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Post by Adam D Thu 10 Nov 2011, 8:56 pm

Just had a look around and Paddy Power are still offering a matched bet of £50

Paddy Power free bet link

Opening an account through the link helps out with the costs folks OK

Anyway the odds:



Boxing Match Betting
Manny Pacquiao
1/12
Draw
33/1
Juan Manuel Marquez
7/1

Head to Head
Manny Pacquiao
1/12
Juan Manuel Marquez
11/2

Round Betting
Manny Pacquiao To Win in Round 1
20/1
Draw
25/1
Juan Manuel Marquez To Win in Round 1
60/1
Manny Pacquiao To Win in Round 2
20/1
Juan Manuel Marquez To Win in Round 2
60/1
Manny Pacquiao To Win in Round 3
18/1
Juan Manuel Marquez To Win in Round 3
60/1
Manny Pacquiao To Win in Round 4
18/1
Juan Manuel Marquez To Win in Round 4
60/1
Manny Pacquiao To Win in Round 5
18/1
Juan Manuel Marquez To Win in Round 5
60/1
Manny Pacquiao To Win in Round 6
16/1
Juan Manuel Marquez To Win in Round 6
60/1
Manny Pacquiao To Win in Round 7
16/1
Juan Manuel Marquez To Win in Round 7
60/1
Manny Pacquiao To Win in Round 8
16/1
Juan Manuel Marquez To Win in Round 8
60/1
Manny Pacquiao To Win in Round 9
16/1
Juan Manuel Marquez To Win in Round 9
60/1
Manny Pacquiao To Win in Round 10
16/1
Juan Manuel Marquez To Win in Round 10
60/1
Manny Pacquiao To Win in Round 11
16/1
Juan Manuel Marquez To Win in Round 11
60/1
Manny Pacquiao To Win in Round 12
14/1
Juan Manuel Marquez To Win in Round 12
60/1

Total Rounds
Under 9.5
evens
Over 9.5
8/11

Group Round Betting
Manny Pacquiao Round 1-3
11/2
Juan Manuel Marquez Round 1-3
22/1
Manny Pacquiao Round 4-6
11/2
Juan Manuel Marquez Round 4-6
22/1
Manny Pacquiao Round 7-9
5/1
Juan Manuel Marquez Round 7-9
22/1
Manny Pacquiao Round 10-12
5/1
Juan Manuel Marquez Round 10-12
22/1

Method of Victory
Manny Pacquiao Points or Decision
13/8
Draw
25/1
Juan Manuel Marquez Points or Decision
14/1
Manny Pacquiao KO/TKO
4/6
Juan Manuel Marquez KO/TKO
14/1

Will the Fight go the Distance
Yes
6/5
No
8/13

remember - we are not encouraging you to bet, just providing the odds. Always gamble responsibly.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Thu 10 Nov 2011, 9:05 pm

No value at all in Marquez Mate...

I gave him 10 rounds of the first fight and he got a draw....

Didn't have the power to stop Manny before and he's faded now......and he can't win by decision...

Round betting is most profitable for this fight.....

Can see an early to mid-stoppage..

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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Thu 10 Nov 2011, 9:24 pm

There is only one bet that counts on Saturday night.

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Post by Adam D Thu 10 Nov 2011, 9:27 pm

The odds are with you Tino!

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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Thu 10 Nov 2011, 9:31 pm

Adam D (Hobo) wrote:The odds are with you Tino!

I'd like to think I have the backing of the board as well.

I am almost tempted to wager some money on Manny inside 6 then if the unlikely happens I will have some money to spend during my ban!

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Post by Ironmiketyson1984 Thu 10 Nov 2011, 10:13 pm

I fancy a fiver on the draw at 25/1

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Post by PPVxHOTTY Thu 10 Nov 2011, 10:15 pm

Im no expert with predictions Smile but Im pretty sure the fight wont last long, gonna put £50 on Manny between rounds 4-6!!

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Post by Unbeatable Georgey Groves Fri 11 Nov 2011, 10:10 am

Tomorrow is the big fight featuring one of the biggest names in the sport. I personally think it will be a wide UD for Manny with a few knockdowns along the way. However the size difference may not be a factor as Marquez has bulked up incredibly and after Mannys performance against Mosley is his bogeyman going to trouble him again....
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Post by coxy0001 Fri 11 Nov 2011, 10:11 am

Manny early

Bet your house on it.

