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Post by Guest Fri Aug 05, 2011 7:00 pm

With less than a month to go guys lets get the build up going.
Who do you see winning this year?

Will Nole live up to his #1 ranking and take the title?

What say you?

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Post by Solerina Fri Aug 05, 2011 7:04 pm

Andeeee!! Yahoo

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Post by Guest Fri Aug 05, 2011 7:08 pm

I'm looking forward to a hardcourt tournament.
I'm torn between Rafa or Nole. (sorry Sol)

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Post by yummymummy Fri Aug 05, 2011 8:06 pm

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Post by Liam_Main Fri Aug 05, 2011 8:15 pm

I think Jo Wilfred-Tsonga will get far in this tournament possibly the Semis or even Final, his games improving all the time. I think he could well be a dark horse in this competition
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Post by luciusmann Fri Aug 05, 2011 8:17 pm

My heart says Federer but my head says Djokovic!

So I'm holding off until the Canadian & Cinni are finished!

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Post by socal1976 Fri Aug 05, 2011 11:07 pm

I think all you brits are having a mass overdose of newcastle or bass, what are they spiking your beer with to come up with all these murray predictions.

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Post by Guest Sat Aug 06, 2011 12:19 am

Let's review the previous Poll Who will win Wimbledon 2011

Andy Murray 21% [ 14 ].
Roger Federer 30% [ 20 ].
Novak Djokovic 10% [ 7 ].
Rafael Nadal 28% [ 19 ].
Robin Soderling 0% [ 0 ].
Milos Raonic 4% [ 3 ].
Other (please specify) 4% [ 3 ].

So the top four player with the lowest votes won (I voted for him ahem).

I have a sneaky suspicion that Del Potro or Nadal might just win the US Open 2011. Murray needs to get himself a proper coach. Hopefully he will do better than the third round this year.

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Post by Danny_1982 Sat Aug 06, 2011 9:29 pm

socal - predicting that the runner up at the other hard court slam will win this hard court slam is crazy? Hmm.

I think he has a good chance. If someone had said 1 year ago that 2011 would be the year Djokovic destroyed almost everyone he met and would be the new world number 1, a lot of people would have said that person was crazy.

Hardly the prediction of the year, but I'm pretty certain it'll be one of the top 4 or Del Potro.

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Post by Guest82 Sat Aug 06, 2011 9:34 pm

So according to this poll more people think Murray will win the US Open than Djokovic?

How strange.

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Post by yummymummy Sat Aug 06, 2011 10:17 pm

Murray has a damn good chance of winning the US open !





The only strange opinion seems to be yours Guest82



Do you not follow tennis per chance ?

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Post by Liam_Main Sat Aug 06, 2011 11:49 pm

Murray won't win it, I'm beginning to doubt if he'll ever win a Grand Slam
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Post by hawkeye Sun Aug 07, 2011 9:32 am

This Poll should really be titled "Your Dream 2011 US Open Winner (pretty please, fingers crossed let it be this time)".

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Post by Jeremy_Kyle Sun Aug 07, 2011 10:04 am

I maybe a little partisan but I see very much Fed as a favourite to win this USO, closely followed by Djokovic and JMDP, with Nadal and Murray some distance behind. Said that, it's very early to make such a game with Cincinnati and Montreal still to play.
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Post by hawkeye Sun Aug 07, 2011 10:11 am

Jeremy_Kyle wrote:I maybe a little partisan but I see very much Fed as a favourite to win this USO, closely followed by Djokovic and JMDP, with Nadal and Murray some distance behind. Said that, it's very early to make such a game with Cincinnati and Montreal still to play.

Winning these tournaments is not always a good indication of who will do well at the Open...

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Post by Jeremy_Kyle Sun Aug 07, 2011 10:22 am

I think rather that indicating who is the likely winner, those two events can give some insightful information on who is not likely to do well at he open. There also may occur injuries or others unknowns in the meantime.
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Post by socal1976 Sun Aug 07, 2011 10:40 am

Danny_1982 wrote:socal - predicting that the runner up at the other hard court slam will win this hard court slam is crazy? Hmm.

I think he has a good chance. If someone had said 1 year ago that 2011 would be the year Djokovic destroyed almost everyone he met and would be the new world number 1, a lot of people would have said that person was crazy.

