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Post by Gregers Wed 02 Nov 2011, 11:42 am

An idea I just had:

Basically we follow on from our "greatest lists" by setting up a virtual Hall of Fame for the best of the best. Do something like 10 inductions for the first month and then a few a month from then on?

We take it in turns to put forward who we believe should be in the Hall of Fame. This can be due to averages, runs scored, wickets taken, what they did for the sport etc.

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Post by ShankyCricket Wed 02 Nov 2011, 11:44 am

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Post by Fists of Fury Wed 02 Nov 2011, 11:45 am

https://www.606v2.com/t5636-the-606v2-hall-of-fame

See the boxing one, this is the best thread I have ever taken part in on 606v2, an absolute wealth of knowledge. So, if such a thing is to take place with cricket, it'd need to be of a similar quality to this in order to do it justice.

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Post by Gregers Wed 02 Nov 2011, 11:48 am

I'm sure we have enough members on the cricket section to get something like this going. Although obviously the nominations would have to be properly discussed.

Bradman, Grace, Sachin, Warne get in automatically IMO

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Post by ShankyCricket Wed 02 Nov 2011, 11:49 am

OK on a serious note,Sachin has to be there in the Hall of Fame.

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Post by ShankyCricket Wed 02 Nov 2011, 11:49 am

Not sure Grace would be that automatic tbh.Hobbs,Hammond,Gavaskar should be ahead of him IMO.

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Post by rich1uk Wed 02 Nov 2011, 11:50 am

while i am not disputing tendulkar's record i dont think someone should qualify for something like this while they are still an active player

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Post by Gregers Wed 02 Nov 2011, 11:50 am

For what Grace did for the game he would have to be in my opinion.

I'd say that Sachin would be the exception to that rich.

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Post by Fists of Fury Wed 02 Nov 2011, 11:51 am

Similar to the boxing one, we would have to draw up a list of say 10 that get in automatically.

Also, those that are still playing cannot be considered for obvious reasons - in that their record may improve or decline rapidly.

Not very easy with cricket this, given that there are so many more boxers than world class cricketers. Really each team only has one or two players that would be hall of fame worthy, whereas in boxing there are stacks of weight divisions that have all had plenty of hall of fame worthy fighters.

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Post by ShankyCricket Wed 02 Nov 2011, 11:52 am

Gregers wrote:For what Grace did for the game he would have to be in my opinion.

I'd say that Sachin would be the exception to that rich.
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I am not saying Grace shouldnt be there.Just said there are a few guys who should be ahead of him IMO.

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Post by Gregers Wed 02 Nov 2011, 11:54 am

Surely those at the end of their careers can still be considered Fists?

Sachin and Dravid's records aren't exactly going to suddenly decline. But apart from those two I don't think there's many players that are still playing who I would think of being in a hall of fame (playing part time in the IPL doesn't count as still playing IMO)

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Post by Fists of Fury Wed 02 Nov 2011, 11:54 am

After thinking about it, I don't think this is something that would have much legs.

Cricket has far too few great players outside of the initial names that we would come up with, and also plenty of those players are still playing today, and thus would be excluded.

Maybe something for a few years time when the current generation are retired.

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Post by ShankyCricket Wed 02 Nov 2011, 11:55 am

Gregers wrote:Surely those at the end of their careers can still be considered Fists?

Sachin and Dravid's records aren't exactly going to suddenly decline. But apart from those two I don't think there's many players that are still playing who I would think of being in a hall of fame (playing part time in the IPL doesn't count as still playing IMO)
We are talking about Tests arent we?So the IPL is pretty much pointless in this discussion.

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Post by Gregers Wed 02 Nov 2011, 11:56 am

Again I didn't mention just test, ODI greats could also be inducted.

Gilly for example

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Post by ShankyCricket Wed 02 Nov 2011, 11:58 am

Gregers wrote:Again I didn't mention just test, ODI greats could also be inducted.

Gilly for example
TBH Gilly was a better Test player than an ODI one.At least average wise.

Do you think someone like Bevan could be inducted in this list?I dont think so.

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Post by Guest Wed 02 Nov 2011, 11:59 am

Bradman, and sachin would have to be first names inducted into a hall of fame.

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Post by Gregers Wed 02 Nov 2011, 12:00 pm

Bevan was quality, although maybe not HOF quality.

Rhodes could be solely for changing fielding

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Post by ShankyCricket Wed 02 Nov 2011, 12:00 pm

Gregers wrote:Bevan was quality, although maybe not HOF quality.

Rhodes could be solely for changing fielding
Agree about Jonty thumbsup

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Post by Stella Wed 02 Nov 2011, 12:04 pm

Bradman and Sobers would be my two first through the door.
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Post by ShankyCricket Wed 02 Nov 2011, 12:05 pm

Kallis thumbsup

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Post by ShankyCricket Wed 02 Nov 2011, 12:07 pm

Hadlee for carrying the Kiwis attack in the 80s.

Imran for his inspirational leadership in the 92 WC no to mention the fact that he was a great all rounder.