Me and Tino have a 1 week ban at stake if he doesn't knock Marquez out inside 6. I'm not sure what i'd do with a week off here, might have to do some work for once. Alternatively i'm not sure the board would cope well with my constant boasting and general arrogance on the matter Wink

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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Fri 11 Nov 2011, 10:14 am

I think a wide UD for Manny although I think JMM will do enough to bank a few rounds. Wouldn't be surprised to see him on the floor but I think he is cute enough to survive to the end.

It won't finish inside 6 rounds.

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Post by Fists of Fury Fri 11 Nov 2011, 10:14 am

Manny UD, for me.

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Post by Unbeatable Georgey Groves Fri 11 Nov 2011, 10:17 am

Marquez has never been stopped, what makes you think this one will be different?

An increase in Manny's power or decrease of Marquez's heart? I think the only way you will be right is if the ref stops it because Marquez will not quit!
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Post by Scottrf Fri 11 Nov 2011, 10:18 am

Unbeatable Georgey Groves wrote:Marquez has never been stopped, what makes you think this one will be different?
He's never faced someone like Pacquiao.


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Post by Michaels, Sean Fri 11 Nov 2011, 10:21 am

If it's a DRAW, can both Tonto and Coxy be banned for a week?
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Post by Scottrf Fri 11 Nov 2011, 10:22 am

Michaels, Sean wrote:If it's a DRAW, can both Tonto and Coxy be banned for a week?
Not Tina, she just bet against it ending in a Pacquiao win in the first 6.

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Post by coxy0001 Fri 11 Nov 2011, 10:24 am

Unbeatable Georgey Groves wrote:Marquez has never been stopped, what makes you think this one will be different?

An increase in Manny's power or decrease of Marquez's heart? I think the only way you will be right is if the ref stops it because Marquez will not quit!

Because he's been dropped by a lightweight, wobbled by lightweights and dropped by a relatively light punching welterweight. Yes he rose, but i feel that because he'll keep on fighting Pacquiao will finish him off. He won't get on his bike like Cotto/Mosley did.

And Manny is punching much harder than he did when they met the first 2 times... He went down 4 times in 2 fights and has been going down/struggling early in recent times as well. Manny puts him down then brutally stops him in my eyes. Also had £10 on each of the first 3 rounds to supplement my original bet of covering both 1-3 and 4-6

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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Fri 11 Nov 2011, 10:25 am

Scottrf wrote:
Michaels, Sean wrote:If it's a DRAW, can both Tonto and Coxy be banned for a week?
Not Tina, she just bet against it ending in a Pacquiao win in the first 6.

Only after Coxy had wriggled out of his bombastic prediction of a "knocked out cold" 2 rounder for Manny. I have already made allowances in this bet.

I really want to call him a name but I am trying to be respectful.

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Post by coxy0001 Fri 11 Nov 2011, 10:30 am

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:
Scottrf wrote:
Michaels, Sean wrote:If it's a DRAW, can both Tonto and Coxy be banned for a week?
Not Tina, she just bet against it ending in a Pacquiao win in the first 6.

Only after Coxy had wriggled out of his bombastic prediction of a "knocked out cold" 2 rounder for Manny. I have already made allowances in this bet.

I really want to call him a name but I am trying to be respectful.

Remember we're playing nicely now, i've PMd Windy saying sorry and asking if we can have our ball back... Maybe you can do the same and we can have our beloved trash talk section back.

Can you imagine how modest i'll be if he does knock him out inside 3 though?

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Post by Unbeatable Georgey Groves Fri 11 Nov 2011, 10:33 am

coxy0001 wrote:
Unbeatable Georgey Groves wrote:Marquez has never been stopped, what makes you think this one will be different?

An increase in Manny's power or decrease of Marquez's heart? I think the only way you will be right is if the ref stops it because Marquez will not quit!

Because he's been dropped by a lightweight, wobbled by lightweights and dropped by a relatively light punching welterweight. Yes he rose, but i feel that because he'll keep on fighting Pacquiao will finish him off. He won't get on his bike like Cotto/Mosley did.

