vote Wink

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Above all, if NZ can't win it I'd like it to go to a team that hasn't won it.

by B91212 Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:21 am

Englishman, happily living in Canada so voted for them although I know of course there is no chance. Being realistic wouldn't mind if Ireland do well for personal reasons and wouldn't be upset to see New Zealand either, as others have mentioned they have continually set and improved the standard of international rugby and deserve it. Enjoy watching France and SA as well so again wouldn't mind them doing well, especially as they both have incompetent fools as head coaches. Guess I'm really just forward to the whole thing to start.

by AsLongAsBut100ofUs Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:24 am

mrsuperclear wrote:Ah I agree with you on the sub categories Bath but I don't think we're really blowing our trumpet on here that excessively at all (bar one or two bad eggs). I think you just see so many Irish articles on the site because there are, and I have no idea why, much more Irish posters on here than any other nationality. But, yeah, hopefully the sub categories will make your experience on here a little better if they ever bring them in. On whether we're really that good, we'll see very soon how good or not we are boss Cannot wait to find out either way

Tis not the season for tarmac-ing so they've nowt else to do! Ok!

[Just kidding!!!!]

Braveheart

by whocares Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:33 am

voted for NZ not because they are my 2nd prefered team (would normally support NH teams and/or australia ) but because of the financial and political harship that the N.Zealanders would bear in case they dont win a RWC at home... think NZRU really needs that trophy and it's important for rugby full stop.

by Irish Curry Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:36 am

I voted for Samoa i know most likely they wont win but someone new needs to win it. Outside of that France being the most likely team winning it who have not already. Someone like Argintina, Fiji or Italy would be nice to but unlikely. randy

by Irish Curry Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:38 am

[quote="whocares"]voted for NZ not because they are my 2nd prefered team (would normally support NH teams and/or australia ) but because of the financial and political harship that the N.Zealanders would bear in case they dont win a RWC at home... think NZRU really needs that trophy and it's important for rugby full stop.

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If NZ won it who's to say as the monkey would be off their backs they would just keep winning it which could destory the game.

by Luckless Pedestrian Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:38 am

This was a great idea for a poll by the way, BATH_BTGOG.

by KiwiMatt Thu Jul 28, 2011 5:31 am

Someone who has not won it before, however I cant see it happening. Sorry to all the Celts out there.

by BATH_BTGOG Thu Jul 28, 2011 5:47 am

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Re: If your team fails to win the RWC who would you like to see win?
by funnyExiledScot Today at 4:53 pm

.As usual, people's second choices tend to be the sides playing a nice brand of rugby.

So NZ, Aus, Ire and Fr do well, whereas Eng, Sco, SA and Arg don't.

I don't think there's anything more sinister to it than that..

Depends on what style of rugby you like, I like up your jumper style, but I was a forward.

Imagine if Arg won it, would they go to the 6nations or tri nations?

I'd imagine the Tri nation would want them the most.

by KiwiMatt Thu Jul 28, 2011 6:00 am

BATH_BTGOG wrote:.

Re: If your team fails to win the RWC who would you like to see win?
by funnyExiledScot Today at 4:53 pm

.As usual, people's second choices tend to be the sides playing a nice brand of rugby.

So NZ, Aus, Ire and Fr do well, whereas Eng, Sco, SA and Arg don't.

I don't think there's anything more sinister to it than that..

Depends on what style of rugby you like, I like up your jumper style, but I was a forward.

Imagine if Arg won it, would they go to the 6nations or tri nations?

I'd imagine the Tri nation would want them the most.

Argentina join the tri nations in 2012. Super Rugby is some time off yet though

by Taylorman Thu Jul 28, 2011 6:26 am

I'd pick Samoa as well. Have a lot of Samoan friends and this would do wonders for them as a nation. Their natural abrasive style is refreshing.

by flankertye Thu Jul 28, 2011 6:28 am

If England don't win, then I'd be cheering on the irish.

by InjuredYetAgain Thu Jul 28, 2011 6:55 am

It would have to be the Irish. They are from the NH, they haven't won it before, I like their style of play and, contrary to what some on here have said, I find them all really down to earth who don't come on and gloat just because they may have removed your trousers and given you a good spanking (all figuratively speaking) at Murrayfield - yet again!!.
I've never been one to subscribe to the "anyone but England" brigade and would have no problem if they won although I might not read a newspaper for a couple of years or watch TV for 10 years until the press's furore had died down

by Breadvan Thu Jul 28, 2011 8:32 am

TheGreyGhost wrote:Please don't let it be a team of mercenaries comprising nationals of 10 different nations, some of whom qualify only through exploiting qualification loopholes to the absolute reprehensible limits, who have arrogantly insisted on controversially wearing the colours of the host nation as a changed strip to avoid a non-existant colour clash, who's union have defied IRB and professional sporting ethics by betting on the outcome and hiding behind the thin veil of financial double-speak by declaring a "hedging of the financial position against losses incurred via variable performance related outlays".

