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Schalke 04 (TSC)
First topic message reminder :
Manager - Mr Long Leggy Cleggy Weggy
Assistant Manager - Chris Addison
Chairwoman - Mrs. Agnes Brown
Transfer budget of £34m
Sponsored by BMW
Initial sum: £12m
Bonus: £2m per win £500k per draw (All competitions)
Target: Top 2 finish
If met: £18m
GOALKEEPERS
Rene Adler - German - NFS
Lars Unnerstall - German
DEFENDERS
Benedikt Howedes (CB) - German - NFS under any circumstances (and Hero has first refusal on him anyway)
Tim Hoogland (RB) - German
Christoph Metzelder (CB) - German
Atsuto Uchida (RB) - NFS
Christian Fuchs (LB) - German - NreallyFS
Shane Duffy (CB) - U21
Emilio Izaguirre (LB) - NFS
MIDFIELDERS
Levan Kenia (AM)
Axel Witsel (AM/ RW) - NFS
Dániel Tőzsér (CM)
Charlie Adam (The Best Midfielder in The World) - NFS
Moritz Leitner (CM) - U21/German - NFS
Scott Allan (CM) - U21
Alan Dzagoev (CM) - NFS
Étienne Capoue (DM/CM) - NFS
FORWARDS
Burak Yilmaz (ST)
Conor McAleny (ST) - U21
Landon Donovan (LW/RW) - NFS
Wilfried Zaha (RW) - U21 - NFS
Mario Mandzukic - NFS
Season 2 Transfers:
In
Stuart Armstrong (£1.77million - Dundee United)
Emilio Izaguirre (£10million - Celtic)
Mario Mandzukic (£10million - Wolfsburg)
Étienne Capoue (£11.5million - FC Toulouse)
Out
Stuart Armstrong (Loan - Dundee United) Until week 6
Michael Owen (£2million - Wigan)
Daniel Agger (£3.5m for season loan - Malaga)
Johan Djourou (£10m - Birmingham)
Mr Bojangles (£20m - Chelsea)
Other income:
Sponsor lump sum: £12million
5-a-side Cup: £1million
Daniel Agger loan: £3.5million
Win Bonus - Gameweek 3, 4 (£4m)
Nickname Index:
"Reliable" Rene Adler
Lars "Liability" Unnerstall
"Big Bad" Benedikt Howedes
"Tiny" Tim Hoogland
"Killer" Christoph Metzelder
Atsuto "Ultra" Uchida
Christian "Free-kick" Fuchs
"Serious" Shane Duffy
"Energetc" Emilio Izaguirre
Levan "Kicking" Kenia
"Wily" Axel Witsel
"Dodgy" Dániel Tőzsér
Charlie Adam - The Best Midfielder in The World
"Marvellous" Moritz Leitner
"Secretive" Scott Allan
"Amazing" Alan Dzagoev
Étienne "Capri-Sun" Capoue
"Big" Burak Yilmaz
Conor "Steve" McAleny
"Loaded" Landon Donovan
Wilfried "The Weasel" Zaha
Manager - Mr Long Leggy Cleggy Weggy
Assistant Manager - Chris Addison
Chairwoman - Mrs. Agnes Brown
Transfer budget of £34m
Sponsored by BMW
Initial sum: £12m
Bonus: £2m per win £500k per draw (All competitions)
Target: Top 2 finish
If met: £18m
GOALKEEPERS
Rene Adler - German - NFS
Lars Unnerstall - German
DEFENDERS
Benedikt Howedes (CB) - German - NFS under any circumstances (and Hero has first refusal on him anyway)
Tim Hoogland (RB) - German
Christoph Metzelder (CB) - German
Atsuto Uchida (RB) - NFS
Christian Fuchs (LB) - German - NreallyFS
Shane Duffy (CB) - U21
Emilio Izaguirre (LB) - NFS
MIDFIELDERS
Levan Kenia (AM)
Axel Witsel (AM/ RW) - NFS
Dániel Tőzsér (CM)
Charlie Adam (The Best Midfielder in The World) - NFS
Moritz Leitner (CM) - U21/German - NFS
Scott Allan (CM) - U21
Alan Dzagoev (CM) - NFS
Étienne Capoue (DM/CM) - NFS
FORWARDS
Burak Yilmaz (ST)
Conor McAleny (ST) - U21
Landon Donovan (LW/RW) - NFS
Wilfried Zaha (RW) - U21 - NFS
Mario Mandzukic - NFS
Season 2 Transfers:
In
