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Post by Union Cane Mon 31 Oct 2011, 12:03 pm

Moment of the night for me during Saturday's Prizefighter was when Mongolian Warrior Choi banjoed Lee Glover with a huge overhand right to the temple which lifted the 'Tipton Slasher' clean off his feet and left him face down on the canvas. To his credit, Glover was quickly up and standing, but it was what happened next that I found incredible. Glover shook his head and waved his glove at the referee, clearly trying to pass off what had just happened as a slip. Luckily the referee wasn't daft, and ruled it a knock-down, another of which followed shortly afterwards before Glover decided that he'd had enough and quit in his corner.

Are there any other examples of downed fighters trying to con the referee in this way?

Have any ever succeeded?

04:30 on here for those who haven't seen it...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDnjJrZY4Tg.





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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Mon 31 Oct 2011, 12:06 pm

Did something like that not happen when Khan fought Limmond?

Khan got knocked down and bounced up saying he slipped but the ref bought it on this occasion.
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Post by Union Cane Mon 31 Oct 2011, 12:12 pm

04:30 on here for those who haven't seen it...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDnjJrZY4Tg
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Post by AlexHuckerby Mon 31 Oct 2011, 12:14 pm

haye wlad klit?

haye going over on purpose which got wlad into trouble and he lost a point.

was clearly a haye-booth tactic to counter wlad leaning on him. ended up backfiring on him however with the knockdown near the end.

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Post by Scottrf Mon 31 Oct 2011, 12:15 pm

Sort of the opposite but Holmes slipped against Shavers and it was called a knockdown. He got straight up.

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Post by 88Chris05 Mon 31 Oct 2011, 12:21 pm

If I remember correctly, there were a couple of contentious knockdowns in the two Tyson-Ruddock fights, with the (probably) premature stoppage in the first one, too. Personally, I'm not sure what Ruddock was complaining about for the knockdown, but there you go.

Prince Naz against Augie Sanchez was another one, and I'm sure most know the story of Ali-Wepner, with Wepner apparently treading on Ali's foot to help get the 'knockdown' which has passed in to folklore.

The second 'knock down' in Pacquiao-Mosley was as bad a refereeing call as you could wish to see, to be honest....
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Post by Michaels, Sean Mon 31 Oct 2011, 1:38 pm

Judah v Tszyu has to be the all time greatest example.......
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Post by Scottrf Mon 31 Oct 2011, 1:43 pm

Got one at last, Judah vs Mayweather.

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Post by 88Chris05 Mon 31 Oct 2011, 1:55 pm

Again, it's another example of the reverse happening, but I remember Benn taking a tumble against Malinga (the fight where he lost his world title) in the final round. Pretty dubious knockdown but the referee called it. The odd thing is that, had the knockdown not been given and Benn fought a decent last round, he may have held on to this title via a draw, as somehow one judge managed to have him ahead, and another level at that stage (not sure what fight those two judges were watching, Benn was well beaten that night).
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Post by manos de piedra Mon 31 Oct 2011, 1:58 pm

Cintron - Martinez

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Post by Guest Mon 31 Oct 2011, 2:05 pm

Benn - Eubank I

Hatton - Mayweather

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Post by AlexHuckerby Mon 31 Oct 2011, 2:11 pm

hatton mayweather...?

are you talking about round 1?

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Post by Guest Mon 31 Oct 2011, 2:19 pm

No, I'm talking about Hatton's post fight interview when he said he was doing OK until he slipped.

It was a joke, a poor one I admit but a joke nevertheless

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Post by 88Chris05 Mon 31 Oct 2011, 2:20 pm

DAVE667 wrote:No, I'm talking about Hatton's post fight interview when he said he was doing OK until he slipped.

It was a joke, a poor one I admit but a joke nevertheless

lol
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Post by AlexHuckerby Mon 31 Oct 2011, 2:40 pm

DAVE667 wrote:No, I'm talking about Hatton's post fight interview when he said he was doing OK until he slipped.

It was a joke, a poor one I admit but a joke nevertheless

ah... missed that.

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Post by HumanWindmill Mon 31 Oct 2011, 2:44 pm

Willie Pep was probably as poor a referee as he was marvellous as a fighter.

As third man in the first Harada v Famechon encounter in Australia Pep, among other things, contrived to rule a legitimate knockdown ( scored by Harada, if memory serves, ) a slip and a slip, ( suffered by Harada, ) a knockdown.


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Post by 88Chris05 Mon 31 Oct 2011, 3:43 pm

HumanWindmill wrote:Willie Pep was probably as poor a referee as he was marvellous as a fighter.

As third man in the first Harada v Famechon encounter in Australia Pep, among other things, contrived to rule a legitimate knockdown ( scored by Harada, if memory serves, ) a slip and a slip, ( suffered by Harada, ) a knockdown.


Good shout, Windy. Still amazes me how incompetant Pep was in that bout. And it amazes me even more that he managed to score it a draw at first, before then (seemingly) caving in to the pro-Famechon crowd in Sydney and awarding him the victory. Can't take anything away from Famechon in terms of his performance second time out, but I'll always believe that Harada was incredibly unlucky not to have taken a third world title that night.
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Post by J.Benson II Mon 31 Oct 2011, 5:04 pm

I recall a wobbly legged Chris Byrd pleading with the referee that he slipped after getting totally poleaxed by Ike Ibeabuchi.
He was able to continue but was stopped shortly afterwards.

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Post by AlexHuckerby Mon 31 Oct 2011, 5:53 pm

the vitali slip against adamek was an odd one.

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Post by Mr Bounce Tue 01 Nov 2011, 1:19 pm

When Briggs fought Lewis he threw a punch which missed but was so knackered he fell over and the ref waved the fight off.

Toe to toe stuff but Lewis showed he could take a good shot when Briggs nearly took his head off early in the fight. By the 5th round Briggs had punched himself out.

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Post by ShahenshahG Tue 01 Nov 2011, 2:20 pm

J.Benson II wrote:I recall a wobbly legged Chris Byrd pleading with the referee that he slipped after getting totally poleaxed by Ike Ibeabuchi.
He was able to continue but was stopped shortly afterwards.

I remember that, he wa frothing at the mouth and spit trailing down onto the ring and he was protesting the knockdown.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Tue 01 Nov 2011, 4:39 pm

Kosta vs Judah.....Judah slipped in one of the greatest dances since Astaire took Rogers for a spin..

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Post by Michaels, Sean Tue 01 Nov 2011, 5:50 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Y6kog5RJKY

Not sure how this guy can remonstrate with the ref. Gets all physical as well.
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