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Post by mckay1402 Thu 15 Sep 2011 - 8:44

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3-3 so far. Would love to see Russia win this one.
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Post by Portnoy Thu 15 Sep 2011 - 10:03

You have to say that this game is being reffed brilliantly.
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Post by Portnoy Thu 15 Sep 2011 - 10:04

doctor_grey wrote:Port,
What was your prediction? Rus by how many?

I had Russia by 17. But it was a pure punt.
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Post by Mad for Chelsea Thu 15 Sep 2011 - 10:07

"you're getting my washing bill"

Brilliant from the ref laughing

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Post by Davie Thu 15 Sep 2011 - 10:07

Is it over now? Still 13-3?

The BBC page has now gone back to saying 10-3 again Rolling Eyes

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Post by Boyne Thu 15 Sep 2011 - 10:10

http://www.rugbyworldcup.com/rugbytracker/match=10931/index.html

13-3 Sad

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Post by Pal Joey Thu 15 Sep 2011 - 10:10

Still 13-3... 76th min

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Post by Portnoy Thu 15 Sep 2011 - 10:11

13-6. Pen
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Post by mckay1402 Thu 15 Sep 2011 - 10:12

I think I had russia by 6... I am literally rubbish at predicting. Lucky I'm not a betting man
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Post by mckay1402 Thu 15 Sep 2011 - 10:14

To the person yesterday who thinks that the lesser teams shouldn't be allowed in the world cup...this game has been brilliant. So glad these two teams are in, they make it the awesome tournament it is
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Post by Portnoy Thu 15 Sep 2011 - 10:15

USA off side. Late pen against Clever. 79 mins.
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Post by HERSH Thu 15 Sep 2011 - 10:15

Wow yet another dullfest, these guys need a 2nd tier world cup to improve their game play, maybe with the top four going into the real World Cup.
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Post by Boyne Thu 15 Sep 2011 - 10:16

mckay1402 wrote:To the person yesterday who thinks that the lesser teams shouldn't be allowed in the world cup...this game has been brilliant. So glad these two teams are in, they make it the awesome tournament it is

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Post by Portnoy Thu 15 Sep 2011 - 10:16

Comes to nothing. FS 13-6. Very good game.
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Post by mckay1402 Thu 15 Sep 2011 - 10:16

and yet you're still watching it.
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Post by Boyne Thu 15 Sep 2011 - 10:16

HERSH wrote:Wow yet another dullfest, these guys need a 2nd tier world cup to improve their game play, maybe with the top four going into the real World Cup.


Personal abuse removed.


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Post by doctor_grey Thu 15 Sep 2011 - 10:16

Well, its over.

But look at the celebrations. Look at what the match means toi both teams, the winners and the losers. This is one of the things which makes a great RWC.

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Post by HammerofThunor Thu 15 Sep 2011 - 10:17

Will Clever be cited for a late strike with the shoulder? Way after the ball had gone, no arms, terrible.

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Post by HERSH Thu 15 Sep 2011 - 10:18

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Post by mckay1402 Thu 15 Sep 2011 - 10:22

that was brilliant. USA look well organised and Russia counter attacke really well. Considering the short amount of time Russia have been playing they are very competative. They'll be extremely disappointed to have lost that. Well impressed with their fitness levels
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Post by HERSH Thu 15 Sep 2011 - 10:24

I think people haven't understood what I'm saying, for these teams to develop and grow they need proper competition more often maybe a round robin competition a year before the main event with the top 4 teams from that going into one of two groups into the RWC.

This would give these guys some real competition and a decent prize at the end of it, the RWC needs to be a showcase event.

These teams aren't good enough, Yet!

NL1 standard at best, thats not good enough for a RWC.


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Post by rodders Thu 15 Sep 2011 - 10:27

Anything from Russia that might worry Ireland or Italy?

Good to see the USA get a win. They really put their bodies on theline against us and that was a tough 4 day turn around.
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Post by beshocked Thu 15 Sep 2011 - 10:28

Hersh the RWC is a showcase event. You make us English look bad with your numerous foolish narrow minded comments.

The best sides will qualify for the quarter finals anyway.

It is not a foregone conclusion England will qualify yet.

Wales have their hands full enough in their group.

Italy might shock Ireland.

France cannot be complacent against Canada and Tonga.

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Post by Biltong Thu 15 Sep 2011 - 10:30

I haven't checked, but I bet you the USA beat more defenders and had more offloads and clean breaks than england vs Argentina. Shocked
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Post by HERSH Thu 15 Sep 2011 - 10:30

removed All-Caps post - against site rules
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Post by aucklandlaurie Thu 15 Sep 2011 - 10:30

davie
i forgot about things like work, i thought there must have been a more inportant game being played in the NH which was being broadcast on your Rugby channel.

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Post by aucklandlaurie Thu 15 Sep 2011 - 10:32

If anyone cant see the benefits of having teams like the USA and Russia in a World cup competition then they are not looking at it from the interests of rugby.

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Post by rodders Thu 15 Sep 2011 - 10:32

HERSH wrote:
This would give these guys some real competition and a decent prize at the end of it, the RWC needs to be a showcase event.

True and if England, Ireland and Scotland played the game with the same commitment, skill and passion that Japan, Canada, the USA, Russia, Georgia, Romania, Samoa etc. do then it would be a feckin better spectacle for all of us.