And Manny is punching much harder than he did when they met the first 2 times... He went down 4 times in 2 fights and has been going down/struggling early in recent times as well. Manny puts him down then brutally stops him in my eyes. Also had £10 on each of the first 3 rounds to supplement my original bet of covering both 1-3 and 4-6

I do think this will be a different fight from the first two and will be more controlled with the occassional simultaneous flurry every other round or so. So if Marquez trades less with Manny and keeps moving then he won't be troubled nearly as much with the straight left which was the problem punch for him
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Post by sodhat Fri 11 Nov 2011, 10:35 am

I think Marquez will be stopped, probably on his feet, any time after the 7th.

Coxy almost won me over with his EKO predicitons. Whatever you say about his 'bombast', he at least brought some salient points forward, and I don't think it's an impossibility.

I wouldn't bet any of my own money on it though, especially not a couple of hundred. Nutter.

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Post by Michaels, Sean Fri 11 Nov 2011, 10:39 am

coxy0001 wrote:
Mind the windows Tino. wrote:
Scottrf wrote:
Michaels, Sean wrote:If it's a DRAW, can both Tonto and Coxy be banned for a week?
Not Tina, she just bet against it ending in a Pacquiao win in the first 6.

Only after Coxy had wriggled out of his bombastic prediction of a "knocked out cold" 2 rounder for Manny. I have already made allowances in this bet.

I really want to call him a name but I am trying to be respectful.

Remember we're playing nicely now, i've PMd Windy saying sorry and asking if we can have our ball back... Maybe you can do the same and we can have our beloved trash talk section back.

Can you imagine how modest i'll be if he does knock him out inside 3 though?

Had a butcher's at the dew drop inn or whatever it's called on the rugby forum. Seems a lot less heavy handed in terms of moderation. They are having a bit of a love in over there though and most of the banter is probably just foreplay.
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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Fri 11 Nov 2011, 10:40 am

sodhat wrote:
he at least brought some salient points forward

Not about "knocking him out cold" in 2 round he didn't. I can see the possibilty of JMM being stopped, of course it could happen, Manny is a terrific fighter and very hard puncher, I just don't see it. "knocked out cold" in 2 rounds though? His words. JMM is not Ricky Hatton.

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Post by Scottrf Fri 11 Nov 2011, 10:41 am

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:
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he at least brought some salient points forward

Not about "knocking him out cold" in 2 round he didn't. I can see the possibilty of JMM being stopped, of course it could happen, Manny is a terrific fighter and very hard puncher, I just don't see it. "knocked out cold" in 2 rounds though? His words. JMM is not Ricky Hatton.
Ricky Hatton wasn't the Ricky Hatton of the Pacquiao fight until he became Ricky Hatton of the Pacquiao fight.

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Post by coxy0001 Fri 11 Nov 2011, 10:43 am

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:
sodhat wrote:
he at least brought some salient points forward

Not about "knocking him out cold" in 2 round he didn't. I can see the possibilty of JMM being stopped, of course it could happen, Manny is a terrific fighter and very hard puncher, I just don't see it. "knocked out cold" in 2 rounds though? His words. JMM is not Ricky Hatton.

Are you going to be on here during the fight/build-up? Am gonna be coming on, which i'm sure after a skin full the admins will be relishing the thought of.


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Post by sodhat Fri 11 Nov 2011, 10:46 am

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:
sodhat wrote:
he at least brought some salient points forward

Not about "knocking him out cold" in 2 round he didn't. I can see the possibilty of JMM being stopped, of course it could happen, Manny is a terrific fighter and very hard puncher, I just don't see it. "knocked out cold" in 2 rounds though? His words. JMM is not Ricky Hatton.

No, I agree absolutely. That's why I personally went with him being stopped on his feet by the ref -- I don't see him being sparked or staying down if he does go down.

But I did have just a few seconds of doubt in my own prediction though, based on Coxy's argument.

For what it's worth I'd rather be here reading your crowing than his. His would be relentless.

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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Fri 11 Nov 2011, 10:46 am

Scottrf wasn't the Scottrf of the Manny v Marquez thread until he became the Scottrf of the Manny v Marquez thread.

And no, Coxy, I won't be on here. I have better things to do with my time than talk to you on a Saturday.

