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Zack Ryder
Well it seems to me that Zack Ryder is starting to get the attention of HHH and Vince, and he is receiving a push of sorts, and it could culminate in him being the US Champion soon.
I wonder, though, what people think of him away from all the hype and his youtube show? How do you rate him, and where do you think he could get to?
I think he may have found his level, a solid midcard position, with a decent characted that is at least a little different to what we have seen. Naturally he lends himself as a face, but I do think he could mix it up and add some heelish traits in there, so in a sense he's versatile...
He isn't as 'over' as I might have expected right now, given all the hype of his show, and although his youtube show is pretty big and earned him fans and a push, I still get the feeling he isn't known by a fair few of the WWE fans, and many may be totally oblivious to why this goofy guy is being put on RAW each week now!
I wonder, though, what people think of him away from all the hype and his youtube show? How do you rate him, and where do you think he could get to?
I think he may have found his level, a solid midcard position, with a decent characted that is at least a little different to what we have seen. Naturally he lends himself as a face, but I do think he could mix it up and add some heelish traits in there, so in a sense he's versatile...
He isn't as 'over' as I might have expected right now, given all the hype of his show, and although his youtube show is pretty big and earned him fans and a push, I still get the feeling he isn't known by a fair few of the WWE fans, and many may be totally oblivious to why this goofy guy is being put on RAW each week now!
sodhat- Posts : 22236
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Re: Zack Ryder
His show isn't exactly new but he was using YouTube to do little shows for years, he and Curt Hawkins where doing them for a long while before and after the initial Edgeheads stuff peaked.
I rate both of them highly, maybe not as top guys but I remember about 3 years ago saying that they have the same kind of attraction as Edge & Christian, those guys should have been the WWE's blue print for them, I still think it's Ryder's best chance long term, I'd say Ryder is as over as he could be right now given his lack of TV exposure, Hawkins is very witty and goofy too, both could do well playing off each other
I rate both of them highly, maybe not as top guys but I remember about 3 years ago saying that they have the same kind of attraction as Edge & Christian, those guys should have been the WWE's blue print for them, I still think it's Ryder's best chance long term, I'd say Ryder is as over as he could be right now given his lack of TV exposure, Hawkins is very witty and goofy too, both could do well playing off each other
Kay Fabe- Posts : 9685
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I've never been a huge fan of Ryder, I think he's a little overrated
psycho-gooner- Posts : 438
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It does seem like he will at least get a shot at Zigglers US title , not sure id give him the belt though .
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I think they will give him the belt eventually, not that it will mean much really. US/IC champions are ten a penny it seems, and I can't keep up with who's won it and who's feuding with who!
I wonder whether they will rebrand the Ryder/Hawkins team gaffer? If not Hawkins must be looking over his shoulder and expecting to be FE'd.
I wonder whether they will rebrand the Ryder/Hawkins team gaffer? If not Hawkins must be looking over his shoulder and expecting to be FE'd.
sodhat- Posts : 22236
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Nothing suggests that they are interested in putting them back together, they did team up a couple of times on SuperStars a while back but I think that was more conveinence than plan, the only hope of them getting back together would be if Ryder got him more involved on his web show
Kay Fabe- Posts : 9685
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As for the IC/US titles, I think Dolph and Cody have really done well making them look important, I like seeing guys wear belts rather than use them as fashion accessories around their shoulder
Kay Fabe- Posts : 9685
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Ryder probably deserves this push at the moment as he has put himself out there and been proactive in exposing himself. In one of HHH's most recent interviews he speaks of mid carders not having enough get up and go about them, so at least Ryder is trying. But no he is not main event or world champion material, at least not with his current gimmick. Of course he could always change his gimmick to become edgier in future but at the moment I think he deserves to be in the mix for the US title.
talkingpoint- Posts : 1605
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Re: Zack Ryder
i like the z true long island story and think its been great tool in getting him over.
i still think that his character needs work its good to be goofy etc but if he wants to progress more would probably have to be more serious. #Areyouseriousbro
yup also think he is still got alot to learn in the ring, even though he has been wrestling a number of years.
see him as an up coming star and as stated by others he has done well to get over especially as he has very little tv exposure.
i still think that his character needs work its good to be goofy etc but if he wants to progress more would probably have to be more serious. #Areyouseriousbro
yup also think he is still got alot to learn in the ring, even though he has been wrestling a number of years.
see him as an up coming star and as stated by others he has done well to get over especially as he has very little tv exposure.
MetalMotty- Posts : 530
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Re: Zack Ryder
I really like him, he is one of a rare few superstars that acctually make me laugh. His in ring skills are ok and i think he does indeed some sort of mid card push
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NickisBHAFC- Posts : 11670
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Mr H- Posts : 2820
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the-gaffer wrote:As for the IC/US titles, I think Dolph and Cody have really done well making them look important, I like seeing guys wear belts rather than use them as fashion accessories around their shoulder
Mark Henry hasnt really got a choice though lol!!
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Re: Zack Ryder
I still think that the primary reason for his push is that comic relief #1 (Santino Marella) is not available at the moment.
JoshSansom- Posts : 1510
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I don't think he is the same standard of joke Santino is/was which could stand him in good stead
Kay Fabe- Posts : 9685
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I hope they don't consign him to the novelty act bin along with Hornswoggle and Santino, it'll kill his chances at ever doing anything worthwhile. He'd get plenty of TV time, but it would seem a monumental waste of his potential.
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the-gaffer wrote:Nothing suggests that they are interested in putting them back together, they did team up a couple of times on SuperStars a while back but I think that was more conveinence than plan, the only hope of them getting back together would be if Ryder got him more involved on his web show
Hawkins is tagging with Tyler Reks.
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Yeah I saw them on RAW in a backstage segment, doubt they'll take it anywhere though, Reks and that jobber who won NXT where a pretty good team in FCW, just two big aggressivw badasses, like a toned down version of the APA
Kay Fabe- Posts : 9685
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Re: Zack Ryder
Zack Ryder is funny for all
Santino is simply for kids in my view
Santino is simply for kids in my view
NickisBHAFC- Posts : 11670
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NickisBHAFC wrote:Zack Ryder is funny for all
Santino is simply for kids in my view
Agreed, but had Santino not got injured, I doubt that there would have been as much screen time available for Zack to exploit.
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