Stuart Armstrong (£1.77million - Dundee United)
Emilio Izaguirre (£10million - Celtic)
Mario Mandzukic (£10million - Wolfsburg)
Étienne Capoue (£11.5million - FC Toulouse)
Out
Stuart Armstrong (Loan - Dundee United) Until week 6
Michael Owen (£2million - Wigan)
Daniel Agger (£3.5m for season loan - Malaga)
Johan Djourou (£10m - Birmingham)
Mr Bojangles (£20m - Chelsea)
- Spoiler:
- Season 1 Transfers
Transfers In:
Michael Owen (£5million - Releases)
Jamie Carragher (£8million - Juventus)
Adel Taarabt (£10million - QPR)
Dániel Tőzsér (£5million - Genk)
Barry Bannan (£13million - Aston Villa)
Charlie Adam (Jefferson Farfan + 300k)
Scott Allan (£500k - Dundee United)
Bojan (£24million - Roma)
Xherdan Shaqiri (£20million + Joel Matip - Fiorentina)
Burak Yilmaz (Andy Carroll + £8million - Malaga)
Conor McAleny (£250k - Releases)
Rene Adler (£11million - Arsenal)
Johann Djourou (£6million - Arsenal)
Landon Donovan, Shane Duffy and £150k (Demichelis - Everton)
Wilfried Zaha (£7million - Crystal Palace)
Transfers Out:
Hans Sarpei (200k - released)
Marco Reus (£16million - Porto)
Jefferson Farfan (Charlie Adam + 300k)
Andreas Wiegel (70k - Released)
Peer Kluge (£1.3million - Released)
Kyriakos Papadopolous (£7million - Porto)
Cicinho (£3million - Juventus)
Adel Taarabt (£17.5million - Lawyers)
Mathias Schober (£500k - Lawyers)
Teemu Pukki (Released - £650k)
Joel Matip + £20million (Xherdan Shaqiri - Fiorentina)
Jamie Carragher (£3m - Lawyers)
Ciprian Marica (£5.5m - Lawyers)
Andy Carroll (£8million and Yilmaz)
Gabriel Heinze (£1.1million - Arsenal)
Ralf Fahrmann (£4m - Lawyers)
Barry Bannan (£7m - Lawyers)
Khouma Babacar (£6m - Laywers)
Sergio Escudero (£225k - Released)
Alexander Baumjohann (£550k - Released)
Jermaine Jones (£2.2m - Released)
Jan Moravek (£1.6m - Released)
Xherdan Shaqiri (£22m - Lawyers)
Martin Demichelis (Landon Donovan, Shane Duffy and £150k)
Sergio Escudero (£225k - Released)
Alexander Baumjohann (£550k - Released)
Jermaine Jones (£2.2m - Released)
Jan Moravek (£1.6m - Released)
Mario Gavranovic, Ciprian Deac, Anthony Annan, Carlos Zambrano, V. Pliatsikas, Eduardo Gonçalves de Oliveira (£4.75m - Released)
Other income:
Sponsor lump sum: £12million
5-a-side Cup: £1million
Daniel Agger loan: £3.5million
Win Bonus - Gameweek 3, 4 (£4m)
Nickname Index:
"Reliable" Rene Adler
Lars "Liability" Unnerstall
"Big Bad" Benedikt Howedes
"Tiny" Tim Hoogland
"Killer" Christoph Metzelder
Atsuto "Ultra" Uchida
Christian "Free-kick" Fuchs
"Serious" Shane Duffy
"Energetc" Emilio Izaguirre
Levan "Kicking" Kenia
"Wily" Axel Witsel
"Dodgy" Dániel Tőzsér
Charlie Adam - The Best Midfielder in The World
"Marvellous" Moritz Leitner
"Secretive" Scott Allan
"Amazing" Alan Dzagoev
Étienne "Capri-Sun" Capoue
"Big" Burak Yilmaz
Conor "Steve" McAleny
"Loaded" Landon Donovan
Wilfried "The Weasel" Zaha
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The Special Juan- Posts : 20900
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Re: Schalke 04 (TSC)
i see you need a winger ive got anelka if you want him plays both rw/lw would cost around 9m ish
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Re: Schalke 04 (TSC)
Interested in Martin???