Hardly the prediction of the year, but I'm pretty certain it'll be one of the top 4 or Del Potro.

No Danny I don't have a problem with people picking murray, I just find it interesting that he tops the list in this poll although I don't think he would top this list if he wasn't a british player and this mainly a british site. Just making an observation, it isn't an odd pick to pick murray but just interesting that so many people feel he is the favorite on this site.

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Post by Guest82 Sun Aug 07, 2011 2:25 pm

yummymummy wrote:Murray has a damn good chance of winning the US open !





The only strange opinion seems to be yours Guest82



Do you not follow tennis per chance ?


Problem is, I do follow Tennis which is why I think it so strange. Djokovic has lost ONE match all season, Murray is a serial under-achiever at the US Open. If anyone wants to bet on Murray whilst giving me Djokovic I would be very interested.

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Post by CaledonianCraig Sun Aug 07, 2011 2:37 pm

Your point?

Seeing as Murray has reached all the slam semis (or better) so far this season that form makes him one of the favourites - it may break your heart that but it is a fact.

A serial under-achiever at the US Open yet has been runner-up there. Are you sure you follow tennis?
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Post by Guest82 Sun Aug 07, 2011 2:42 pm

CaledonianCraig wrote:Your point?

Seeing as Murray has reached all the slam semis (or better) so far this season that form makes him one of the favourites - it may break your heart that but it is a fact.

A serial under-achiever at the US Open yet has been runner-up there. Are you sure you follow tennis?

One of the favourites? Yes of course he should be, he's one of the best players in the world.
Favourite above Djokovic? No way, that's mental.

I would say losing to Cilic and Wawrinka is him under-acheiving.

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Post by CaledonianCraig Sun Aug 07, 2011 2:51 pm

And who said anything about him being favourite above Djokovic?

Sorry but being runner-up to Federer in the US Open is not under-achieving. He has already achieved lots at Flushing Meadows and well nigh certain one of those defeats you cling to was when he developed his wrist injury.

By your own admission he's one of the best players in the world hence why so many people are tipping him to win the US Open - nothing wrong with that is there?
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Post by Guest82 Sun Aug 07, 2011 2:58 pm

CaledonianCraig wrote:And who said anything about him being favourite above Djokovic?

Sorry but being runner-up to Federer in the US Open is not under-achieving. He has already achieved lots at Flushing Meadows and well nigh certain one of those defeats you cling to was when he developed his wrist injury.

By your own admission he's one of the best players in the world hence why so many people are tipping him to win the US Open - nothing wrong with that is there?

In the last two years he has under-achieved at the US Open, I say this because he has lost to players that he would be expected to have beaten. Sure he did well in 2008 and no disgrace at all in losing to Federer in the final.

A debate about him or any other player being injured is pointless, none of us will ever know to what extent an injury has troubled a player. I am sure any injury hurts more when they are losing though...

My original post on the subject was;
by Guest82 Yesterday at 9:34 pm


So according to this poll more people think Murray will win the US Open than Djokovic?

How strange.
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Post by CaledonianCraig Sun Aug 07, 2011 3:08 pm

So Murray cannot use an injury as an excuse but other top players can ie Federer, Nadal, Djokovic, del Potro etc. (By the way he missed six weeks of the season after that wrist injury so clearly it affected him enough to lose a match which he did in straight sets)

As for poll by your own admission Murray is one of the best players in the world so is it really a massively surprising result (poll isn't closed yet either). I'd understand you being mystified if Andy Murray was ranked outside the top ten and never reached slam finals before but that isn't the case.
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Post by Guest82 Sun Aug 07, 2011 4:22 pm

No, I've not stated that anyone has ever lost due to being injured or otherwise. It does play a part, but it's amazing how often ALL players seem to develop an injury in a match they are losing.

I am massively shocked he is considered a bigger favourite than Djokovic, who, in my opinion, should be the clear favourite. This is also reflected by the bookies so it appears I am not alone is this.

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Post by socal1976 Sun Aug 07, 2011 4:55 pm

I have to agree with Guest, not that murray shouldn't be considered I don't think that is what he is saying. I think it is just matter of how he ended up topping Nadal, Federer, and Djoko as the most favored in the poll. The result is a bit skewed, but it should be taken with the knowledge that it has more to do with the location of murray's fansite than with Murray actually being the big favorite to win.

