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Post by hawkeye Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:31 am

No Nadal and Djokovic looking increasingly doubtful to play is it time for Federer to add a new trophy to his collection?

The Times reports that Murray is "surprised" by the courts. Describing the surface like this “It is very, very slow,” Murray said.
I'm not sure if Murray was surprised in a good or bad way. As for Federer he has never done well in Paris when the surface was super fast so maybe he'll enjoy a slightly slower surface.

If you want to read the full article you will have to pay to view. I'm beginning to think I should ask for commision from The Times as I recommend the site so often...

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Post by bogbrush Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:32 am

This news may bring Nadal back to the event. That is, unless he's still strapped to the medical table like Boris Karloff with the various gizmos hard at work.
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Post by Tenez Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:33 am

The surface in Paris was always very slow bar last year for some reasons.

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Post by legendkillar Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:42 am

Using the trusty Times again I see.

Now

1. Would you have bothered had Nadal been scheduled to play with this article?

2. Who will be seeded 3 and 4 given that Murray and Federer will be 1&2 which will be the burning question and who will be replacing Nadal and Djokovic?

These for me could at least have some form of importance and merit.

And no you don't deserve commission as you do a half arsed job with quotes anyway!

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Post by wow Mon Nov 07, 2011 10:15 am

bogbrush wrote:This news may bring Nadal back to the event. That is, unless he's still strapped to the medical table like Boris Karloff with the various gizmos hard at work.
laughing laughing laughing

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Post by time please Mon Nov 07, 2011 10:28 am

the article from the Times is really about Djokovic's injury and TMF's emotional victory in Basel yesterday. The last paragraph is about Murray, but the context begins in relation to Fed's chances. I've typed the last para for the pedants among you all Wink Hug , but it was exhausting I'll have you know, because Hawkeye is right - you can't cut and paste or link because the miserly Times needs you to have subscripted like wot I have! I agree that it isn't really clear whether Murray is pleased with the court speed or disappointed, though I would guess the fact that he said 'very, very slow' instead of 'slow' indicates a level of disappointment, what do you all think?

From the Times:

With no Nadal and possibly no Djokovic, the threat to Federer is likely to come from Andy Murray, who professed surprise yesterday that the surface at Bercy is completely different from the faster-paced court they laid for the tournament a year ago. "It is very, very slow" said Murray.

The Scot plays either Marcel Granollers of Spain, winner of Valencia Open yesterday, or Jeremy Chardy, of France, in his opening Match.

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Post by noleisthebest Mon Nov 07, 2011 10:29 am

bogbrush wrote:This news may bring Nadal back to the event. That is, unless he's still strapped to the medical table like Boris Karloff with the various gizmos hard at work.

here's a sneek preview Run
http://www.also-known-as.net/films/the_body_shop/the_body_shop1.jpg

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Post by lydian Mon Nov 07, 2011 12:06 pm

Isnt that what Nole wraps himself up in every night as he climbs into his egg chamber?

http://www.luxurylaunches.com/entry_images/0811/31/egg-shaped-pressurized-oxygen-chamber-1.jpg
http://blog.oregonlive.com/tennis/2011/08/novak_djokovic_and_tennis_orgasmatron.html
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Post by noleisthebest Mon Nov 07, 2011 12:16 pm

lydian wrote:Isnt that what Nole wraps himself up in every night as he climbs into his egg chamber?

http://www.luxurylaunches.com/entry_images/0811/31/egg-shaped-pressurized-oxygen-chamber-1.jpg
http://blog.oregonlive.com/tennis/2011/08/novak_djokovic_and_tennis_orgasmatron.html

Lydian,
I thought you liked to be perceived as a "moderate" Nadal fan laughing

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Post by bogbrush Mon Nov 07, 2011 12:25 pm

I found this quote interesting;

Tennis magazine's Steve Tignor points out that it's within the rules for Djokovic to use the superpod, but he also rightly adds that the World Anti-Doping Agency, while not banning such oxygen chambers, has called them "against the spirit of sport."

You don't hear much about that!
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Post by Guest Mon Nov 07, 2011 12:35 pm

It's a real shame if Bercy plays really slow this year.

I thought last year's tourney was one of the best masters 1000's of the year.

