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Announcement regarding the site
First topic message reminder :
As you can all see, 606v2 is growing day by day. And for that, we have you all to thank.
The effort and dedication that you have all put in to help this site grow has been nothing short of phenomenal. Every day I am surprised at how you all contribute in making this forum such a great place for us all to carry on the community spirit that was born on 606. And that is only part of the story. I can now see how we have outgrown our beginnings and are attracting new posters from outside our original home.
And I thank all of the new members for this too. Your continued contribution has helped us continue to flourish and become so much more than the original 606. Through the hard work of the moderation and admin teams, we have managed to get some incredible exclusives that were not possible under the BBC banner - interviews, competitions, special offers. These will continue to come and will get bigger and better the more the forum grows.
However, all of this has come at a price.
The original set up of this forum was facilitated by the use of free software. At the time of inception, this was the best and most cost effective solution for us all. And hopefully, you all really like the features of the forum. However, due to the incredible growth in our forum, the costs for housing us have risen dramatically (it’s now 10x what it started at). The owners of the software (forumotion) have to give us more server space, although they benefit from the fact that we generate more advert revenue for them.
The more hits the site gets, the more the forumotion gets from the ads. And it therefore costs us substantially more to remove them (to recompense them for their lost revenue). On top of this, forumotion also charge us more to retain the domain name. All in all, the costs have become much more than we had anticipated, and should the forum continue to grow as we plan, these costs will continue to grow too. So this leaves us with several choices.
1. We continue to pay for the ad removal out of our own pocket.
2. We leave the forumotion ads in place.
3. We introduce ads of our own.
4. We move to a new forum platform
So let me cover these off one by one.
1. The costs are now so great, it is not fair to ask the moderation and admin teams to continue to pay for these ever increasing costs. It’s not fair to ask members to contribute. The moderation and admin teams already give up their time for nothing and to ask them to pay to do this is unfair. For the founders, this is simply not an option.
2. We can leave the adverts in place and pay the domain cost from member contributions once a year.
3. The revenue generated by our own ads will pay for the domain name and removal of forumotion ads.
4. If we move to a new platform, we would lose the historical posts, the name (possibly) and a chunk of our membership possibly. We would also be faced with the same problem as now when we once again get to a certain size. It is merely delaying the problem unless we build our own software. This would cost us money to develop and we would still need to host any bespoke software.
So this means that the only viable option is to go with option 3 - the introduction of adverts that will pay for the domain name and removal of forumotion ads (so hopefully no misleading ‘you have 1 new message’ type). Any excess could potentially be used to advertise the site, as well as potentially paying for our own software to be developed.
So you will shortly be seeing adverts on the site. This is not being done through choice but as a means to better the forum and take away the burden from the members.
Hopefully you will continue to use 606v2 - we have some exciting developments ahead of us. We still aim to achieve our goal of being the best multisport forum in the UK (and beyond) and the addition of adverts will allow us to get there more quickly.
I would just like to finish with a final thank you. When I started this forum, I honestly thought it would be a nice little home for my friends I had made. But due to the work that you have all put in, I can now safely say that it has exceeded all my expectations. From thinking I would keep in contact with a dozen or so friends, I have nearly 3000. So I may not be the next Mark Zuckenberg but I can tell you that I consider you all to be my friends.
Hero
As you can all see, 606v2 is growing day by day. And for that, we have you all to thank.
The effort and dedication that you have all put in to help this site grow has been nothing short of phenomenal. Every day I am surprised at how you all contribute in making this forum such a great place for us all to carry on the community spirit that was born on 606. And that is only part of the story. I can now see how we have outgrown our beginnings and are attracting new posters from outside our original home.
And I thank all of the new members for this too. Your continued contribution has helped us continue to flourish and become so much more than the original 606. Through the hard work of the moderation and admin teams, we have managed to get some incredible exclusives that were not possible under the BBC banner - interviews, competitions, special offers. These will continue to come and will get bigger and better the more the forum grows.