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Post by Danny_1982 Sun Aug 07, 2011 10:48 pm

Nobody is saying they think Murray is perceived as the clear favourite... They are just stating who they personally think will win title. Yes, some of those opinions may be linked to the fact he is a Brit, like a lot of people on here.

If the poll was "who is the favourite?" rather than "who do you think will win?" then it would be quite a boring poll, as it would be 100% Djokovic.

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Post by legendkillar Mon Aug 08, 2011 8:26 am

Hmmmm ok so if the people with a problem with Murray's recent performances at the US think it should discredit him from being a favourite, then by that logic Federer should be favourite having won it 5 times????

Get a grip people. If people want to vote Murray as their favourite to win, they can, same with Djokovic fans.

So by this logic I make Federer favourite.

Now I am waiting for the 'I mean Djokovic this season' bandwagon chant laughing

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Post by Jeremy_Kyle Mon Aug 08, 2011 9:20 am

legendkillar wrote:
Get a grip people. If people want to vote Murray as their favourite to win, they can, same with Djokovic fans.

So by this logic I make Federer favourite.

clap I think picking Fed to win this USO is a fair choice: Djokovic is unlikely to continue at his outstanding level without a minimal drop in form, and even during this year he never showed a clear upper hand on Fed. Nadal is not playing at the same level of last year and never got on well with the amercan fast court. Murray and Del Potro are two outsiders, I actually think should Delpo land in a SF he would fancy is chances,
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Post by luciusmann Mon Aug 08, 2011 3:04 pm

I agree JK, I been saying that Fed looks good for the USO too, his record is better @ the USO than at Wimbledon in many respects, especially in the last few years. As you say, the matches between him & Djokovic do feel and are closer than the Nadal/Djokovic matches and this is born out by the fact Fed is the only guy who has beaten Djokovic this year.

What I will be intrigued by is which side of the draw Federer is put on, will it be on Nadal or Djokovic's? Regardless, if Federer should meet Djokovic, I think it will be a tight match but interestingly, even when Djokovic beat Federer, it went all the way to 5 sets and Fed also had match points, he let it slip away more than anything else. When Federer has won in the USO matches against Djokovic, it's been wins in 3 or 4 sets, tight sets, but a lot easier than winning in 5. For these reasons, even though Djokovic is a different player, I can see him losing to Federer @ the USO (can't see him losing to anyone else @ the mo & Fed is the only one so far who has beaten him), Fed's just got to make sure he gets to the point of meeting him and given his USO record, I think he will, the two have met in the last 4 USO seasons, probably a good chance and definitely will be the best match of the finals @ the USO, like last year.

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Post by socal1976 Mon Aug 08, 2011 6:08 pm

I don't know lucius I could see Djoko losing to Fed or Murray at the USO but not Nadal. Fed does have a good chance at this tournament, but I think Andy on his day on hardcourt could knock Novak out as well. Interestingly, I don't have the same fear of Novak playing Nadal at the USO. I wouldn't draw too many conclusions from 2010 USO semi or 2011 RG semi. Its more of an issue of Roger's variety and his serve giving him more options to combat Novak and get him out of the comfort zone without having to out hit him from the baseline constantly.

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Post by luciusmann Mon Aug 08, 2011 6:25 pm

I'm drawing on Fed's overall record against Djokovic @ the USO rather than just those two matches. I agree, I don't think a Djokovic/Nadal line up would be anything other than a Djokovic walk over! Shocking to say, but given what we seen this year, the most likely outcome between these two should they meet. I'll be interested to see where Murray goes....the question is, can he keep it together over the course of a match, he's got the talent to beat those ranked above him....as his first set against Nadal @ Wimbledon shows but can he sustain it? That's where my question marks remain. This week's tournament is the perfect test for him in many ways! I reckon he'll lose it but we'll see...

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Post by Danny_1982 Mon Aug 08, 2011 7:20 pm

It's a funny one with Murray, a couple of years ago he seemed to beat Federer, Nadal and Djokovic most of the time he met them in (certainly in masters) but got knocked out of slams before meeting them most of the time, against players you would really expect him - at his best - to beat (Roddick, Cilic, Wawrinka, Verdasco)...

