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Post by Pound-for-Pound Mon Sep 05, 2011 1:13 pm

copied from Boxrec.com

Birmingham's former world amateur champion Frankie Gavin has split with his Manchester trainer Anthony 'Arnie' Farnell.

Gavin posted on Facebook, "I am not with arnie no more deb I owe him a lot he put a lot of effort into mean an I learnt loads but was becoming unhappy up manchester personal reasons an what not, I am gonna move to London got something sorted for my next fight in oct x"

A lot was expected of Gavin in the pro ranks and he's yet to fulfil that promise, with rumours of him leading a lifestyle that doesn't reflect the ultimate dedication needed to reach the highest level of achievement.

This has culminated in to two relatively unimpressive back-to-back performances - a clear but uninspiring points win against Young Mutley and a very narrow, hard fought points win against fellow BoxRec poster Curtis Woodhouse.

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Post by The Galveston Giant Mon Sep 05, 2011 1:15 pm

Good move, he needs a new trainer and get himself sorted, not sure who though.
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Post by Pound-for-Pound Mon Sep 05, 2011 1:18 pm

He must already have a new trainer lined up if he's split with his trainer a month before a fight. Anyone know who the top trainers in London are?

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Post by Scottrf Mon Sep 05, 2011 1:22 pm

Jimmy Tibbs or Jim McDonnell maybe?

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Post by Rowley Mon Sep 05, 2011 1:23 pm

This annoys me a bit, young kid doesn't show the commitment to the sport that is necessary and doesn't get himself down to his optimum weight and so his trainer gets the bullet. Farnell or any trainer can only do so much, if he is putting work in in the gym only to then go out and shovel 8 pints down his neck not too much a trainer can do to stop that.

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Post by Steffan Mon Sep 05, 2011 1:23 pm

Adam Booth even?

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Post by Scottrf Mon Sep 05, 2011 1:24 pm

Tibbs apparently.

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Post by Pound-for-Pound Mon Sep 05, 2011 1:26 pm

Mcdonnell would get him in great shape but i'd rather he joined a trainer who would sharpen his technique also.

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Post by Valero's Conscience Mon Sep 05, 2011 1:38 pm

Not sure whether it's good or bad.

If Gavin dropped his trainer with the sole purpose to join somewhere to further his career then fair enough but if it's partly down to arguments over Gavin's commitment and recent troubles then Gavin should have stayed.

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Post by Scottrf Mon Sep 05, 2011 1:39 pm

Valero's Conscience wrote:Not sure whether it's good or bad.

If Gavin dropped his trainer with the sole purpose to join somewhere to further his career then fair enough but if it's partly down to arguments over Gavin's commitment and recent troubles then Gavin should have stayed.
GF problems I think. Not sure why that makes you want to leave the city though.

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Post by Soldier_Of_Fortune Mon Sep 05, 2011 1:53 pm

He needs to sort out his conditioning and campaign at Light Welter.

Is Tibbs Mitchells trainer?

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Post by Scottrf Mon Sep 05, 2011 1:54 pm

Yep.

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Post by Valero's Conscience Mon Sep 05, 2011 1:57 pm

Scottrf wrote:
Valero's Conscience wrote:Not sure whether it's good or bad.

If Gavin dropped his trainer with the sole purpose to join somewhere to further his career then fair enough but if it's partly down to arguments over Gavin's commitment and recent troubles then Gavin should have stayed.
GF problems I think. Not sure why that makes you want to leave the city though.

Cheers Scott,

Hope he doesn't become Britain's biggest wasted talent. Sad

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Post by Soldier_Of_Fortune Mon Sep 05, 2011 1:58 pm

I think Gavin could do with some Roach type training and bring in a conditioning coach.

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Post by Soldier_Of_Fortune Mon Sep 05, 2011 1:58 pm

I think Gavin could do with some Roach type training and bring in a conditioning coach.

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Post by Scottrf Mon Sep 05, 2011 1:59 pm

Can he afford Roach/Ariza?