However, all of this has come at a price.
The original set up of this forum was facilitated by the use of free software. At the time of inception, this was the best and most cost effective solution for us all. And hopefully, you all really like the features of the forum. However, due to the incredible growth in our forum, the costs for housing us have risen dramatically (it’s now 10x what it started at). The owners of the software (forumotion) have to give us more server space, although they benefit from the fact that we generate more advert revenue for them.
The more hits the site gets, the more the forumotion gets from the ads. And it therefore costs us substantially more to remove them (to recompense them for their lost revenue). On top of this, forumotion also charge us more to retain the domain name. All in all, the costs have become much more than we had anticipated, and should the forum continue to grow as we plan, these costs will continue to grow too. So this leaves us with several choices.
1. We continue to pay for the ad removal out of our own pocket.
2. We leave the forumotion ads in place.
3. We introduce ads of our own.
4. We move to a new forum platform
So let me cover these off one by one.
1. The costs are now so great, it is not fair to ask the moderation and admin teams to continue to pay for these ever increasing costs. It’s not fair to ask members to contribute. The moderation and admin teams already give up their time for nothing and to ask them to pay to do this is unfair. For the founders, this is simply not an option.
2. We can leave the adverts in place and pay the domain cost from member contributions once a year.
3. The revenue generated by our own ads will pay for the domain name and removal of forumotion ads.
4. If we move to a new platform, we would lose the historical posts, the name (possibly) and a chunk of our membership possibly. We would also be faced with the same problem as now when we once again get to a certain size. It is merely delaying the problem unless we build our own software. This would cost us money to develop and we would still need to host any bespoke software.
So this means that the only viable option is to go with option 3 - the introduction of adverts that will pay for the domain name and removal of forumotion ads (so hopefully no misleading ‘you have 1 new message’ type). Any excess could potentially be used to advertise the site, as well as potentially paying for our own software to be developed.
So you will shortly be seeing adverts on the site. This is not being done through choice but as a means to better the forum and take away the burden from the members.
Hopefully you will continue to use 606v2 - we have some exciting developments ahead of us. We still aim to achieve our goal of being the best multisport forum in the UK (and beyond) and the addition of adverts will allow us to get there more quickly.
I would just like to finish with a final thank you. When I started this forum, I honestly thought it would be a nice little home for my friends I had made. But due to the work that you have all put in, I can now safely say that it has exceeded all my expectations. From thinking I would keep in contact with a dozen or so friends, I have nearly 3000. So I may not be the next Mark Zuckenberg but I can tell you that I consider you all to be my friends.
Hero
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King Beer wrote:Scottrf wrote:The irony of criticising boxers for taking steroids.
I irony of denouncing a 'sport' when the biggest draw in your 'sport' headlined the biggest event in our 'sport'.
Also, notable stars of our 'sport' have led notable stars of your 'sport' to the ring.
Wrestling is still not a sport putting it in inverted commas does not make it such.
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So boxing isn't a sport because a boxer appeared on a TV show?King Beer wrote:Scottrf wrote:The irony of criticising boxers for taking steroids.
I irony of denouncing a 'sport' when the biggest draw in your 'sport' headlined the biggest event in our 'sport'.
Also, notable stars of our 'sport' have led notable stars of your 'sport' to the ring.
Your logic isn't great.
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Fellas let's not turn it into a my entertainment is better than your sport debate.
We all want what's best for this forum, from boxing fans to wrestling fans, even the one guy who's posted about badminton and no-one is going anywhere (unless you misbehave and then I'll quickly show you the door )
We all want what's best for this forum, from boxing fans to wrestling fans, even the one guy who's posted about badminton and no-one is going anywhere (unless you misbehave and then I'll quickly show you the door )
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rowley wrote:King Beer wrote:Scottrf wrote:The irony of criticising boxers for taking steroids.
