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Post by manos de piedra Fri 04 Mar 2011, 3:29 pm

Heard that Wlads camp have cancelled the venue for the April 30th clash with Chisora depite it being sold out and it now looks like the fight will be called off.

Hopefully this means that Klitschko v Haye is now a serious possibility for July.

Just what I have heard so not 100% sure its set in stone. Will probably be more news on it later so will have to wait and see.

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Post by Michaels, Sean Fri 04 Mar 2011, 3:32 pm

Did you hear this from 606?
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Post by manos de piedra Fri 04 Mar 2011, 3:35 pm

Michaels, Sean wrote:Did you hear this from 606?

No I got a message off a friend. Had a look on the internet there but there isnt a great deal about it. Seems to be just a rumour at the moment with nothing substantial. Why is it confirmed on 606?

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Post by Adam D Fri 04 Mar 2011, 3:36 pm

A guy called Evan Field has said the same thing

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Post by Rodney Fri 04 Mar 2011, 3:39 pm

If Haye V Wlad was coming off I would extremely surprised if Booth etc would still let Wlad have his fight with Chisora, a cut, hand injury and even the slight chance of a clip round the whiskers could jeopardise a lot of money for Haye's clan, if true this is the clearest indication the fight is happening, I hope so I've been given the nod off the other half I can go, good news for boxing.

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Post by manos de piedra Fri 04 Mar 2011, 3:41 pm

Had a look on 606 there and I dont think theres any confirmations. Just the same rumours Ive been hearing.

Its up on Eastside now aswell but again, nothing confirmed.

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Post by Scottrf Fri 04 Mar 2011, 3:44 pm

Annoyingly will be on holiday, would have gone to this.

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Post by Zeb the owl Fri 04 Mar 2011, 3:49 pm

I can only find forum rumours about it too, doing the rounds pretty quick though. Hopefully there is something behind it.

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Post by Rodney Fri 04 Mar 2011, 3:51 pm

Scottrf wrote:Annoyingly will be on holiday, would have gone to this.

I wouldnt worry mate because funny enough Scott, I was saying the exact same thing two years ago on the old BBC 606 when it was signed for June 20th I was in Florida & at the time was relieved it was cancelled as I couldnt even get to watch it on the box, didnt realise two years later they'd be still yet to meet.

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Post by Scottrf Fri 04 Mar 2011, 3:54 pm

Yeah, that's the saving grace. Not having to worry about one of them pulling out (if it does get signed).

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Post by Sugar Boy Sweetie Fri 04 Mar 2011, 3:58 pm

Good news if its true. Have to feel a bit bad for chisora though - to have the fight pulled once, 4 days beforehand is one thing, to have it pulled a second time is out and out low. Wlad should've just scrapped the idea totally after the first fight got cancelled.

He cited "owing" chisora the fight after pulling out as the reason he wanted to fight him 9 weeks prior to haye, so how will pulling out again for haye look for a so called 'honourable man'? If contracts have been signed between wlad and chisora and wlad pulls out with no justifiable reason other than to fight someone else, then I'm not sure he'll be able to get away with it. Certainly it will give warren a chance to get his well worn court suit dry cleaned and ready for action again.


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Post by samevans1 Fri 04 Mar 2011, 4:00 pm

Chisora might come again. I'm not too bothered about is hurt feelings if this fight is finally getting made!

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Post by Sugar Boy Sweetie Fri 04 Mar 2011, 4:02 pm

samevans1 wrote:Chisora might come again. I'm not too bothered about is hurt feelings if this fight is finally getting made!

I couldnt give a monkeys toss about chisoras feelings, he's a big boy, just saying that i'm not sure it will be as simple as saying "sod off del boy we're fighting haye instead" if contracts have been signed and there's no injury or other legit reason. I know chisoras is a voluntary defence, but a deal is a deal.
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Post by Gentleman01 Fri 04 Mar 2011, 4:10 pm

Sugar Boy Sweetie wrote:
samevans1 wrote:Chisora might come again. I'm not too bothered about is hurt feelings if this fight is finally getting made!