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Post by Hoggy_Bear Wed 02 Nov 2011, 12:08 pm

Grace, Hobbs, Bradman, Sobers, Tendulkar would be my top 5 for inclusion

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Post by Stella Wed 02 Nov 2011, 12:09 pm

Warne would be in my top 5.
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Post by Fists of Fury Wed 02 Nov 2011, 12:10 pm

This is getting very messy.

Let me have a think about the best way to go about this. Like I say, it'd need to be similar in format to that of the boxing hall of fame, as that is tremendous. Transparent, fool-proof and accurate.

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Post by ShankyCricket Wed 02 Nov 2011, 12:12 pm

Ok Fists Smile


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Post by Stella Wed 02 Nov 2011, 12:12 pm

Would it not be best if posters nominate their top 10 in order and Gregers calculates the thread after a certain date?
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Post by Fists of Fury Wed 02 Nov 2011, 12:13 pm

Stella, we'll do it like the boxing one, such a task deserves the thought and effort. Will draft up a post later outlining the guidelines to everyone for how voting works etc.

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Post by ShankyCricket Wed 02 Nov 2011, 12:14 pm

Thanks mate Very Happy

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Post by Gregers Wed 02 Nov 2011, 12:14 pm

Cheers Fists

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Post by Fists of Fury Wed 02 Nov 2011, 12:15 pm

That ok with you Gregers? If you don't mind, you could run it once it is up and running i.e. counting up the votes and letting us know who made it in etc.

I'll PM you about it tonight probably.

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Post by Gregers Wed 02 Nov 2011, 12:17 pm

I dont mind if you want to run it fists, was only an idea lol

But yeah pm me later mate

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Post by ShankyCricket Wed 02 Nov 2011, 12:17 pm

If you guys need any help regarding this,plz feel free to PM me thumbsup

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Post by Guest Wed 02 Nov 2011, 12:18 pm

or do u mean to take over the running of it Whistle

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Post by Fists of Fury Wed 02 Nov 2011, 12:18 pm

No, no, I don't want to run it, haha. You suggested it, and plus I probably wouldn't find time.

I just want to make sure we set it up properly, however, in order to do it justice.

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Post by ShankyCricket Wed 02 Nov 2011, 12:18 pm

cricketfan90 wrote:or do u mean to take over the running of it Whistle
Grow up

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Post by Guest Wed 02 Nov 2011, 12:18 pm

na not u fists, i was talking about shanky

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Post by Fists of Fury Wed 02 Nov 2011, 12:19 pm

Looks like we all got our wires crossed there...I was talking to Gregers, haha.

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Post by Gregers Wed 02 Nov 2011, 12:20 pm

Totally agree with you Fists mate, this needs to be done properly otherwise it'll just descend into anarchy!

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Post by ShankyCricket Wed 02 Nov 2011, 12:20 pm

Gregers wrote:Totally agree with you Fists mate, this needs to be done properly otherwise it'll just descend into anarchy!
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Post by ShankyCricket Wed 02 Nov 2011, 12:21 pm

CF there is a difference between running it and helping a person out who runs it.


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Post by jro786 Wed 02 Nov 2011, 12:21 pm

lara must be in there 400 not out anyone?
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Post by Biltong Wed 02 Nov 2011, 12:21 pm

Fists of Fury wrote:This is getting very messy.

Let me have a think about the best way to go about this. Like I say, it'd need to be similar in format to that of the boxing hall of fame, as that is tremendous. Transparent, fool-proof and accurate.

Perhaps it would be a good idea to do a hall of fame per country. you often find popular opinion isn't enough as the representation from posters vary a lot from country to country.

For SA I propose.

Greame Pollock
Eddie Barlow
Jacques Kallis

There are some others, but my mind draws a blank right now.
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Post by Guest Wed 02 Nov 2011, 12:22 pm

shanky i was just referring to something that happened yesterday,

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Post by ShankyCricket Wed 02 Nov 2011, 12:23 pm

cricketfan90 wrote:shanky i was just referring to something that happened yesterday,
That has got nothing to do with this CF
BTW I think there has been a misunderstanding yesterday.Will PM you now regarding it just to sort it out.

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Post by Stella Wed 02 Nov 2011, 12:25 pm

erhaps it would be a good idea to do a hall of fame per country. you often find popular opinion isn't enough as the representation from posters vary a lot from country to country

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I would prefer one big hall of fame. Remember, not all nominees will be Cricketers (Duckworth, Lewis).
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Post by Fists of Fury Wed 02 Nov 2011, 12:26 pm

Yeah, it'll be one big hall of fame. I'll post the rules, criteria etc up later on.

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Post by ShankyCricket Wed 02 Nov 2011, 12:31 pm

PM for you CF thumbsup
Hope that clears up all the confusion Smile

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Post by Fists of Fury Wed 02 Nov 2011, 12:56 pm

OK guys take a look at the thread I have stickied.

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Post by anu_d Thu 03 Nov 2011, 8:08 pm

Ken Barrington..for obvious reasons

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