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Post by Scottrf Tue Nov 01, 2011 11:15 am

Anyone watching?

Highlights so far:

Orca's hunting seals
Bison steamrolling calf (Attenborough thought it was an accident but he stitched him)
Polar Bear fight
Ice movement and collapses
Sea Lion hunting penguins

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Post by Union Cane Tue Nov 01, 2011 11:25 am

Scottrf wrote:Sea Lion hunting penguins

Spoiler:
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Post by Michaels, Sean Tue Nov 01, 2011 11:28 am

watched a bit of it. didn't think sea lions killed penguins? bloody funny seeing the airtime they get from those waves though.
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Post by Scottrf Tue Nov 01, 2011 11:29 am

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Post by Union Cane Tue Nov 01, 2011 11:31 am

Oh, sea lion hunting penguins, I thought you meant sea lion hunting penguins.
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Post by Solerina Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:50 pm

I can't watch wildlife programmes....they're too upsetting Sad

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Post by AlexHuckerby Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:55 pm

im sure scott will more than likely love to take care of you!

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Post by Solerina Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:56 pm

AlexHuckerby wrote:im sure scott will more than likely love to take care of you!

L*l.....I'm sure he wouldn't!

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Post by Scottrf Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:03 pm

I think this Louis Theroux doc about exotic animals is more upsetting, half these people are morons.

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Post by Solerina Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:13 pm

Scottrf wrote:I think this Louis Theroux doc about exotic animals is more upsetting, half these people are morons.

Yes, Scott, I started to watch that, but turned it off after two minutes, those morons would have got me too wound up.

Louis was silly to let that chimp near him.....a tame, seemingly friendly, chimp can turn violent in an instant and literally rip your face off.
I'd have hated anything like that to happen to Louis....I usually watch all of his programmes but couldn't watch this one.

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Post by Scottrf Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:16 pm

The chimps part near the end is horrible. And the guy slapping the Lynx telling Louis it liked it...

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Post by AlexHuckerby Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:24 pm

it actually scared me for a second when that chimp came up and smashed the window!

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Post by Scottrf Wed Nov 02, 2011 8:58 pm

Bump as a reminder about this weeks.

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Post by 6oldenbhoy Wed Nov 02, 2011 9:07 pm

Cheers Scott, stuck it on sky+. How many episodes have there been thus far?

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Post by Scottrf Wed Nov 02, 2011 9:09 pm

This is the second of seven.

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Post by 6oldenbhoy Wed Nov 02, 2011 9:21 pm

No bother, I'll see if I can catch the first one on Iplayer before I watch this episode.

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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Wed Nov 02, 2011 10:00 pm

Those elephant seal fights are brutal.

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Post by BALTIMORA Thu Nov 03, 2011 9:31 am

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:Those elephant seal fights are brutal.
You should see an average Saturday night in Wolverhampton when Yates's kicks out...

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Post by BALTIMORA Thu Nov 03, 2011 9:35 am

Scottrf wrote:I think this Louis Theroux doc about exotic animals is more upsetting, half these people are morons.
Was he in America, by any chance?

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Post by The Galveston Giant Thu Nov 03, 2011 9:36 am

Scottrf wrote:I think this Louis Theroux doc about exotic animals is more upsetting, half these people are morons.

Has Theroux got a new one out or is this the hunting safari one?
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Post by Scottrf Thu Nov 03, 2011 9:38 am

BALTIMORA wrote:
Scottrf wrote:I think this Louis Theroux doc about exotic animals is more upsetting, half these people are morons.
Was he in America, by any chance?
Yeah.

Hunting Safari one? Don't think so, it's relatively new, last week I think.

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Post by BALTIMORA Thu Nov 03, 2011 9:47 am

Scottrf wrote:
BALTIMORA wrote:
Scottrf wrote:I think this Louis Theroux doc about exotic animals is more upsetting, half these people are morons.
Was he in America, by any chance?
Yeah.