I couldnt give a monkeys toss about chisoras feelings, he's a big boy, just saying that i'm not sure it will be as simple as saying "sod off del boy we're fighting haye instead" if contracts have been signed and there's no injury or other legit reason. I know chisoras is a voluntary defence, but a deal is a deal.

He'll get some step-aside money, and perhaps a promise of a crack at the winner... Once any contractual re-matches are out the way

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Post by Rowley Fri 04 Mar 2011, 4:10 pm

I wouldnt worry mate because funny enough Scott, I was saying the exact same thing two years ago on the old BBC 606 when it was signed for June 20th I was in Florida & at the time was relieved it was cancelled as I couldnt even get to watch it on the box, didnt realise two years later they'd be still yet to meet.
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Would happily swap you Rodders me and the missus went, hotels, flights and tickets booked by the time they cancelled. A grand to watch Wlad and Chageuv. Cheers!

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Post by coxy0001 Fri 04 Mar 2011, 4:19 pm

Manos

This is a reference to your stance on the old 606...

If Wlad could fight both in a 9 week period then why has the Chisora fight rumoured to have been cancelled....?

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Post by Rowley Fri 04 Mar 2011, 4:26 pm

Coxy could be interpreted as a reflection of Wlad's desire to do the fight, this was a stumbling block for Haye and Booth, so Wlad is removing it.

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Post by superflyweight Fri 04 Mar 2011, 4:31 pm

A grand to watch Wlad and Chageuv.
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They'd have to offer me a hell of a lot more to watch it again, Jeff!

P.S. good to see Rodney posting on here.

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Post by manos de piedra Fri 04 Mar 2011, 4:38 pm

coxy0001 wrote:Manos

This is a reference to your stance on the old 606...

If Wlad could fight both in a 9 week period then why has the Chisora fight rumoured to have been cancelled....?

Could be one of several reasons;

Maybe Haye is willing to make some further concessions of his own to make Wlad drop the fight. He is left with little options and a mandatory that cant get a UK permit to fight. So either he travels or gets a new mandatory like Povetkin which is big risk/low reward.

Maybe Wlad first time round didnt realise Haye would pull the plug on the fight and chanced his arm that Haye would just accept the interim fight given everything else was in rder. When it became clear that Haye wouldnt budge on it maybe he realised the Haye fight was more important and caved in on it.

I still think if Wlad had his way then he would prefer to have both fights. Not as close proximity of course but I still dont think that would bother him too much. But something could have happened since then. Both guys were trying to call the others bluff on the issue - Wlad by saying July was still open, Haye by saying the fight was off unless otherwise.

I would say the most likely reason is that Wlad has realised the fight may never happen at all if he goes ahead with Chisora and Haye could genuinely retire in October so he has been forced to concede the issue. He perhaps thought Haye would discuss a later date or just give in to July.

Thats assuming the rumour is true.

My main point in reference to the old 606 debate was that I didnt and still dont think Wlad ever aranged the Chisora fight in order to "duck" Haye. And on the flip side of that Haye did not have much to lose by going ahead with July 2nd.

If the Chisora fight does get cancelled then either Haye was so keen for the fight to happen in July with no warm up that he gave Wlad more concessions to entice him to drop it. Or that he issued Wlad with an ultimatum saying its July or nothing with no warm up and Wlad realised he wasnt going to budge.




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Post by coxy0001 Fri 04 Mar 2011, 4:39 pm

Rowley

You'll remember the various heated arguements about Wlad being fine to fight twice inside 9 weeks and it was upto Haye to just sign the contract..

As per my comment the other day i may well get lubed up and go dancing round the streets naked if they do sign though... Hate to think what i'd do if you know who vs you know who gets done! Wink

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Post by Rodney Fri 04 Mar 2011, 4:53 pm

rowley wrote:I wouldnt worry mate because funny enough Scott, I was saying the exact same thing two years ago on the old BBC 606 when it was signed for June 20th I was in Florida & at the time was relieved it was cancelled as I couldnt even get to watch it on the box, didnt realise two years later they'd be still yet to meet.
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Would happily swap you Rodders me and the missus went, hotels, flights and tickets booked by the time they cancelled. A grand to watch Wlad and Chageuv. Cheers!

