Semi Final Day - 10/09 Day 12
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Semi Final Day - 10/09 Day 12
First topic message reminder :
Here it is guys.
Straight shootout
Federer v Djokovic
Murray v Nadal
Here it is guys.
Straight shootout
Federer v Djokovic
Murray v Nadal
legendkillar- Posts : 5253
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superochog each player has their traits etc and some are more damaging to them than others. I mean looking at Rafa with his bottle arrangements and picking at his shorts but Andy's are more damaging. Like I have said before he not only faces a battle with his opponents he also battles with his mind for long spells and it doesn't help his cause.
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Murray is a decent bride's maid. He lacks the x factor that players like Nadal, Djokovic and peak Federer have/had.
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BREAK OF SERRRVVEEEEEE.........
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No doubting Andy has the talent it is the mental side of his game that lets him down. His slam record proves he has the talent with all these slam semis and finals but mentally he lets himself down. That is his achilles heel - no doubt.
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Murray breaks and that was a great point.
Simple_Analyst- Posts : 1386
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I have been away from 4/2 Djoko 3rd set and am now back at 2 sets to love Nadal.
Looks like everything went wrong while I was away. Well done to Djoko but producing genius tennis for 3 sets in this era is a tall order.
Nada ldoesn't stand a chance versus Djoko. 3 sets one way traffic.
Looks like everything went wrong while I was away. Well done to Djoko but producing genius tennis for 3 sets in this era is a tall order.
Nada ldoesn't stand a chance versus Djoko. 3 sets one way traffic.
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Simple_Analyst wrote:gallery play wrote:After all these years i still can't believe how friggin ugly Nadal's game is. It's unwatchable for me.
Goodnight
Sleep well. Hold tight to the Feddy Teddy!
icecold- Posts : 104
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Nadal's defense was absolutely ridiculous in that long rally.
droogle- Posts : 349
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Not sure Tenez. He will definitely need to approach the match differently as Djokovic has the Indian sign over him of late.
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Tenez wrote:Well done to Djoko but producing genius tennis for 3 sets in this era is a tall order.
And you need to produce genius tennis for three sets to get past geniuses like Nadal and Djokovic. That is how good the top two are.
icecold- Posts : 104
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Only way Murray will win a slam is if Nadal, Djokovic and Federer all get injured or knocked out early.
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He'll still be playing against himself.
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Only one way to describe Murray's performance: limp.
I used that to describe Fed's performance vs Tsonga but @ least Fed was capable of taking that to 5 sets, Murray can't even take this to 4. I thought hard court was his supposed favourite surface? He did better on grass.
I'm still hoping Murray can provide some sort of challenge and he is 30 - 15 on Nadal's serve so he's got a chance....
I used that to describe Fed's performance vs Tsonga but @ least Fed was capable of taking that to 5 sets, Murray can't even take this to 4. I thought hard court was his supposed favourite surface? He did better on grass.
I'm still hoping Murray can provide some sort of challenge and he is 30 - 15 on Nadal's serve so he's got a chance....
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I hope Murray can take this break point, he won't get many more opportunities to get them!
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luciusmann wrote:Only one way to describe Murray's performance: limp.
I used that to describe Fed's performance vs Tsonga but @ least Fed was capable of taking that to 5 sets, Murray can't even take this to 4. I thought hard court was his supposed favourite surface? He did better on grass.
I'm still hoping Murray can provide some sort of challenge and he is 30 - 15 on Nadal's serve so he's got a chance....
Murray's forehand is a liability and Rafa is simply do good from the back of the court.
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We Are Number 1!!! wrote:Only way Murray will win a slam is if Nadal, Djokovic and Federer all get injured or knocked out early.
Wow, what intellect. You managed to mention X-Factor on a tennis thread.
What an rtard
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That was some fantastic BH. If he maintains that type of length we could have a match.
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LOL. Yes difficult to find an uglier game. Moonballing at his best.gallery play wrote:After all these years i still can't believe how friggin ugly Nadal's game is. It's unwatchable for me.
Goodnight
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This match doesn't compare in anyway with the previous match, so below par in comparison. Just like @ the Wimbledon semis this year.
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Murray with a whiff here.
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Until he swung his racquet
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My prediction is still on so long as Murray wins no more games. I'd say the odds are reasonable.
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Oh Andy.... I had a feeling where this was going when he starting complaining and being all negative at 2-2 in the first set!!