Him and Adam in the centre would be badmantastic
Him and Adam in the centre would be badmantastic
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Re: Schalke 04 (TSC)
Axel Witsel + Alan Dzagoev = Carroll + Ramirez
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Re: Schalke 04 (TSC)
Axel Witsel + Alan Dzagoev = Kleber + Ramirez
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Re: Schalke 04 (TSC)
Sandro is a starter for me so you would have to offer more money for him. I am willing to part with him for 18mill.
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Re: Schalke 04 (TSC)
I would deal on that. but the terms are that if you do not pay the remaining 3.5mill by the close of Monday then I will be allowed to buy any one of your players using the transfermarket.com player value in which you cannot decline.
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Re: Schalke 04 (TSC)
I am willing to take off the above terms if you pay an additional 2mill. So the full transfer fee would be 20mill. 14.5mill you pay now and 5.5mill you pay by the end of Monday. There would be no penalty for late payment of the 5.5mill.
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Re: Schalke 04 (TSC)
Christoph Metzelder 4M
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Re: Schalke 04 (TSC)
I've been on the phone to Reus and he's told me that big bad benedict has been crying to him that he wants to get to the Dragons ASAP. Let the poor lad realise his dream
Re: Schalke 04 (TSC)
That Reus has been chatting to his mate Howedes and Howedes has been telling him he wants to join a CL club like Porto asap and he wants you to give him his wish!
Re: Schalke 04 (TSC)
Im going to make a super duper offer because ive been drinking merry xmas btw
Howedes + Dzagoev + Donovan
for
Vertonghen + Gaitan + 15m
Howedes + Dzagoev + Donovan
for
Vertonghen + Gaitan + 15m
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To be fair i don't even remember making you that bid but oh well
Merry Christmas
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Re: Schalke 04 (TSC)
I know Howedes is not for sale, but;
Howedes to Everton
£15M, Dirk Kuyt and Mouhamadou Diarra to Schalke
ENQ
Gives you £15M towards a new CB, Dirk Kuyt who can play on the right of midfield or upfront, and a genuine DM in Diarra. The deal is easily worth £30M+ and although you're losing your best defender, this deal I think would improve your team as I saw you say to Hero that your side wasn't good in your opinion.
Howedes to Everton
£15M, Dirk Kuyt and Mouhamadou Diarra to Schalke
ENQ
Gives you £15M towards a new CB, Dirk Kuyt who can play on the right of midfield or upfront, and a genuine DM in Diarra. The deal is easily worth £30M+ and although you're losing your best defender, this deal I think would improve your team as I saw you say to Hero that your side wasn't good in your opinion.
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Re: Schalke 04 (TSC)
That's not a great excuse if i'm honest, if you leave then the person replacing you would have Kuyt, Diarra and an extra £15M!
But if it's a no, it's a no
But if it's a no, it's a no
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Re: Schalke 04 (TSC)
Alan Dzagoev - £12m + Maxi Rodriguez
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Re: Schalke 04 (TSC)
How about £13m plus Bilyaletdinov?
Russian for Russian, plus you get a LW!
Russian for Russian, plus you get a LW!
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Re: Schalke 04 (TSC)
Daniel Agger = Rasmus Elm
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Re: Schalke 04 (TSC)
So no deal involving Agger you would accept? Even if I offer another good CB?
Alessandro Gamberini + Giovani dos Santos = Agger
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Alessandro Gamberini + Giovani dos Santos = Agger
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Re: Schalke 04 (TSC)
Well put it this way. Dos Santos can play on the left, which you don't have at the moment. Even if you get a good TP, he is a good, young and versatile back up. Failing that you could get 3-4 Mil by releasing him!
