Celtic for goodwillie

http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/sport/3718914/Hoops-in-Goodie-swoop.html

Any thoughts? Geniune possibility or just the rags trying to make a bit of hype again

He'd be an idiot to go to Glasgow,

Firstly because he's a deadbeat mink, who can't control himself and who'd just get into loads of trouble, taunted by the immature and childish faction of whichever of the Ugly Sisters he joined.

Secondly, he already plays in that league and proven himself in it, Europe will be a mere glimpse every year so cannot be used as a carrot to induce him to join.
If he wanted to further his career he'd be better off at somewhere like Leeds, Derby, Forest playing in a really competitive league at good stadiums in front of a lot of fans every week, rather than just every fortnight.

David Goodwillie Goals Compilation

Be a good signing for either but agree he'd be wasted there.

Clarke, grow up, stop posting your pathetic links.

super_realist wrote:Clarke, grow up, stop posting your pathetic links.

Out of curiosity how many times have you clicked the links?

Just once on one of your others (you sad bas***d)
It such an old joke and you must be a very pathetic person to do so many.

super_realist wrote:Just once on one of your others (you sad bas***d)
It such an old joke and you must be a very pathetic person to do so many.

It's cause it makes boring pricks like you so angry!

don't want this guy at all for Celtic. No disrespect to them intended, but he seems to have the character and persona more suited to the Rangers club.

on the field or off it?

Him and McGregor, skulking round seedy bars harassing women who are in awe of these chancers

I don't think there is any truth in the story however if true I'd be torn on the matter, a move to Celtic would almost instantly make him a Scotland regular, he is also the kind of striker Celtic need, pace, strength, good in the air, good touch and vision, his goal tally has been impressive but IMO would improve at Celtic, on the other hand trouble does seem to follow him around, Glasgow wouldn't be the best place for the lad and the Championship would offer him more of a challenge and a different prespective professionally and personally.

I also think if we did go in for him we should offer the £2m asking price as he is worth it in terms of his ability and Dundee Utd must be fully compensated for their time and efforts with him

Agreed, The Old Firm cherry pick too much denuding the competitive element of the league at insolent prices. For the sake of competitiveness in our league it would be nice if they were decent enough to have a gentlemans aggreement that they only bought players from outside the league. After all, complaints about the lack of competitiveness in the league often come from OF fans, it might also help them in Europe to play against better quality each week, rather than have that talent that should be playing against them getting splinters in their backside from the Parkhead or Grayskull benches.

I don't think it be fair to players of other clubs if you deny them the opportunity to play for the top two clubs and the opportunity to potentially play Champions League football which might be their only chance to do that, I do however think that every club in Scotland when buying from another Scottish club should add a sell on % to the contract

Gaffer, I think in years gone by it would have been harsh to deny them the chance, but the likes of Hearts and Dundee Utd are closing the gap a bit combined with the OF falling back so to take their best players isn't particularly ethical for the strength of the league.
The only benefit for players joining the OF now is winning a few medals as European nights seem to be reducing occuring against increasingly worse opponents, and I'd have to question their motivation and ambition if a player from the SPL joined either of the OF, especially when Championship offer a highly competitive league and are a great shop window for them.
Glad to see Utd standing firm on an asking price.

I don't think the gap is closing, I think it was but the gap last season was wider than ever again, still I don't think it's logical or fair to stop players joining the OF from rival clubs, you'd find that a lot of players wouldn't want to join other clubs if they wouldn't be allowed the chance to further their career in Scotland, many of whom would probably support the OF

Then I'm afraid I don't see these players as being particularly ambitious.
Professional sportsmen should really want to be as good as they can be, that is impossible to achieve if you see a minor league as the zenith of your career.
Of course there will be players who couldn't play at a higher level (ably demonstrated by Kenny Miller) but someone like Goodwillie would surely be better off as a young man going to the Championship for a few years before trying a higher standard rather than be cocooned in the SPL.

And how many other Scottish players do you think could even float in another league saying as we're so terrible?

Not many Tip, the Championship seems to be a slight step up as it's a lot more competitive week in week out.
I think this might be more Millers level than the other leagues he's tried to play in.
It might not be that the really good players are so terrible in Scotland, rather that they don't get the supply, tactics, training to really show what they can do. Given better facilities and players around them they might show themselves to be better than I think, but if they stay in Scotland it's a microcosm of mediocrity and staying there doesn't exactly paint them in a good light.

fair point, but how do you suppose our players will snatch the attention of the other leagues if a promising player is forced to stay in st mirren for example?

I presume they have to try harder to stand out Tip but I agree, it's difficult, however signing for the Old Firm doesn't do too many of them much good, either that or state a willingness and desire to play outside of Scotland.

Okay but what about players from outside Scotland that play in the SPL. What if Rangers wanted to buy Sammie? Would he fall under these rules? Its hardly cherry picking if you buy a seasoned player

I don't think it shows a lack of ambition at all to want to play for Celtic (or Rangers) and find it a rather narrow minded genralisation just to say that

If you are a supporter of the OF then it's probably something that you want to do at some point in your career.
However if you aren't then gaining promotion from the Championship to the Premier League is probably a bigger achievement than winning the SPL and probably better for your career in the long run.
Most of the better players in the SPL could probably get into the better Championship sides, make as much if not more money, be noticed by bigger clubs who rate the standard of the league higher and play with better players against more consistent competition. If I was in such a position I wouldn't even consider either of the OF, 10 years ago when they and the league were much better perhaps, but given the European situation now and in future I can't see the point in remaining in the SPL if you have the talent to get a move to somewhere of a better standard.