Hunting Safari one? Don't think so, it's relatively new, last week I think.
Why am I not bowled over with surprise..? I quite like watching Louis Theroux. How he's not been shot yet is beyond me. I liked the one where he hung out with the black militants, and there was another one, where he was with some gangsta rappers which was quite good.

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Post by Scottrf Thu Nov 03, 2011 9:50 am

It's because of the stupid freedom ideal American's have, they think it's their right to own stupid animals, automatic weapons.

A chimp is not a pet. Nor is a black bear.

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Post by The Galveston Giant Thu Nov 03, 2011 9:59 am

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BALTIMORA wrote:
Scottrf wrote:I think this Louis Theroux doc about exotic animals is more upsetting, half these people are morons.
Was he in America, by any chance?
Yeah.

Hunting Safari one? Don't think so, it's relatively new, last week I think.

Brilliant, had only checked a few weeks back to see if he had anything new out, the hunting safari one is really good if anyone hasn't seen it.
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Post by BALTIMORA Thu Nov 03, 2011 10:05 am

Scottrf wrote:It's because of the stupid freedom ideal American's have, they think it's their right to own stupid animals, automatic weapons.

A chimp is not a pet. Nor is a black bear.
As a friend of mine once said: "never have a pet you can't kick the s*** out of". I'm of the same opinion as you; I think they make such a big issue out of their 'freedoms' that they find they kinda cut off their nose to spite their face at times. Gun crime isn't any huge mystery. 300 million people and about the same number of guns means that sooner or later, due to the laws of probability one of those guns will find itself in the hands of some unhinged lunatic wanting to kill people. Is it any coincidence that school shootings are practically a national pastime there?

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Post by AlexHuckerby Thu Nov 03, 2011 10:35 am

Louis Theroux is awesome, he always asks the right questions, which would usually provoke a reaction but he does it in such a manner that he manages to get away with it. Cool guy.

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Post by BALTIMORA Thu Nov 03, 2011 10:44 am

AlexHuckerby wrote:Louis Theroux is awesome, he always asks the right questions, which would usually provoke a reaction but he does it in such a manner that he manages to get away with it. Cool guy.
He's mastered that expression of "who, me?". The one with Eugene Terre-Blanche was good too. Might have to download some of his stuff actually. Louis Theroux that is, not the South African white supremacist fella.

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Post by AlexHuckerby Thu Nov 03, 2011 10:46 am

His venture into the pornography industry was very interesting, and the one where he was with "America's Most Hated Family" Such strange lives people lead.

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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Thu Nov 03, 2011 10:49 am

BALTIMORA wrote:
AlexHuckerby wrote:Louis Theroux is awesome, he always asks the right questions, which would usually provoke a reaction but he does it in such a manner that he manages to get away with it. Cool guy.
He's mastered that expression of "who, me?". The one with Eugene Terre-Blanche was good too. Might have to download some of his stuff actually. Louis Theroux that is, not the South African white supremacist fella.

The Terre-Blanche one was brilliant, the best ever in my opinion. Genuinely scary man, for all the wrong reasons. I like Theroux, but was disappointed in his first effort with those religious nutters who picket the soldiers funerals (can't remember their name). Keith Allen got more out of them by being obnoxious, Louis was a bit too soft in that one.

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Post by Fists of Fury Thu Nov 03, 2011 10:51 am

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Mind the windows Tino. wrote:Those elephant seal fights are brutal.
You should see an average Saturday night in Wolverhampton when Yates's kicks out...

Ha! I've had the pleasure of that particular Yates' before Balti, lovely establishment.

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Post by Rowley Thu Nov 03, 2011 10:53 am

Tina have read interviews with Theroux where he says his approach is not to give them an easy ride or play faux naive, his style is based on most of the people such as the Westboro baptist church and the white supremacists views are so repugnant you make them look ridiculous simply by giving them a forum to air their views sort of a give em enough rope approach.

