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Post by Guest Wed Sep 14, 2011 4:20 pm

Anyone watching it? Great game so far, Canada just scored what was a great try. They're also, despite being 2/1 underdogs, outplaying the Tongans with a nice brand of offloading rugby. Good game. This is the first game, of the tier two nations, where, really, the result is properly in the balance in that no one really knows who will, or should, win.

7-0 at the moment, Tonga having just missed a kick at goal. Real contest.


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Post by offload Wed Sep 14, 2011 4:42 pm

Yes Canada have started well, a really good first half. I fancy them to take this.
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Post by Guest Wed Sep 14, 2011 5:10 pm

Such a great game. Maybe best game of the WC in terms of excitement. Canada are playing some beautiful rugby at times, really good approach through the offloading and desire to run it, which is brave considering their opposition. Knock ons costing them at the moment. I really hope they can beat Tonga, would be a good scalp and a nice gesture to those who seemed to have written them of for this game.

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Post by Pal Joey Wed Sep 14, 2011 5:12 pm

Nice try for Tonga now. They are starting to assert themselves so will be interesting to see what Canada can do in reply.

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Post by offload Wed Sep 14, 2011 5:14 pm

Is this another case of the team playing the rugby not going to win? Great game to watch.
Gutted that I have to leave for work Crying or Very sad
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Post by Guest Wed Sep 14, 2011 5:17 pm

Having said they're playing good rugby, they're just shooting themselves in the foot with their decision making. Case in point; just no, scrum v on their own line, they turn it over, then throw a stupid offload and knock it on, which very nearly ended in a try.

Need to realise that, once they've broken the gainline and got upfield through offloading, they don't have to go for a miracle pass. Playing clever rugby may well mean they can win this game, but if they carry on in this vein, they will concede at least two more tries.

It's a lot like watching Wales in '07, actually, beautiful at times, but seriously deficient in tactical and disiplinary awareness.

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Post by Guest Wed Sep 14, 2011 5:45 pm

Love it. Canada win 25-20, and absolutely deserved it.

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Post by Biltong Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:09 pm

Well, there goes my first WRONG prediction, so the floodgates will most likely open now. 🤦
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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:20 pm

Good on Canada. Nice to see them do so well. Japan will be their final now and the pressure will be off for the France and NZ games. Now those games would be an upset with capital letters.

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Post by Glas a du Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:21 pm

Da iawn Canada. Ymlaen y Cannucks.
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Post by Guest Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:32 pm

Could see Tonga potentially beating France if the French have a shocker. Don't write Canada out of getting to the QFs!!

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Post by mckay1402 Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:37 pm

Wouldn't it be awesome if Canada finished second...
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Post by whocares Wed Sep 14, 2011 7:55 pm

mckay1402 wrote:Wouldn't it be awesome if Canada finished second...

...and beat england in the QF

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Post by doctor_grey Wed Sep 14, 2011 7:59 pm

Didn't see it. Too late at night (or early in the morning) where I am. Were they truly on par with Tonga? Did they really appear to have something going? Would really like to see the lumberjacks make it out of the pools.

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Post by HammerofThunor Wed Sep 14, 2011 8:03 pm

Canada were better but the Tongans were making lots of basic errors. Forcing passes, losing it in contact, etc

It was strange seeing a Vainikolo not in white

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Post by Guest Wed Sep 14, 2011 8:04 pm

Canada made many, many mistakes, but they were positive, they tried to play a wonderful offloading game, and then popped up with two deserved tries in the last 15 to come back and regain the lead and win. Tonga will be disappointed, but based solely on the performances of the two teams, have nothing to complain about in losing.

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Post by doctor_grey Wed Sep 14, 2011 8:12 pm

Doubt Canada can come to France or the ABs, but how do you think they will do against Japan? Good shot, eh?

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Post by Guest Wed Sep 14, 2011 8:13 pm

I would've thought they would be favourites to beat Japan before this win. People seem to lump Canada together with the USA, when the reality is they're a far better rugby team than the Americans.

Would love Tonga to beat France, and I really do think that's possible.

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Post by doctor_grey Wed Sep 14, 2011 8:18 pm

I agree the Canadians are always considered the twin brother to the US team. But as you said, the Canadians have been much better than the US for a few years now. Really put them away this season. Hoping they beat Japan. Hopefully a Rugby nation on the up.

If you really feel Tonga can take on France, you might have had something extra in your morning coffee. But you should share whatever that is..........

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Post by whocares Wed Sep 14, 2011 8:23 pm

does the fact that Tonga played last friday might have something to do with their defeat?... same handicap for Canada as they have to play france on sunday again (luckily for france)..those teams do not have the bench to make it work.


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Post by Guest Wed Sep 14, 2011 8:37 pm

France are prone to a wobble. Tonga will be incredibly fired up for a scalp. Tonga also play a game that the French probably won't like. It's feasible that Tonga could beat France.

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Post by aitchw Wed Sep 14, 2011 8:37 pm

Great result for the Canucks! Thoroughly deserved and really surprised by their running game. Tongan tries a bit soft and the Canadians should be kicking themselves over that. Lots of good stuff for them to take forward.

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Post by clivemcl Wed Sep 14, 2011 8:42 pm

as much as i enjoyed watching canada this morning, did no-one watch the Japan france game? I would fancy Japan to beat both Canada and Tonga based on their performance v france!

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Post by HERSH Wed Sep 14, 2011 8:44 pm

Wow what a result, well played Canada
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Post by damage_13 Wed Sep 14, 2011 9:23 pm

clivemcl wrote:as much as i enjoyed watching canada this morning, did no-one watch the Japan france game? I would fancy Japan to beat both Canada and Tonga based on their performance v france!

yeah, I know loads of people who skipped this match while watching the matches either side (for sleep) and they missed a cracker.

2nd place is a three way fight if Japan and the Canucks can keep playing like that boxing

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Post by aucklandlaurie Wed Sep 14, 2011 9:28 pm

kieren Crowley should be congratulated for the preparation of that team.

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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Wed Sep 14, 2011 9:31 pm

Grandpa Crowley did well. But the Canadian players take the kudos for the execution of that plan. It wasn´t the most accurate execution but the intent and determination were there. Good on them and all the best for their remaining matches.

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Post by alcoombe Wed Sep 14, 2011 10:55 pm

I'm surprised at the amount of people in the media calling this a big scalp and an upset. Of the 6 games they've played against each other now, Canada have won 4. Here's a reminder of the irb rankings of three of the teams in this pool prior to today's game:

12(12) TONGA 72.48
13(13) JAPAN 71.95
14(14) CANADA 71.56


Compare that to the closeness of the rankings for the top three 6N sides:

4(5) ENGLAND 83.99
5(4) FRANCE 83.78
6(6) WALES 79.77



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Post by Comfort Thu Sep 15, 2011 12:00 am

How did O'Toole play in the back row for Canada? Did he start the game? I havent caught any of it yet but there seems to be very mixed reviews on him in general.....

hes signed for the ospreys (as back up id imagine) but I heard he had a good churchill cup....

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