I irony of denouncing a 'sport' when the biggest draw in your 'sport' headlined the biggest event in our 'sport'.
Also, notable stars of our 'sport' have led notable stars of your 'sport' to the ring.
Wrestling is still not a sport putting it in inverted commas does not make it such.
I beg to differ....
Wrestling; as performed in the Olympics IS a sport.
Professional Wrestling, is not. it's 'Sports Entertainment'.
As Demon mentioned, if it's that much of an issue, give Rupert Murdoch a call and tell him to take it off Sky SPORTS.
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if it's sport entertainment wouldn't that still be a sport?
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Hero wrote:Fellas let's not turn it into a my entertainment is better than your sport debate.
We all want what's best for this forum, from boxing fans to wrestling fans, even the one guy who's posted about badminton and no-one is going anywhere (unless you misbehave and then I'll quickly show you the door )
Sod them. Bunch of nuthuggers.
Wrestling > Boxing.
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King Beer wrote:rowley wrote:King Beer wrote:Scottrf wrote:The irony of criticising boxers for taking steroids.
I irony of denouncing a 'sport' when the biggest draw in your 'sport' headlined the biggest event in our 'sport'.
Also, notable stars of our 'sport' have led notable stars of your 'sport' to the ring.
Wrestling is still not a sport putting it in inverted commas does not make it such.
I beg to differ....
Wrestling; as performed in the Olympics IS a sport.
Professional Wrestling, is not. it's 'Sports Entertainment'.
As Demon mentioned, if it's that much of an issue, give Rupert Murdoch a call and tell him to take it off Sky SPORTS.
Is much Greco Roman discussed on here then? Anyway out of respect for Hero will not pursue this further.
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Sport without a competitive aspect? No.fernando wrote:if it's sport entertainment wouldn't that still be a sport?
I think sports entertainment is a generous title.
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how did this article turn in to this? it has noting to do with the purpose of it?
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Scottrf wrote:Sport without a competitive aspect? No.fernando wrote:if it's sport entertainment wouldn't that still be a sport?
What do you call an Audley Harrison fight then?
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TheBrahmaBull wrote:how did this article turn in to this? it has noting to do with the purpose of it?
Some people are just a bit small minded, Bull.
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An Audley Harrison fight.fernando wrote:Scottrf wrote:Sport without a competitive aspect? No.fernando wrote:if it's sport entertainment wouldn't that still be a sport?
What do you call an Audley Harrison fight then?
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Thanks for your opinion on what constitutes a sport.
But unless you're Lord Coe or someone of equal stature, please forgive me if I don't allow it to sway my own judgement
But unless you're Lord Coe or someone of equal stature, please forgive me if I don't allow it to sway my own judgement
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Wrestling is for gays.
Hobo - Nearly Homo
Hero - Not quite Hetero
King Beer - Rhymes with 'king Queer
Draw your own conclusions.
Hobo - Nearly Homo
Hero - Not quite Hetero
King Beer - Rhymes with 'king Queer
Draw your own conclusions.
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Scottrf wrote:An Audley Harrison fight.fernando wrote:Scottrf wrote:Sport without a competitive aspect? No.fernando wrote:if it's sport entertainment wouldn't that still be a sport?
What do you call an Audley Harrison fight then?
I thought it was called gang Cuddle in a bad way?
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Is Daniel Craig a sportsman?Electric Demon wrote:Thanks for your opinion on what constitutes a sport.
But unless you're Lord Coe or someone of equal stature, please forgive me if I don't allow it to sway my own judgement
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Whilst this little passage made me chuckle, let's give it a rest now, fellas, hardly on topic!
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can we all not respect each other and move on ?
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OK.TheBrahmaBull wrote:can we all not respect each other and move on ?
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TheBrahmaBull wrote:can we all not respect each other and move on ?
Oh look, Helen Lovejoy!