Tough going that Jeff, like yourself I'll pretty much watch anyone but a £1000 quid lot of money mate, I surmise you wont be jumping to the front of the queue to buy tickets if this is announced, the missus might give you clip around the head if you do.

Thanks for the kind word Super, lovely to see you posting and hope you're well

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Post by Sugar Boy Sweetie Fri 04 Mar 2011, 4:53 pm

coxy0001 wrote:Rowley

You'll remember the various heated arguements about Wlad being fine to fight twice inside 9 weeks and it was upto Haye to just sign the contract..

As per my comment the other day i may well get lubed up and go dancing round the streets naked if they do sign though... Hate to think what i'd do if you know who vs you know who gets done! Wink

If you know who vs you know who gets made then you know who will have to eat a load of you know what for two years of ducking accusations about you know who, then when you know who hands you know who a boxing lesson you know who will never show his face you knwo where again, lest he admit that you know who is better than he gave him credit for and he over rated you know who. Meanwhile if it's made coxy will will have to run around you know where with his know whats swinging about. You know?
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Post by Rowley Fri 04 Mar 2011, 4:58 pm

I surmise you wont be jumping to the front of the queue to buy tickets if this is announced, the missus might give you clip around the head if you do.
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Unless it is Wembley or somewhere in the UK think I may well go for the once bitten twice shy approach to this one Rodders. Was a cracking weekend irrespective of the cancellation as Hatton was there so got to go on the lash with him but still a lot of money for a fight that if they held in my back garden i'd probably close the curtains rather than sit through again.

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Post by Shantel Jackson Boyfriend Fri 04 Mar 2011, 4:59 pm

Coxy you will scare the neighbours away so lets hope for their sake that Wlad and Haye don't sign the contract.

Great news for boxing fans if it does happen expect Haye to blast both the Klitschko sisters out!

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Post by Scottrf Fri 04 Mar 2011, 5:01 pm

rowley wrote:Unless it is Wembley or somewhere in the UK think
Frankfurt Footy Stadium was the whisper.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Coba-arena-ffm004.jpg

Makes sense, big screen above.

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Post by slash912 Fri 04 Mar 2011, 6:52 pm

Sugar Boy Sweetie wrote:

If you know who vs you know who gets made then you know who will have to eat a load of you know what for two years of ducking accusations about you know who, then when you know who hands you know who a boxing lesson you know who will never show his face you knwo where again, lest he admit that you know who is better than he gave him credit for and he over rated you know who. Meanwhile if it's made coxy will will have to run around you know where with his know whats swinging about. You know?

I wasn't expecting to have to concentrate so much on a friday evening just to follow something Sugar Boy!

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Post by Scottrf Sat 05 Mar 2011, 3:37 pm

Confirmed http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/9415727.stm

What a scandal. To say it is because of injury is such BS and the doctor should be struck off.

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Post by azania Sat 05 Mar 2011, 3:42 pm

Scottrf wrote:Confirmed http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/9415727.stm

What a scandal. To say it is because of injury is such BS and the doctor should be struck off.

I wonder how much, if anything, Delboy will get for not fighting. He should be well compensated for being messed around by the Klits.

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Post by Scottrf Sat 05 Mar 2011, 3:46 pm

He will get nothing because they are faking an injury.

So now he's probably bought sparring partners and wasted months for K to pull out, and Flip around with any fans who have bought tickets. It's disgraceful.

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Post by Sugar Boy Sweetie Sat 05 Mar 2011, 3:50 pm

It's tough on chisora, but if it means wlad v haye gets done then that's the best outcome. Chisora will get his shot in time, this was probably too soon anyway and in the long run it may be doing him a favour. Hopefully he'll get in with Tyson Fury now instead and shut the overhyped flabby bums gob.
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Post by samevans1 Sat 05 Mar 2011, 3:52 pm

It is disgraceful; but I don't really care as long as Haye Klitschko gets made!

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Post by azania Sat 05 Mar 2011, 3:54 pm

Scottrf wrote:He will get nothing because they are faking an injury.

So now he's probably bought sparring partners and wasted months for K to pull out, and Flip around with any fans who have bought tickets. It's disgraceful.

Poor git.