You could argue that unforced errors or him not executing on break points has cost him, but i think he's talked himself out of this.
I'm hoping he can take this set for entertainments sake, and for his own belief... But come back from 2-0 against Nadal when he's being so negative? I'm his biggest fan but i'm not going to delude myself that it might happen.
You could argue that unforced errors or him not executing on break points has cost him, but i think he's talked himself out of this.
I'm hoping he can take this set for entertainments sake, and for his own belief... But come back from 2-0 against Nadal when he's being so negative? I'm his biggest fan but i'm not going to delude myself that it might happen.
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Andy flatten the F***ing ball out!! You had ample chances in that rally
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How many net chords in a match does Nadal need? I mean seriously.
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Nadal's BH is working. Danger. Murray holds.
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Nadal seems to be evolving his backhand as the match goes on. Monstrous hitting.
Prediction gone.
Prediction gone.
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No Danny not when he isn't mentally tuned in. Been better in this set mind but I have felt he has been in far better form going into his previous slam semis. I mean here he had shaky showings against Haase and patchy against Isner and workmanlike and no more against Devarman and Young that is why I wasn't so hopeful for this one.
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True Craig. I still expected a lot more from him tonight though.
What do you think has cost Andy today?
What do you think he could/should have done better?
What do you think has cost Andy today?
What do you think he could/should have done better?
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I think Andy needs a military style regime for about 6 months. No mommy, no gf, far away somewhere training with pros, work on his nerves and discipline. I think his game is much better and varied than Djokos or Nadals, but for crying out loud control the emotins. I really want him to win a few GS but the way he behaves looks like he's in tennis just for the money and not for the game.
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I wasn't able to watch any of the Wimbledon semi between Murray & Nadal but judging by this, how did Murray even win a set off Nadal? Nadal is all over Murray, this third set is bit better but the first two have been naff.
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First serve hasn't been great, mentally he hasn't been great and hasn't played his crucial break points too good. I don't want to take anything away from Rafa as he has been superb though.
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luciusmann wrote:I wasn't able to watch any of the Wimbledon semi between Murray & Nadal but judging by this, how did Murray even win a set off Nadal? Nadal is all over Murray, this third set is bit better but the first two have been naff.
Simply he played a lot better.
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There seems to be this misconception that Djokovic can beat Nadal on this form. All I can say is good bloody luck, because given the way he has played through the tournament, he has more chance than I do crapping in the queens handbag!
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Finally, Murray does something decent! He wins the break!
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Murray breaks to go 5-3 up. Is their hope yet? Simply must hold here.
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Murray still in this; if he can get this set it will get very interesting. He looks the fitter player out there.
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Danny_1982 wrote:come back from 2-0 against Nadal when he's being so negative? I'm his biggest fan but i'm not going to delude myself that it might happen.
Yes!!! Come on Andy. I never doubted you!!!
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Not sure how Murray's gotten a break. Nadal is playing. . er, non-human tennis. He looks like he could play a game of tennis and football simultaneously and win both.
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Rafa has been immense. Improved match-by-match in this tournament and his big challenge against Djokovic will be mentally trying to forget his previous most recent encounters with Novak.
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Andy taking the ball on. Loving this. I am sure the doubters aren't!
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That was some return from Nadal. Why doesn't he just F**k off!
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LK, should Nadal reach the final, I think it won't be a str8 forward win for Djokovic but I still think he will win but in 5 tough sets.
That win over Fed for Djokovic is a big, big booster, Fed played very well and still lost (whatever the reasons are) and Djokovic's win is even more impressive because he was 2 sets down, a position worse than last year. If Djokovic can salvage a win in that situation it will only fuel his self belief further and that helps in those big moments against the big top players.
That win over Fed for Djokovic is a big, big booster, Fed played very well and still lost (whatever the reasons are) and Djokovic's win is even more impressive because he was 2 sets down, a position worse than last year. If Djokovic can salvage a win in that situation it will only fuel his self belief further and that helps in those big moments against the big top players.
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C'mon Andy!!!!
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Murray takes the set, finally!
We actually got a match on our hands, let's hope for a 5 setter!
We actually got a match on our hands, let's hope for a 5 setter!
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Well done Andy. He hangs in there to take the third set 6-3.
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Andy does something no one has been able to do all tournament: win a set off Rafa.
Still a long way to go for Andy, but this is a start.
Still a long way to go for Andy, but this is a start.
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Go Andy Gooooo
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