His book is quite interesting, he catches up with a lot of the people who featured in weird weekends, including the white supremacists in the UK, is strange because he loses his laptop and one of the white supremacists goes out of his way to help him find it, odd that someone with such unpleasant views would extend him such kindness.

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Post by BALTIMORA Thu Nov 03, 2011 10:54 am

The Terre-Blanche episode had a definite tangible air of 'this could go horribly wrong', possibly more so than any of the gang/gangsta rapper/American religious nutters episodes. I thought the one where he was with the black militant headcases was good; they were basically telling him that every famous white person in history had really been black. Henry VIII? Black. Shakespeare? Black.

Also, Tino; the religious nutters are the Westboro Baptist Church I think, run by the Phelps family.


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Post by AlexHuckerby Thu Nov 03, 2011 10:55 am

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:
BALTIMORA wrote:
AlexHuckerby wrote:Louis Theroux is awesome, he always asks the right questions, which would usually provoke a reaction but he does it in such a manner that he manages to get away with it. Cool guy.
He's mastered that expression of "who, me?". The one with Eugene Terre-Blanche was good too. Might have to download some of his stuff actually. Louis Theroux that is, not the South African white supremacist fella.

The Terre-Blanche one was brilliant, the best ever in my opinion. Genuinely scary man, for all the wrong reasons. I like Theroux, but was disappointed in his first effort with those religious nutters who picket the soldiers funerals (can't remember their name). Keith Allen got more out of them by being obnoxious, Louis was a bit too soft in that one.

I thought that was fantastic, very interesting and such a strange family it was mind boggling...
The second time around I think 6 years later or something was also very interesting, they appeared to want to hide themselves and I'm not even sure they genuinely believed it anymore... So odd it was a tad creepy how a persons mind can be warped so much.

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Post by BALTIMORA Thu Nov 03, 2011 10:56 am

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Mind the windows Tino. wrote:Those elephant seal fights are brutal.
You should see an average Saturday night in Wolverhampton when Yates's kicks out...

Ha! I've had the pleasure of that particular Yates' before Balti, lovely establishment.
Much like most of the places in town. I've seen women of the larger variety kicking seven bells out of each other yet still trying to cling onto their takeaways. Salt of the earth, I tells ya.

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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Thu Nov 03, 2011 11:01 am

rowley wrote:Tina have read interviews with Theroux where he says his approach is not to give them an easy ride or play faux naive, his style is based on most of the people such as the Westboro baptist church and the white supremacists views are so repugnant you make them look ridiculous simply by giving them a forum to air their views sort of a give em enough rope approach.

His book is quite interesting, he catches up with a lot of the people who featured in weird weekends, including the white supremacists in the UK, is strange because he loses his laptop and one of the white supremacists goes out of his way to help him find it, odd that someone with such unpleasant views would extend him such kindness.

I might have to find his book then.

I appreciate what you're saying, and generally I like his style, and it is successful but Allen exposed one of them for having some kid out of wed-lock or something along those lines and got a really great reaction from them. Louis didn't even mention it when he first visited them.

Balti, The Terre-Blanche one did have a sinister feel to it. There was a moment when Theroux was in some tent with him and I genuinely thought he was going to get hurt. Terre-Blanche just had this cold, dispassionate, evil look on his face. The kind of look that ONETWO wears when he is out on a "hit".

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Post by BALTIMORA Thu Nov 03, 2011 11:07 am

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:
rowley wrote:Tina have read interviews with Theroux where he says his approach is not to give them an easy ride or play faux naive, his style is based on most of the people such as the Westboro baptist church and the white supremacists views are so repugnant you make them look ridiculous simply by giving them a forum to air their views sort of a give em enough rope approach.

His book is quite interesting, he catches up with a lot of the people who featured in weird weekends, including the white supremacists in the UK, is strange because he loses his laptop and one of the white supremacists goes out of his way to help him find it, odd that someone with such unpleasant views would extend him such kindness.

I might have to find his book then.