Other than that. Failing an NZ win. May the second best side win.

by HammerofThunor Thu Jul 28, 2011 8:37 am

InjuredYetAgain wrote:It would have to be the Irish. They are from the NH, they haven't won it before, I like their style of play and, contrary to what some on here have said, I find them all really down to earth who don't come on and gloat just because they may have removed your trousers and given you a good spanking (all figuratively speaking) at Murrayfield - yet again!!.
I've never been one to subscribe to the "anyone but England" brigade and would have no problem if they won although I might not read a newspaper for a couple of years or watch TV for 10 years until the press's furore had died down

Just finish Greenwood's book and he said they always got on best with the Irish squad and they were a really decent group. If England don't win a New Zealand Ireland final would be great.

by **Biltong** Thu Jul 28, 2011 4:54 pm

It gives we such a warm feeling in my heart to see so much love for the Springboks.

No...

Really it does. Sad

by blackcanelion Thu Jul 28, 2011 5:06 pm

I'd be happy if England win it. A bit of a masochist really.

by welshjohn369 Thu Jul 28, 2011 5:55 pm

France win their pool and the cup, bragging tights for another 4 years joy Yahoo

by GunsGerms Thu Jul 28, 2011 6:23 pm

HammerofThunor wrote:
InjuredYetAgain wrote:It would have to be the Irish. They are from the NH, they haven't won it before, I like their style of play and, contrary to what some on here have said, I find them all really down to earth who don't come on and gloat just because they may have removed your trousers and given you a good spanking (all figuratively speaking) at Murrayfield - yet again!!.
I've never been one to subscribe to the "anyone but England" brigade and would have no problem if they won although I might not read a newspaper for a couple of years or watch TV for 10 years until the press's furore had died down

Just finish Greenwood's book and he said they always got on best with the Irish squad and they were a really decent group. If England don't win a New Zealand Ireland final would be great.

Probably helps that he always won against Ireland. Though Greenwood seems a thoroughly decent character and probably gets on well with everyone.

by GunsGerms Thu Jul 28, 2011 6:25 pm

biltongbek wrote:It gives we such a warm feeling in my heart to see so much love for the Springboks.

No...

Really it does.

Everyone wanted them to win in 95'. That not enough? Time now to spread the love.

by **rodders** Thu Jul 28, 2011 6:59 pm

biltongbek wrote:It gives we such a warm feeling in my heart to see so much love for the Springboks.

No...

Really it does.

Given the what the SA boys have brought to Ulster I wouldn't mind too much if the boks won but I'd prefer someone different...preferably Ireland of course Very Happy

. De villiers is a bit of a chump too so it's hard to imagine him being a WC winning coach although you certainly wouldn't begrudge the likes of Matfield more silverware.

by greybeard Thu Jul 28, 2011 7:06 pm

leinsterbaby wrote:
biltongbek wrote:It gives we such a warm feeling in my heart to see so much love for the Springboks.

No...

Really it does.

Everyone wanted them to win in 95'. That not enough? Time now to spread the love.

Whisper it quietly but there were plenty of Irish fans who were happy for England in 2003, me included. A great win and a team of greats.

by **Biltong** Thu Jul 28, 2011 7:07 pm

Thanks Roddersm, that just lifted my spirit a little.

Leinsterbaby, nothing wrong with spreading the love.................our way! Cool

by **rodders** Thu Jul 28, 2011 7:08 pm

greybeard wrote:Whisper it quietly but there were plenty of Irish fans who were happy for England in 2003, me included. A great win and a team of greats.

Don't tell anyone but I cheered England on in that final too... Whistle

by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) Thu Jul 28, 2011 7:14 pm

It wasn't just Irish fans Whistle

by Effervescing Elephant Thu Jul 28, 2011 7:19 pm

I'm welling up here! We need a group hug smiley. If your team fails to win the RWC who would you like to see win? - Page 2 769663

will do for now!

by GunsGerms Thu Jul 28, 2011 7:26 pm

I wanted England to beat SA in the last final. I was up for Oz in 03' though.

by **rodders** Thu Jul 28, 2011 7:30 pm

leinsterbaby wrote:I wanted England to beat SA in the last final

ok lets not push the love too far here.... Whistle

by BATH_BTGOG Thu Jul 28, 2011 7:31 pm

I was cheering on Wayne Barnes in the 2007 quarter-final Very Happy

by westisbest Thu Jul 28, 2011 8:33 pm

Bath

we're not that good, yet we seem to beat you every year.

by BATH_BTGOG Thu Jul 28, 2011 8:39 pm

I just looked up famous wins for Ireland vs the All Blacks on the web and I can't seem to find anything?

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