Giving you the option for him simply because I can't stump up the equivalent cash
Alessandro Gamberini + Giovani dos Santos = Agger
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Giving you the option for him simply because I can't stump up the equivalent cash
Alessandro Gamberini + Giovani dos Santos = Agger
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Ok mate, let me know
I am prepared to add £3 Million in addition to sweeten the deal
I am prepared to add £3 Million in addition to sweeten the deal
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Re: Schalke 04 (TSC)
TSC, you have a Transfer budget of £26million
Lyon would like to offer you the following:
Michel Bastos = £26m
ENQ
Let me know if you want him
Lyon would like to offer you the following:
Michel Bastos = £26m
ENQ
Let me know if you want him
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OK ok,
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Re: Schalke 04 (TSC)
Shkodran Mustafi +Alessandro Gamberini + 4 Million = Agger
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Re: Schalke 04 (TSC)
Steven Taylor + Shkodran Mustafi + 3 Million = Agger
That is 14.5 Million that you would get for that lawyer offer.
ENQ......
That is 14.5 Million that you would get for that lawyer offer.
ENQ......
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Re: Schalke 04 (TSC)
I will offer more cash.....5.5 Million
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Yes I do lol.
Frankly I think Alessandro Gamberini is a better option for you as he is playing AND a captain. Plus he isn't injured. But I will do
Alessandro Gamberini + Shkodran Mustafi + 5.5 Million = Agger
Or
Steven Taylor + Shkodran Mustafi + 5.5 Million = Agger
ENQ
Frankly I think Alessandro Gamberini is a better option for you as he is playing AND a captain. Plus he isn't injured. But I will do
Alessandro Gamberini + Shkodran Mustafi + 5.5 Million = Agger
Or
Steven Taylor + Shkodran Mustafi + 5.5 Million = Agger
ENQ
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Re: Schalke 04 (TSC)
Or Djourou for Alessandro Gamberini straight swap
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Hello again.....
You want a good striker. I have Anelka and Bendtner. Anelka was brought for 9 Million. Still rated, even though he went to China. A good solid striker. Bendtner gets stick but he is a young international striker and playing in the PL regular.
Either those for Mr Agger.
ENQ
You want a good striker. I have Anelka and Bendtner. Anelka was brought for 9 Million. Still rated, even though he went to China. A good solid striker. Bendtner gets stick but he is a young international striker and playing in the PL regular.
Either those for Mr Agger.
ENQ
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Re: Schalke 04 (TSC)
I am a fan, but I am also looking for a CB with some pace to partner Dawson. His ability to be RB doesn't really appeal that much, as I think he is far better suited in the middle.
You don't have to be sorry mate. I want to do a deal, but only if both sides are happy. You wanted a CF so I offered you options. Exactly what I did originally by offering you CB alternatives.
Offers still stand. I might up the cash a little bit more, or give you some if you fancy a Bentdner + cash deal.
You don't have to be sorry mate. I want to do a deal, but only if both sides are happy. You wanted a CF so I offered you options. Exactly what I did originally by offering you CB alternatives.
Offers still stand. I might up the cash a little bit more, or give you some if you fancy a Bentdner + cash deal.
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Re: Schalke 04 (TSC)
Evening TSC, thought I'd test your resolve:
Dzagoev £17m
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Dzagoev £17m
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Re: Schalke 04 (TSC)
To be honest I don't think you need Agger as much as you think. You have two good CB's and a natural RB. With the money I would pay (as well as CB cover) you could upgrade your RB.
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Re: Schalke 04 (TSC)
Right....you can have your choice of any of my LB's plus Alessandro Gamberini PLUS cash for Agger.
So how much cash?
So how much cash?
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Alright
Think you might regret not taking the deal though. That was 15 Million plus on the table there in cash and talent. Hopefully I might still be up for the deal tomorrow, but I have TP's of my own in mind
Think you might regret not taking the deal though. That was 15 Million plus on the table there in cash and talent. Hopefully I might still be up for the deal tomorrow, but I have TP's of my own in mind
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Re: Schalke 04 (TSC)
I really want Agger and I really would like a deal today. You have me over a barrell over him lol
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Re: Schalke 04 (TSC)
Really want Agger-Do lol
If you want players and cash I can give you some. If you prefer straight cash I will release some players.