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Post by Pal Joey Thu 15 Sep 2011 - 10:32

mckay1402 wrote:that was brilliant. USA look well organised and Russia counter attacke really well. Considering the short amount of time Russia have been playing they are very competative. They'll be extremely disappointed to have lost that. Well impressed with their fitness levels

Yeah I agree - the 1st half was better but things slowed down towards the end of the match... with more errors from both sides. Still, good to see these two nations get stuck into one another. I enjoyed that match as much, if not slightly more, than the Scotland-Georgia and Argentina-England ones.

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Post by damage_13 Thu 15 Sep 2011 - 10:34

you're the one that needs to be re-formatted hersh.

How about you grab a slice of STFU pie and let the forums users following this game talk about this game on this thread and yo can sprout your broken record, badly timed and worded fart pieces elsewhere eh

stop spoiling other peoples enjoyment.


Back on topic:

really annoyed I missed this one, sounds like it was an entertaining match to watch

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Post by Biltong Thu 15 Sep 2011 - 10:34

Yep, USA total offloads, clean breaks and defenders beaten, 26
England total offloads, clean breaks and defenders beaten 9.

Even Argentina did better than england. total 25

Russia total. 16
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Post by damage_13 Thu 15 Sep 2011 - 10:34

whoa, nice stats.

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Post by HERSH Thu 15 Sep 2011 - 10:34

Some of you need to take off your rose tinted RWC glasses and see that game for what it was, 3rd /4th rate, if that was a Rabo12 or a JEFF game people would be mocking it.
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Post by Guest Thu 15 Sep 2011 - 10:35

Debate all you like folks but remember argue against the point, not the poster. No personal insults please.


Gutted Russia lost, had them to win by 5. Think they're a really exciting team to watch, looking forward to how they progress in the future. Giving them exposure to this level of rugby is exactly what is needed to help the game grow, and long may it continue Smile

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Post by rodders Thu 15 Sep 2011 - 10:35

HERSH wrote:BUT HOW WILL THAT GAME GROW THE SPORT?

IT WAS DULL, THE SKILL LEVELS WERE POOR, YOU'D SEE A BETTER GAME DOWN YOUR LOCAL PARK.


If you are talking about England v Argentina then I agree 100%.
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Post by HERSH Thu 15 Sep 2011 - 10:36

Can't wait for the Eng v Georgia game

My prediction Eng 72 - Geo 9
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Post by Pal Joey Thu 15 Sep 2011 - 10:37

There was heavy rain at half time too so it didn't help the handling in the 2nd half. On a dry day I think the USA might have crossed the line a few more times, maybe Russia would have got a try too.

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Post by rodders Thu 15 Sep 2011 - 10:37

HERSH wrote:Can't wait for the Eng v Georgia game

My prediction Eng 72 - Geo 9

What was your prediction for the Argentina game Hersh?
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Post by aucklandlaurie Thu 15 Sep 2011 - 10:38

there has been some huge money (dollars and rubles) flying into New Zealand in Lear jets in the 48 hours prior to this game toninght.

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Post by Guest Thu 15 Sep 2011 - 10:39

Guys, let's keep this on topic. If anyone wants to discuss England's prospects/past matches/or whether lower ranked sides should be included, there are other threads out there. Any more off topic comments run the risk of being removed.

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Post by HERSH Thu 15 Sep 2011 - 10:41

Off-topic piece removed, per warnings above. KRD

Well played USA by the way, top result


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Post by Pal Joey Thu 15 Sep 2011 - 10:41

That guy Zhukov... is he related to the great WW2 General?
Mr Keys looked a fine host, Laurie.

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Post by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) Thu 15 Sep 2011 - 10:42


Further to Dreamer's comments, there's been a pile of personal abuse posted by multiple people over the past couple of days.

Cut it out, or you'll be spending some time in the cooler.

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Post by Biltong Thu 15 Sep 2011 - 10:45

That would be nice I think, it is getting pretty warm here in Jo'burg. Rolling Eyes
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Post by Guest Thu 15 Sep 2011 - 10:50

I'm actually surprised people backed Russia over the USA, but then I had the benefit of seeing them in a warmup game. I'd have backed USA if I were on that WC sportguru (probably by a margin of 7 too Whistle )

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Post by aucklandlaurie Thu 15 Sep 2011 - 10:54

linebreaker
John key didnt need a second invite did he, Ther's nothing like a billionare to get a Kiwis interest. And Kiwiredevil, I am on topic I'm talking about the USDA russia game played about an hour ago..

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Post by Biltong Thu 15 Sep 2011 - 10:54

Yeah, I stupidly suggested by 8. 🤦
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Post by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) Thu 15 Sep 2011 - 10:55

I had USA by 10 Doh
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Post by Biltong Thu 15 Sep 2011 - 10:56

you are a worse predictor than I, much, much infinitely worse. Yahoo


and yet we get the same damn points. 🤦


Just isn't fair.
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Post by Pal Joey Thu 15 Sep 2011 - 10:58

Kiwireddevil wrote:I had USA by 10 Doh

Me too

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Post by Rava Thu 15 Sep 2011 - 10:59

Linebreaker wrote:
Kiwireddevil wrote:I had USA by 10 Doh

Me too

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Me also. Was hoping that Russia would miss the last kick - terrible I know and not very sporting Wink
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