Tremlett's hamstring. Risk him or not?
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Tremlett's hamstring. Risk him or not?
What do you reckon?
Don't know if I'd risk him myself, especially as Bresnan is a very good replacement.
Don't know if I'd risk him myself, especially as Bresnan is a very good replacement.
Hoggy_Bear- Posts : 2202
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Re: Tremlett's hamstring. Risk him or not?
i would rest him for this game and pick bresnan..
bresnan will suit conditions better as well...
the ball swings round corners at trent bridge
bresnan will suit conditions better as well...
the ball swings round corners at trent bridge
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Nott sure I'd pick Bresnan with Anderson and Broad both surefire selections. Finn allows us to keep our attack balanced.
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Re: Tremlett's hamstring. Risk him or not?
Depends on just how fit he is, but with Bresnan and Finn waiting in the wings, it's no great loss if Tremlett has to sit one out, even though he's been quality recently.
Were he to miss out, I'm really not sure who to choose. I would definitely leave Broad as the change bowler anyway, so who do I want to take the new ball: Bresnan or Finn? I'm leaning towards Finn.
Were he to miss out, I'm really not sure who to choose. I would definitely leave Broad as the change bowler anyway, so who do I want to take the new ball: Bresnan or Finn? I'm leaning towards Finn.
Re: Tremlett's hamstring. Risk him or not?
Is Finn even with the squad?
'Cause if they're not deciding on Tremlett 'til the morning, unless Finn's already in Nottingham, Bresnan will be the only option.
'Cause if they're not deciding on Tremlett 'til the morning, unless Finn's already in Nottingham, Bresnan will be the only option.
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Re: Tremlett's hamstring. Risk him or not?
don't think Finn is in the squad. If Tremlett is fit, pick him, otherwise pick Bresnan who'll do a fine job.
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Re: Tremlett's hamstring. Risk him or not?
jimmy will be key at trent bridge, where the ball swings round corners..
one jimmy jimmy...
one jimmy jimmy...
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Re: Tremlett's hamstring. Risk him or not?
breaking news...
zaheer out of 2nd test and gambhir doubtful
zaheer out of 2nd test and gambhir doubtful
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CF
To be honest this is hardly a breaking news.That was always going to be the case once Zaheer got injured in the first innings.However the Gambhir news is a surprise.I thought he had recovered.
To be honest this is hardly a breaking news.That was always going to be the case once Zaheer got injured in the first innings.However the Gambhir news is a surprise.I thought he had recovered.
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Re: Tremlett's hamstring. Risk him or not?
sorry it isnt breaking enough for u...
but when someone is ruled out of a test it is breaking news
anyway yes gambhir is struggling to grip a bat at the moment apprenantly
but when someone is ruled out of a test it is breaking news
anyway yes gambhir is struggling to grip a bat at the moment apprenantly
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not surprising about Zaheer, but he'll be a massive loss to India. Who do they pick now? Sreesanth - can they afford to have two out of three pacemen who could potentially go round the park at a venue which traditionally will favour the swing bowlers? Patel - not really that good a bowler IMO, but at TB with the conditions assisting him could do a job.
If Gambhir is out too then India are in big trouble. Will they pick Yuvraj and gamble on either him or Dravid opening?
If Gambhir is out too then India are in big trouble. Will they pick Yuvraj and gamble on either him or Dravid opening?
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Re: Tremlett's hamstring. Risk him or not?
cricketfan90 wrote:sorry it isnt breaking enough for u...
but when someone is ruled out of a test it is breaking news
anyway yes gambhir is struggling to grip a bat at the moment apprenantly
CF No need to feel insulted.I didnt insult you.I was merely pointing that we knew it all along.If a player gets injured and is suddenly ruled out then its a breaking news.But Zaheer was injured last week.He has not got injured again.Its just that,as widely expected, he couldnt recover in time.Thats not a breaking news IMO.
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it poses india with a problem if gambhir is inured there is no other opener in the squad.. sehwag injured only mukund fit lol...
i assume dravid would reluctantly open and yuvraj would find himself in the squad
i assume dravid would reluctantly open and yuvraj would find himself in the squad
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Re: Tremlett's hamstring. Risk him or not?
On the original question, if Tremlett is not fully fit, I don't see any need for England to risk. Last week India found out the real hard way how missing a bowler in a 4 man attack can take the heart out of yor bowling. Tremlett has been in fine form after he returned to the side in Australia, and he did creat lots of trouble to India's strong middle order. But England have got quality replacements available, Bresnan with his control, hardwork and improved pace, Finn with his wicket taking abilities, Shahzad if conditions favor reverse swing.......
In he eventuality of Tremlet missing the match, think I would go for Bresnan.
In he eventuality of Tremlet missing the match, think I would go for Bresnan.
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Re: Tremlett's hamstring. Risk him or not?
On Zaheer and Gambhir, India will be missing them big time.