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Post by GerardMcL Fri 11 Nov 2011, 10:46 am

Manny between 7-9.
7/1 on Marquez is very tempting, a fighter of that class shouldn't be such long odds - however I honestly don't think Marquez would get the decision in Vegas.
Nothing against Manny, but there are some fighters who are loved in Vegas and opponents struggle to get the decision.

Maybe split the bet between Manny by KO and fight going distance to cover yourself.

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Post by Rowley Fri 11 Nov 2011, 10:49 am

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:
Adam D (Hobo) wrote:The odds are with you Tino!

I'd like to think I have the backing of the board as well.


In the new found spirit of accord that the board is awash with couldn't possibly comment.

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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Fri 11 Nov 2011, 10:49 am

sodhat wrote:
For what it's worth I'd rather be here reading your crowing than his. His would be relentless.

I won't crow, sodhat. I will take quiet satisfaction in Coxy's discomfort.

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Post by coxy0001 Fri 11 Nov 2011, 10:49 am

It's at 4am..... What better things will you be doing then with everyone asleep? Feeding the rabbits?

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Post by Fists of Fury Fri 11 Nov 2011, 10:50 am

7/1 is a massive price on Marquez...he isn't even past it, still got plenty of quality in my book!!

Still...not going to be betting on him. Manny UD.

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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Fri 11 Nov 2011, 10:53 am

rowley wrote:
Mind the windows Tino. wrote:
Adam D (Hobo) wrote:The odds are with you Tino!

I'd like to think I have the backing of the board as well.


In the new found spirit of accord that the board is awash with couldn't possibly comment.

You just have?

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Post by Rowley Fri 11 Nov 2011, 10:53 am

Have maintained a Swiss level of neutrality though Tina

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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Fri 11 Nov 2011, 10:57 am

coxy0001 wrote:It's at 4am..... What better things will you be doing then with everyone asleep? Feeding the rabbits?

I shall be fast asleep myself.

We don't have any rabbits, although my wife keeps disappearing to play with one. I think she is going insane as we definitely haven't got one in the garden.

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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Fri 11 Nov 2011, 10:59 am

rowley wrote:Have maintained a Swiss level of neutrality though Tina

Indeed you have. We all know the real answer though.

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Post by coxy0001 Fri 11 Nov 2011, 10:59 am

So you won't be watching the fight....? Poor show

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Post by Rowley Fri 11 Nov 2011, 11:03 am

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:
rowley wrote:Have maintained a Swiss level of neutrality though Tina

Indeed you have. We all know the real answer though.

Whistle

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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Fri 11 Nov 2011, 11:03 am

coxy0001 wrote:So you won't be watching the fight....? Poor show

I've got four kids, Coxy, it is tiring. I am in the Union Cane school of barely managing to stay awake past 11:00 most days. Even if I was watching it, I still wouldn't want to talk to you.

I would, however, buy the fight through the 606v2 Primetime link up. thumbsup

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Post by Sugar Boy Sweetie Fri 11 Nov 2011, 11:04 am

Let's just bear in mind that Marquez a) has never been stopped and b) has the kind of style that has been proven to cause manny problems, so I think the idea of Marquez getting blown away early is pretty far fetched - regardless of mannys physical and technical improvements since their last fight. Manny has got used to fighting bigger, slower men since Marquez II, where he can bounce in and out and land punches almost at will - now he's gonna have to readjust to fighting a small technician who counters accurately down the pipe, who has a good chin and a warriors heart, who has gone 24 hard rounds with him before and knows his style. I believe Marquez is 3 years and 10lbs past his best in this fight while manny remains close to his cotto era prime, which is why I'll say manny very late with the ref stepping in much to JMM's chagrin, but I still think Marquez has enough stylistically and in his brain to cause manny difficulties. Would love to see Marquez win this, won the first fight by a point IMO, but his time has gone now and Team Pacquiao know it, hence the fight at this time at this weight.
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Post by coxy0001 Fri 11 Nov 2011, 11:05 am

You really cut to the core Tina.

Anyway, are we going to have a live chat thingy for it? Mods/Admins - yay/nay?

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Post by Sugar Boy Sweetie Fri 11 Nov 2011, 11:19 am

coxy0001 wrote:Manny early

Bet your house on it.