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Post by Scottrf Sat 05 Mar 2011, 3:59 pm

Maybe I'm wrong, I wonder if they wrote anything into the contract regarding injury. I can't imagine Warren being so naive as to not consider it, but I'm not sure he would be allowed to write that in. Certainly in a standard situation he wouldn't be entitled to compensation.

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Post by azania Sat 05 Mar 2011, 4:08 pm

Scottrf wrote:Maybe I'm wrong, I wonder if they wrote anything into the contract regarding injury. I can't imagine Warren being so naive as to not consider it, but I'm not sure he would be allowed to write that in. Certainly in a standard situation he wouldn't be entitled to compensation.

Dunno. Say if they did and Del got injured. Can you imagine him paying anythiing out?

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Post by sweet_pea Sat 05 Mar 2011, 4:13 pm

not a rumour any longer:

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=27165&more=1

seems like we'll all get to see the HW fight we've been waiting for, for the last 2 years.
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Post by bellchees Sat 05 Mar 2011, 5:11 pm

It's hard to feel sorry for Chisora. He'll probably get paid a fair bit, gets saved the trouble of having a systematic beat down from Klitschko and just his name being thrown around over the last few months will have done his PR a world of good.

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Post by BALTIMORA Sat 05 Mar 2011, 5:20 pm

It'll be interesting to see how Warren reacts to this. Hopefully he'll kick up a stink and be an awkward Kumquat. Boxing seems to be out-performing itself with maddening regularity when it come to hitting new lows lately.

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Post by Shantel Jackson Boyfriend Sat 05 Mar 2011, 5:30 pm

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Would you dance the streets naked if haye and wlad gets made? Wink

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Post by BALTIMORA Sat 05 Mar 2011, 6:50 pm

First of all, what's in it for me? Secondly, I'm a little perturbed that you'd take such a keen interest, Shantel.

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Post by BALTIMORA Sat 05 Mar 2011, 6:51 pm

But in seriousness, I WOULD be quite pleased after all the faffing.

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Post by Shantel Jackson Boyfriend Sat 05 Mar 2011, 7:32 pm

As per my comment the other day i may well get lubed up and go dancing round the streets naked if they do sign though

You said it not me

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Post by BALTIMORA Sat 05 Mar 2011, 7:40 pm

What the frig are you on about?

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Post by Shantel Jackson Boyfriend Sat 05 Mar 2011, 7:52 pm

What you wrote on your coxy account

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Post by azania Sat 05 Mar 2011, 7:57 pm

Thats all good guys, but can we keep it to boxing please. I'm sure there are boards somewhere which will cater for allsorts.

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Post by Shantel Jackson Boyfriend Sat 05 Mar 2011, 7:59 pm

Derek Chisora getting messed about by Klitsckho and Wlad has the nerve to criticise Haye for it

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Post by azania Sat 05 Mar 2011, 8:01 pm

Shantel Jackson Boyfriend wrote:Derek Chisora getting messed about by Klitsckho and Wlad has the nerve to criticise Haye for it

Boxers only see one perspective; theirs. Of course Wlad will claim the injury to be genuine so no blame on him. Rolling Eyes

I wonder whop here will accuse Wlad of ducking Delboy? Erm

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Post by ADMIN Sat 05 Mar 2011, 8:04 pm

I just wanted to pop on here and say please refrain from accusing members of having multiple accounts.

Coxy & Baltimora are as far I am concerned separate users.
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Post by Sugar Boy Sweetie Sat 05 Mar 2011, 8:33 pm

Shantel Jackson Boyfriend wrote:What you wrote on your coxy account

For gods sake. Can someone get this clown off of here? This boards been going 5 minutes and he's starting his old "youve got this alias and that alias bs". This new forum is excellent, we don't need all this cack all over again.
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Post by Shantel Jackson Boyfriend Sat 05 Mar 2011, 8:43 pm

Sugar Boy Sweetie

Coming from someone who can just through pathetic insults. The only clown here is you and if you don't like me well you can get lost because you don't own this forum you pathetic moron.

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Post by Guest Sat 05 Mar 2011, 8:45 pm

SJB,

Less of the insults please, that's a mod and 2 admins that have stepped in now back on topic please.

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