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Post by noleisthebest Mon Nov 07, 2011 12:46 pm

bogbrush wrote:I found this quote interesting;

Tennis magazine's Steve Tignor points out that it's within the rules for Djokovic to use the superpod, but he also rightly adds that the World Anti-Doping Agency, while not banning such oxygen chambers, has called them "against the spirit of sport."

You don't hear much about that!

Yeah, shame the egg didn't help much in the last 6 weeks....As for S. Tignor, the biggest Nadal fan out there, still not a boo from him (ever) on all the treatments Nadal received.

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Post by Tenez Mon Nov 07, 2011 12:57 pm

I thought Tignor was a big Federer fan actually.

It's interesting to see that WADA is not capable of ruling against those machines which in effect has the same role as going and train in altitude ...as well as epo....or even taking extra time between points. The purpose being to increase blood cells carrying O2.

This is why at the end of the day, the PED problem is sorted by lawyers and not science really as a good talk can justify anything.


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Post by noleisthebest Mon Nov 07, 2011 1:07 pm

Tenez wrote:I thought Tignor was a big Federer fan actually.

It's interesting to see that WADA is not capable of ruling against those machines which in effect has the sale role as going and train in altitude ...as well as epo....or even taking extra time between points. The purpose being to increase blood cells carrying O2.

This is why at the end of the day, the PED problem is sorted by lawyers and not science really as a good talk can justify anything.

NO he isn't. He used to be, though.

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Post by Calder106 Mon Nov 07, 2011 1:16 pm

time please wrote:the article from the Times is really about Djokovic's injury and TMF's emotional victory in Basel yesterday. The last paragraph is about Murray, but the context begins in relation to Fed's chances. I've typed the last para for the pedants among you all Wink Hug , but it was exhausting I'll have you know, because Hawkeye is right - you can't cut and paste or link because the miserly Times needs you to have subscripted like wot I have! I agree that it isn't really clear whether Murray is pleased with the court speed or disappointed, though I would guess the fact that he said 'very, very slow' instead of 'slow' indicates a level of disappointment, what do you all think?

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Post by Tenez Mon Nov 07, 2011 2:56 pm

I wanted Cilic over Verdasco but nevermind.

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Post by hawkeye Mon Nov 07, 2011 2:58 pm

Calder106

I never misquoted but of course I will "cherry pick" what I find interesting.

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Post by time please Mon Nov 07, 2011 4:47 pm

Calder106 wrote:
time please wrote:the article from the Times is really about Djokovic's injury and TMF's emotional victory in Basel yesterday. The last paragraph is about Murray, but the context begins in relation to Fed's chances. I've typed the last para for the pedants among you all Wink Hug , but it was exhausting I'll have you know, because Hawkeye is right - you can't cut and paste or link because the miserly Times needs you to have subscripted like wot I have! I agree that it isn't really clear whether Murray is pleased with the court speed or disappointed, though I would guess the fact that he said 'very, very slow' instead of 'slow' indicates a level of disappointment, what do you all think?

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lol Calder - you really don't need to grovel Laugh ! I did put in lots of smileys so I assumed everyone would know I was teasing! BTW, my what do you all think at the end was a genuine question, even if it probably did have a slightly obvious answer.

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Post by lydian Mon Nov 07, 2011 4:56 pm

NITB, my article didnt refer to Nadal.
Exactly Tenez, and as there's only 20 machines in the world its not exactly a level playing field for all players to access and use them. Besides, can a PED be a performance enhancing drug or device?
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Post by break_in_the_fifth Mon Nov 07, 2011 5:53 pm

I guess the D could stand for either.

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Post by Calder106 Mon Nov 07, 2011 7:08 pm

"I agree that it isn't really clear whether Murray is pleased with the court speed or disappointed, though I would guess the fact that he said 'very, very slow' instead of 'slow' indicates a level of disappointment, what do you all think?"

I would agree that he is disappointed if it is really slow. He quite often talks about getting cheap points from good first serves when the courts are faster so think that would be a frustration for him.

Btw I notice that he played (and won a doubles match partnering Ross Hutchins today. So looks like the injury has cleared up and he is getting some court time so won't go into his first singles match cold.


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Post by time please Mon Nov 07, 2011 10:29 pm

Yes, I saw that he and Hutchins had won their match clap

He didn't sound unduly perturbed by his pain in the butt, so I didn't think it was going to be debilitating for too long.

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