Now, he seems to have mastered beating players to get him to the latter stages, but is not beating the top guys without anything like the same regularity. He's lost to Djoko twice in a row, and Nadal 4 times in a row.

So we know he can beat the top players, he's done it many times... We know he can make his way through to the latter stages of slams, he's done it many times.... He just needs to put it together.

It's not a question of ability, it's a question of belief...

New York is my favourite slam, and I think it'll be the best one of the year as Murray and Del Potro really can match the top 3 on a hard court, unlike the other surfaces.

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Post by sportslover Mon Aug 08, 2011 8:23 pm

Danny_1982 wrote:It's a funny one with Murray, a couple of years ago he seemed to beat Federer, Nadal and Djokovic most of the time he met them in (certainly in masters) but got knocked out of slams before meeting them most of the time, against players you would really expect him - at his best - to beat (Roddick, Cilic, Wawrinka, Verdasco)...

Now, he seems to have mastered beating players to get him to the latter stages, but is not beating the top guys without anything like the same regularity. He's lost to Djoko twice in a row, and Nadal 4 times in a row.

So we know he can beat the top players, he's done it many times... We know he can make his way through to the latter stages of slams, he's done it many times.... He just needs to put it together.

It's not a question of ability, it's a question of belief...

New York is my favourite slam, and I think it'll be the best one of the year as Murray and Del Potro really can match the top 3 on a hard court, unlike the other surfaces.

Couldn't have put it better Danny.

USO is probably his best chance for his first slam, however he will have to get past some of the top three to achieve it, and avoid any " banana skins" en route, as for belief he now has Cahill & Co their to help him!

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Post by CaledonianCraig Mon Aug 08, 2011 8:55 pm

I would say Andy's best chance is the Australian Open as he has been finalist there twice now.
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Post by socal1976 Mon Aug 08, 2011 9:40 pm

Good analysis Danny, I definetly concur. I think Murray just needs to put it together and have the belief against the top guys. Because in every grandslam there is going to be a point when you are playing a tough opponent and your back is against the wall, and Andy has to find away to believe he will be the guy that wins it. I like his chances at New york, but I would still rank him behind Djoko and Fed in terms of favorites. Probably, would rank him tied for #3 in terms of being a favorite. Although again I would draw too many conclusions from his victories against Novak 18 months ago. Andy and Novak is an interesting rivalry in that initially Novak completely dominated their first 4 meetings. Then Novak had the lengthy problems with his serve and during that period of time, Andy wins 3 straight against a basically serveless Djokovic. And now that Novak has his serve and fitness in line he has beaten Andy twice in a row. That being said I wouldn't be stunned if Andy won in NY and beat Djoko in the process as Rome was a match that could have gone either way this year between the two.

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Post by sirfredperry Tue Aug 09, 2011 12:33 pm

Djoko has to be favourite, then Fed, then Nadal then Murray. Del Potty needs to get his ranking higher to avoid getting 3rd and 4th round defeats against the big boys. Once he does then he'll be back in grand slam contention again as I don't think, yet, he's playing well enough to knock out a top four player.

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Post by Danny_1982 Tue Aug 09, 2011 4:39 pm

I read that Murray has completely changed his diet since the grass season. It will be interesting to see later on what other changes he has implemented. He has had 5 or so weeks with his new coaching set up, so I wonder what areas of his game he's been working on, and if there will be any technical changes, possibly his serve in an effort to get a higher first serve percentage.


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Post by Guest Tue Aug 09, 2011 10:41 pm

Murray just lost 6-3 6-1 to World No 35 Kevin Anderson at the Canadian Masters. It was quite a poor defence from the defending champion - losing in his first match.

""I just felt very slow, the game seemed to be going so fast," Murray said.
Murray, ranked number four in the world, served five double faults and looked sluggish in comparison to Anderson, who never allowed Murray to settle.
"I've trained really hard to get ready for the tournament. I've always played very well here," said Murray, who has won the last two Canadian Masters titles. "I couldn't get anything going. I started both sets really, really badly which doesn't help against someone that serves like Kevin."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/14423509.stm


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