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Won't somebody please think of the children?King Beer wrote:TheBrahmaBull wrote:can we all not respect each other and move on ?
Oh look, Helen Lovejoy!
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Do whatever you have to do to keep this place going, its the best.
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A-Darts wrote:Do whatever you have to do to keep this place going, its the best.
Donate! It's the only way to save 606v2!
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im just trying to help and you mock me?
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TheBrahmaBull wrote:im just trying to help and you mock me?
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I think if it's just a banner ad at the top of the page, then it will be fine, we'll soon get used to it.
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rowley wrote:King Beer wrote:rowley wrote:I made no reference to its popularlity or otherwise, just suggested it wasn't a sport, a position I maintain to be absolutely correct.
It's sports entertainment, and furthermore, is not classed in with 'proper' sports. Hence it's own section. Out of the way of those who don't approve.
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A thousand apologies but this led me to believe this was a sports fourm, I was clearly mistaken.
Yeah, that would be why there are books, music and TV/Film sections...becuase this is a "purely sports" forum.
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Fists of Fury wrote:Whilst this little passage made me chuckle, let's give it a rest now, fellas, hardly on topic!
I agree, who started all this anyway, kick him off, clearly just a trouble causer.
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at least some one agrees with me
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TheBrahmaBull wrote:at least some one agrees with me
Who did?
BAN THEM!
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it would be the 1st person who started the wrestling vs boxing argument......
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KB? im just trying to help keep things on topic why are you rebelling
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Hobo,
At the expense of being charged as being a Dragon, I'm finding this difficult to follow.
How much money would it take to
a) Get the RWC
b) The subsequent 12 months
How many regular punters does v2 have?
Is the objective of v2 to be profit-making or self-funding (and if so how are the officers going to be remunerated?
Talking all around the issue doesn't help. If you want people to sign up to the concept, you'd best present your evolving business model.
At the expense of being charged as being a Dragon, I'm finding this difficult to follow.
How much money would it take to
a) Get the RWC
b) The subsequent 12 months
How many regular punters does v2 have?
Is the objective of v2 to be profit-making or self-funding (and if so how are the officers going to be remunerated?
Talking all around the issue doesn't help. If you want people to sign up to the concept, you'd best present your evolving business model.
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fernando wrote:it would be the 1st person who started the wrestling vs boxing argument......
Hobo?
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How can boxing be taken seriously when they all have big red hands.
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Cymroglan wrote:How can boxing be taken seriously when they all have big red hands.
Class.
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Cymroglan wrote:How can boxing be taken seriously when they all have big red hands.
That's because they tend not to have sex for a few weeks before fights, go without for a few weeks I'm getting plenty of us would have red hands
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Wrestlers don't have sex for years.
With women anyway.
With women anyway.
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You haven't heard of kelly kelly then have you scott. she's had a go on 99% of the locker room
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Scottrf wrote:Wrestlers don't have sex for years.
With women anyway.
Google '1 Night in Chyna' and come back to me.
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Good looking bloke Chyna is.King Beer wrote:Scottrf wrote:Wrestlers don't have sex for years.
With women anyway.
Google '1 Night in Chyna' and come back to me.
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[quote="King Beer"]
Google '1 Night in Chyna' and come back to me.[/quote
Been there, done that
Scottrf wrote:Wrestlers don't have sex for years.
With women anyway.
Google '1 Night in Chyna' and come back to me.[/quote
Been there, done that
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Scottrf wrote:Good looking bloke Chyna is.King Beer wrote:Scottrf wrote:Wrestlers don't have sex for years.
With women anyway.
Google '1 Night in Chyna' and come back to me.
You've watched it haven't you...... sick man.
Ok, redeem yourself. Google 'Catalina White'. She's dynamite.
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You wrestling chaps aren't so bad.
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PLEASE can we stick to topic - there are still some important points to be made here
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thats what ive been trying to say Davie
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