Plus I'm not sure Roach has the time. I doubt most of the guys 'trained by Roach' actually are. Although the sparring and change of scenery in the US may suit.

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Post by Soldier_Of_Fortune Mon Sep 05, 2011 2:08 pm

Scottrf wrote:Can he afford Roach/Ariza?

Plus I'm not sure Roach has the time. I doubt most of the guys 'trained by Roach' actually are. Although the sparring and change of scenery in the US may suit.

It would be on Warren to front it, if he has enough faith. He certainly has the talent.

I didnt necessarily mean Roach but he could do with a complete change of scenery and approach to boxing.

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Post by Lumbering_Jack Mon Sep 05, 2011 2:26 pm

I personally dont like him. He is fat and lazy, everything I hate in a person.

Trainers often get the blame for things outside their control, Gavin in this instance is blaming him for his bone idle attitute.

As for the GF issues, he needs to man up, wuss......

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Post by captain carrantuohil Mon Sep 05, 2011 2:37 pm

He's fast becoming a pain in the backside, I'm afraid. Seems to feel that his talent alone affords him the God-given right to win fights, tell the world how marvellous he is, skip training, overeat and behave with disloyalty.

This attitude is not new; we have had the same indiscipline since his amateur days, and he needs to shape up mentally and physically or find another profession. As a wise man said many years ago: "I thought that he was a man of promise; unfortunately, it seems that he is a man of promises."

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Mon Sep 05, 2011 2:38 pm

Think the Captain has hit the nail on the head...

Although I'll chuck in that I've always thought he was the second best of the three some way behing Degale.

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Post by Scottrf Mon Sep 05, 2011 2:39 pm

What three?

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Mon Sep 05, 2011 2:40 pm

Olympians..

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Post by Pound-for-Pound Mon Sep 05, 2011 2:40 pm

I always forget about Saunders. Does he have anything planned?

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Post by Scottrf Mon Sep 05, 2011 2:41 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Olympians..
Degale, Price, Bradley Saunders, Billy Joe Saunders, Jeffries. Gavin didn't even compete.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Mon Sep 05, 2011 2:52 pm

You're being pedantic..pound for pound was intelligent enough to understand..

No doubt he's a liberal too..

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Post by Pound-for-Pound Mon Sep 05, 2011 3:00 pm

I always forget Jeffries was an Olympian too. Is it just me or has he got worse since his pro debut? I remember finding him the most impressive of all of the amateurs who had just entered the pro ranks.

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Post by Scottrf Mon Sep 05, 2011 3:00 pm

How is that pedantic? I wanted to know which of the others you thought he was better than.

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Post by pauline1981 Mon Sep 05, 2011 3:02 pm

gavin try flowers he might give it another go

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Post by Guest Mon Sep 05, 2011 4:58 pm

If Gavin had half the desire of Jeffries or Jeffries had the ability of Gavin, you'd have a decent fighter on your hands. Jeffries stank the place out recently and took it upon himself to go to America and get himself some better quality training a sparring. Took himself away from his wife and kids in order to try and make it work for him. Hard to say how it's worked given he's be out injured for a while but at least Tony wants to put the work in. Gavin has grown far too big for his boots since BEFORE the Olympics when tipped for big things but then failed to make the weight.

What other waste of space would be given the same opportunity? He should count his blessings that Warren is still interested!

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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Mon Sep 05, 2011 9:24 pm

Strange move he was in boxing news a couple of weeks ago and then boxing monthly saying Farnell wasn't the problem it was him. Changing trainers won't do much unless he sorts his attitude out.
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Post by mikeymax71 Wed Sep 07, 2011 10:48 am

From watching their pro debuts, I thought Gavin was the better fighter by far of all the fromer amateur/Olympic fighters. He threw quality combos from head to body and was deliberate calculating and did not waste a shot.

However, after the first year he has stagnated and think, realistically going to the States would be goos thing. He will not have all the distractions there and also get better quality sparring. I think he can not attach himself to Roach then Steward or the Mayweathers would be choices as think they could help improve his natural boxing style.

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