I appreciate what you're saying, and generally I like his style, and it is successful but Allen exposed one of them for having some kid out of wed-lock or something along those lines and got a really great reaction from them. Louis didn't even mention it when he first visited them.

Balti, The Terre-Blanche one did have a sinister feel to it. There was a moment when Theroux was in some tent with him and I genuinely thought he was going to get hurt. Terre-Blanche just had this cold, dispassionate, evil look on his face. The kind of look that ONETWO wears when he is out on a "hit".
Speaking of which, did they charge someone with Terre-Blanche's killing? I know that it's evident that nothing bad has happened because if it had we'd not be seeing the programme, but I agree that that particular episode was unsettling, most definitely.

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Post by Rowley Thu Nov 03, 2011 11:08 am

It's a fine line Tina, personally I tend to agree that it would be nice to see Theroux give some of them more of a kicking because he is certainly bright enough to do it but you sometimes can make yourself look a clown if you go too far, remember watching the guy on the BBC going mental at the Scientologists, he looked a bigger idiot than they did.

In his book he says the other thing people overlook is whilst a lot of the people who he interviews obviously hold horrible views they also take him into their homes, feed him let him interact with their families and sleep in their houses, he has to get the balance between challenging their views and not throwing this kindness back in their faces.

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Post by Scottrf Thu Nov 03, 2011 11:10 am

Also rowley, liberals like me and TRUSSY believe in ethical relativism.

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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Thu Nov 03, 2011 11:11 am

rowley wrote:
In his book he says the other thing people overlook is whilst a lot of the people who he interviews obviously hold horrible views they also take him into their homes, feed him let him interact with their families and sleep in their houses, he has to get the balance between challenging their views and not throwing this kindness back in their faces.

I am going to stick that on the Christmas list then, sounds a decent book. Unless someone wants to buy it for my birthday, which just so happens to be Saturday?

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Post by Rowley Thu Nov 03, 2011 11:14 am

Scottrf wrote:Also rowley, liberals like me and TRUSSY believe in ethical relativism.

Waingro believes much the same when it comes to Dempsey not fighting black fighters.

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Post by BALTIMORA Thu Nov 03, 2011 11:16 am

It's not Louis Theroux, but I found this documentary to be pretty chilling:

My Brother, the Islamist

And, to keep it vaguely on-topic for the boxing board, guess which extremist oik turned up in a couple of scenes..?

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Post by Rowley Thu Nov 03, 2011 11:18 am

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And, to keep it vaguely on-topic for the boxing board, guess which extremist oik turned up in a couple of scenes..?

Coxy?

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Post by BALTIMORA Thu Nov 03, 2011 11:21 am

rowley wrote:
BALTIMORA wrote:

And, to keep it vaguely on-topic for the boxing board, guess which extremist oik turned up in a couple of scenes..?

Coxy?
He might have done, but it depends if there was a PGA tournament that same week or a supermodel who needed servicing.

Scott, you are spot on. He's a horrid revolting little man, as were most of them in the programme. Definitely worth a watch.

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Post by coxy0001 Thu Nov 03, 2011 11:23 am

BALTIMORA wrote:
rowley wrote:
BALTIMORA wrote:

And, to keep it vaguely on-topic for the boxing board, guess which extremist oik turned up in a couple of scenes..?

Coxy?
He might have done, but it depends if there was a PGA tournament that same week or a supermodel who needed servicing.

Scott, you are spot on. He's a horrid revolting little man, as were most of them in the programme. Definitely worth a watch.

Neither, i was saving orphans from floods in Azbekistan

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Post by BALTIMORA Thu Nov 03, 2011 11:27 am

coxy0001 wrote:
BALTIMORA wrote:
rowley wrote:
BALTIMORA wrote:

And, to keep it vaguely on-topic for the boxing board, guess which extremist oik turned up in a couple of scenes..?

Coxy?
He might have done, but it depends if there was a PGA tournament that same week or a supermodel who needed servicing.