Your TP for Emilio Izaguirre is a negotiation (well done btw)......I can give you cash for Agger to get that deal confirmed
If you want players and cash I can give you some. If you prefer straight cash I will release some players.
Your TP for Emilio Izaguirre is a negotiation (well done btw)......I can give you cash for Agger to get that deal confirmed
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Re: Schalke 04 (TSC)
Well Agger pretty much completes my defence now, so I am happy to do whatever (within reason) to get the deal
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Ok mate, well done for getting him.
It depends what you want. If you want players, tell me which ones. If you want cash, then I will have to release some or get sales.
Only other thing is I would be willing to loan Agger from you so he is still your player and you can recall him if you need cover one week. I would be prepared to pay a fee for this
It depends what you want. If you want players, tell me which ones. If you want cash, then I will have to release some or get sales.
Only other thing is I would be willing to loan Agger from you so he is still your player and you can recall him if you need cover one week. I would be prepared to pay a fee for this
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Ok mate, get back to me
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6 Million???? For a loan deal???
I could get 6 Million easily but go out and buy someone lol!
I would give you 3 Million maximum for a loan deal. If you want more then it would have to be a normal deal for his services.
I could get 6 Million easily but go out and buy someone lol!
I would give you 3 Million maximum for a loan deal. If you want more then it would have to be a normal deal for his services.
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Right I will do 4 Million on the following conditions:
1. It is from now.
2. If you want to recall him, you will need to tell me now the exact player that needs to be injured, for you to want to recall him. (this protects me from you calling him back whenever)
For instance this is the loan deal I agreed with Nando today:
Toby Alderweireld
From: Arsenal
To: Malaga
Fee: 3 Million Loan Deal for Season
Condition: If Thomas Vermaelen is injured one week, Toby Alderweireld
will be recalled, and then returned the following week.
If you agree to these conditions, tell me the player that will have to be injured for a recall, and I will get you your money now.
1. It is from now.
2. If you want to recall him, you will need to tell me now the exact player that needs to be injured, for you to want to recall him. (this protects me from you calling him back whenever)
For instance this is the loan deal I agreed with Nando today:
Toby Alderweireld
From: Arsenal
To: Malaga
Fee: 3 Million Loan Deal for Season
Condition: If Thomas Vermaelen is injured one week, Toby Alderweireld
will be recalled, and then returned the following week.
If you agree to these conditions, tell me the player that will have to be injured for a recall, and I will get you your money now.
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Re: Schalke 04 (TSC)
Is Agger going to be in your first team then for it?
Ok......Loan deal 3.5 Million (i wanted him for my big game as well). Season long loan deal. To start after this weeks game. Injured player Howedes.
Deal?
Ok......Loan deal 3.5 Million (i wanted him for my big game as well). Season long loan deal. To start after this weeks game. Injured player Howedes.
Deal?
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Re: Schalke 04 (TSC)
Daniel Agger
From: Schalke
To: Malaga
Fee: 3.5 Million Loan Deal for Season. (Starting after Week 1 league match)
Condition: If Benedikt Howedes is injured one week, Daniel Agger will be recalled, and then returned the following week.
Confirmed.
I will give you the cash as soon as Mac answers my releases. I will let you know
From: Schalke
To: Malaga
Fee: 3.5 Million Loan Deal for Season. (Starting after Week 1 league match)
Condition: If Benedikt Howedes is injured one week, Daniel Agger will be recalled, and then returned the following week.
Confirmed.
I will give you the cash as soon as Mac answers my releases. I will let you know
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Re: Schalke 04 (TSC)
Ok man,
Add 3.5M to your bank balance
Add 3.5M to your bank balance
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Re: Schalke 04 (TSC)
Seen you £14m Giroud offer. Will get back to you, im considering it
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King Beer has bid £17m for Giroud mate
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