It was at TB last time Zaheer blasted through England to give India a superb win which eventually helped them to the series. The ball does swing a lot here, and although Sreesanth can swing it, noone is as good as Zak when it comes to controling the swing, and working out batters. It will just be terrible.
Gambhir's case will be even more terrible. Sehwag wont be available for this match also, and young Mukund has only played 4 test matches so far. There is no other opener in the side. Dravid may have to open, and althogh he has a pretty sound technique, he's not mentaly comfortable opening the innings.
If Gambhir is not available, Yuvraj would come in, and the battin order may need a complete restructuring, as he can't bat in the top 3. VVS will have to move up to 3 and Yuvraj may bat at 5 or 6. As we all know, regardless of his terrific ODI record, Yuvraj has been a pretty average test cricketer wo in the past has had major trouble against spin and quality pace. England have the world's present number 1 spinner and a pretty organized pace bowling unit among their ranks.
With the spinner's position being leased out to Harbhajan Singh who has been struggling for impact, India has a real problem at their hands.
It was at TB last time Zaheer blasted through England to give India a superb win which eventually helped them to the series. The ball does swing a lot here, and although Sreesanth can swing it, noone is as good as Zak when it comes to controling the swing, and working out batters. It will just be terrible.
Gambhir's case will be even more terrible. Sehwag wont be available for this match also, and young Mukund has only played 4 test matches so far. There is no other opener in the side. Dravid may have to open, and althogh he has a pretty sound technique, he's not mentaly comfortable opening the innings.
If Gambhir is not available, Yuvraj would come in, and the battin order may need a complete restructuring, as he can't bat in the top 3. VVS will have to move up to 3 and Yuvraj may bat at 5 or 6. As we all know, regardless of his terrific ODI record, Yuvraj has been a pretty average test cricketer wo in the past has had major trouble against spin and quality pace. England have the world's present number 1 spinner and a pretty organized pace bowling unit among their ranks.
With the spinner's position being leased out to Harbhajan Singh who has been struggling for impact, India has a real problem at their hands.
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Re: Tremlett's hamstring. Risk him or not?
Hes not fit and England dont need to risk him.
They have two good replacemenst in Finn and Bresnan, and its a swingers ground not a bouncers anyway. Yes ideally he would play but hes nothing like the loss Khan is to India.
He was off pace and semi fit in the last game, and ineffective as a result. Its would be ridiculous to play him if he isnt 100% fit, and by the sound sof it he isnt.
really this question isnt that difficult :
Should you play injured players ? no, if they are fit enough to play they arent injured. England have a team of skilled medical progfessionals to help decide where the line is. I certianly wouldnt be inclined to push it just for Tremlett.
They have two good replacemenst in Finn and Bresnan, and its a swingers ground not a bouncers anyway. Yes ideally he would play but hes nothing like the loss Khan is to India.
He was off pace and semi fit in the last game, and ineffective as a result. Its would be ridiculous to play him if he isnt 100% fit, and by the sound sof it he isnt.
really this question isnt that difficult :
Should you play injured players ? no, if they are fit enough to play they arent injured. England have a team of skilled medical progfessionals to help decide where the line is. I certianly wouldnt be inclined to push it just for Tremlett.
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Re: Tremlett's hamstring. Risk him or not?
Play Bresnan, rest Tremlett and call up Finn.
Broad to open the bowling
Broad to open the bowling
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Re: Tremlett's hamstring. Risk him or not?
Give him a tough workout and net session today and see how he reacts over night. I wouldn't want Tremlett playing unless he's very close to full fitness and can get through the Test.
Another speculation is the wicket ; if it's quicker than Lords with good bounce then I'd be keen for him to play but only if he's ok. If not then tall bowlers Bresnan or Finn can do a reasonable job as stand in.
After the very good start earlier this week playing a first choice bowler but with a chance of injury would be would be a risk. I don't think it would be a backward move to rest him if CT's leg is not right.
Another speculation is the wicket ; if it's quicker than Lords with good bounce then I'd be keen for him to play but only if he's ok. If not then tall bowlers Bresnan or Finn can do a reasonable job as stand in.
After the very good start earlier this week playing a first choice bowler but with a chance of injury would be would be a risk. I don't think it would be a backward move to rest him if CT's leg is not right.
Last edited by Stellar Key on Thu 28 Jul 2011, 4:35 pm; edited 2 times in total
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Re: Tremlett's hamstring. Risk him or not?
Id have a bowling line up of:
Anderson
Broad
Bresnan
(If its going to swing)
Anderson
Broad
Finn
(If its not)
Or if they want to be brave then:
Anderson
Broad
Woakes
Anderson
Broad
Bresnan
(If its going to swing)
Anderson
Broad
Finn
(If its not)
Or if they want to be brave then:
Anderson
Broad
Woakes
Re: Tremlett's hamstring. Risk him or not?
If he's not fit, don't play him. Period. He has been injury prone all through his career. A small injury could become a mega injury with his history.
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