Scott, you are spot on. He's a horrid revolting little man, as were most of them in the programme. Definitely worth a watch.

Neither, i was saving orphans from floods in Azbekistan
You should watch the documentary in question, coxy. You'd love it and it would in no way send your blood pressure through the roof.

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Post by The Galveston Giant Thu Nov 03, 2011 11:29 am

BALTIMORA wrote:
Mind the windows Tino. wrote:
rowley wrote:Tina have read interviews with Theroux where he says his approach is not to give them an easy ride or play faux naive, his style is based on most of the people such as the Westboro baptist church and the white supremacists views are so repugnant you make them look ridiculous simply by giving them a forum to air their views sort of a give em enough rope approach.

His book is quite interesting, he catches up with a lot of the people who featured in weird weekends, including the white supremacists in the UK, is strange because he loses his laptop and one of the white supremacists goes out of his way to help him find it, odd that someone with such unpleasant views would extend him such kindness.

I might have to find his book then.

I appreciate what you're saying, and generally I like his style, and it is successful but Allen exposed one of them for having some kid out of wed-lock or something along those lines and got a really great reaction from them. Louis didn't even mention it when he first visited them.

Balti, The Terre-Blanche one did have a sinister feel to it. There was a moment when Theroux was in some tent with him and I genuinely thought he was going to get hurt. Terre-Blanche just had this cold, dispassionate, evil look on his face. The kind of look that ONETWO wears when he is out on a "hit".
Speaking of which, did they charge someone with Terre-Blanche's killing? I know that it's evident that nothing bad has happened because if it had we'd not be seeing the programme, but I agree that that particular episode was unsettling, most definitely.

I liked it when he went to shake hands and Terre-Blanche was squeezing his hand staring him down.
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Post by BALTIMORA Thu Nov 03, 2011 11:34 am

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rowley wrote:Tina have read interviews with Theroux where he says his approach is not to give them an easy ride or play faux naive, his style is based on most of the people such as the Westboro baptist church and the white supremacists views are so repugnant you make them look ridiculous simply by giving them a forum to air their views sort of a give em enough rope approach.

His book is quite interesting, he catches up with a lot of the people who featured in weird weekends, including the white supremacists in the UK, is strange because he loses his laptop and one of the white supremacists goes out of his way to help him find it, odd that someone with such unpleasant views would extend him such kindness.

I might have to find his book then.

I appreciate what you're saying, and generally I like his style, and it is successful but Allen exposed one of them for having some kid out of wed-lock or something along those lines and got a really great reaction from them. Louis didn't even mention it when he first visited them.

Balti, The Terre-Blanche one did have a sinister feel to it. There was a moment when Theroux was in some tent with him and I genuinely thought he was going to get hurt. Terre-Blanche just had this cold, dispassionate, evil look on his face. The kind of look that ONETWO wears when he is out on a "hit".
Speaking of which, did they charge someone with Terre-Blanche's killing? I know that it's evident that nothing bad has happened because if it had we'd not be seeing the programme, but I agree that that particular episode was unsettling, most definitely.

I liked it when he went to shake hands and Terre-Blanche was squeezing his hand staring him down.
People like that are living in a completely detached world from the rest of us.

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Yeah South Africa is a crazy place.
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Post by coxy0001 Thu Nov 03, 2011 11:59 am

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And, to keep it vaguely on-topic for the boxing board, guess which extremist oik turned up in a couple of scenes..?

Coxy?
He might have done, but it depends if there was a PGA tournament that same week or a supermodel who needed servicing.

Scott, you are spot on. He's a horrid revolting little man, as were most of them in the programme. Definitely worth a watch.

Neither, i was saving orphans from floods in Azbekistan
You should watch the documentary in question, coxy. You'd love it and it would in no way send your blood pressure through the roof.

What's the documentary in question? I can't be bothered to scroll up. Am on a tiny window at work as the orifice, sorry office, is full today.

And i'm calmness personified... unflappable etc. Am sure i'll be fine.

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