Me and Tino have a 1 week ban at stake if he doesn't knock Marquez out inside 6. I'm not sure what i'd do with a week off here, might have to do some work for once. Alternatively i'm not sure the board would cope well with my constant boasting and general arrogance on the matter Wink

Hmmmm... I think you might be onto a loser here coxy - as I said on the betting thread:

Let's just bear in mind that Marquez a) has never been stopped and b) has the kind of style that has been proven to cause manny problems, so I think the idea of Marquez getting blown away early is pretty far fetched - regardless of mannys physical and technical improvements since their last fight. Manny has got used to fighting bigger, slower men since Marquez II, where he can bounce in and out and land punches almost at will - now he's gonna have to readjust to fighting a small technician who counters accurately down the pipe, who has a good chin and a warriors heart, who has gone 24 hard rounds with him before and knows his style. I believe Marquez is 3 years and 10lbs past his best in this fight while manny remains close to his cotto era prime, which is why I'll say manny very late with the ref stepping in much to JMM's chagrin, but I still think Marquez has enough stylistically and in his brain to cause manny difficulties. Would love to see Marquez win this, won the first fight by a point IMO, but his time has gone now and Team Pacquiao know it, hence the fight at this time at this weight.

Think it's a bit easy to write Marquez off coz he's a bit smaller and older - he's still got the smarts and the technique. Don't get me wrong he won't win, but I can't see him losing in 6. If manny fights like he did against Mosley then Marquez would have a real chance, but no doubt that was just a blip.
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Post by Adam D Fri 11 Nov 2011, 11:19 am

Going to merge this with the betting thread as it covers similar ground OK

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Post by Fists of Fury Fri 11 Nov 2011, 11:26 am

Sugar Boy Sweetie wrote:
coxy0001 wrote:Manny early

Bet your house on it.

Me and Tino have a 1 week ban at stake if he doesn't knock Marquez out inside 6. I'm not sure what i'd do with a week off here, might have to do some work for once. Alternatively i'm not sure the board would cope well with my constant boasting and general arrogance on the matter Wink

Hmmmm... I think you might be onto a loser here coxy - as I said on the betting thread:

Let's just bear in mind that Marquez a) has never been stopped and b) has the kind of style that has been proven to cause manny problems, so I think the idea of Marquez getting blown away early is pretty far fetched - regardless of mannys physical and technical improvements since their last fight. Manny has got used to fighting bigger, slower men since Marquez II, where he can bounce in and out and land punches almost at will - now he's gonna have to readjust to fighting a small technician who counters accurately down the pipe, who has a good chin and a warriors heart, who has gone 24 hard rounds with him before and knows his style. I believe Marquez is 3 years and 10lbs past his best in this fight while manny remains close to his cotto era prime, which is why I'll say manny very late with the ref stepping in much to JMM's chagrin, but I still think Marquez has enough stylistically and in his brain to cause manny difficulties. Would love to see Marquez win this, won the first fight by a point IMO, but his time has gone now and Team Pacquiao know it, hence the fight at this time at this weight.

Think it's a bit easy to write Marquez off coz he's a bit smaller and older - he's still got the smarts and the technique. Don't get me wrong he won't win, but I can't see him losing in 6. If manny fights like he did against Mosley then Marquez would have a real chance, but no doubt that was just a blip.

I don't get that Manny was poor against Mosley. He dominated him every bit as much as Mayweather did, just in a different way. Yes he looked a bit more flat footed than usual and didn't connect clean a huge amount of times, but that was more to do with Mosley running away than anything else. As shown against Donaire recently, it is very difficult to tag someone that is purely intent on survival.

Wasn't his best performance by any stretch, though.

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Post by sodhat Fri 11 Nov 2011, 11:27 am

So JMM is 60-1 to win in any round?
It may be unlikely, but those are some crazy odds, almost tempting to pick a late round and put a bit on it. If I were a betting man (or had any money left)...

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Post by coxy0001 Fri 11 Nov 2011, 11:41 am

There is a reason why it's 60-1, you should generally ignore such odds and placing bets on them unless you have inside knowledge i.e. horse race.

The only outcomes that should be betted on are anything that involves Manny, he quite simply isn't going to lose in my eyes.

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Post by coxy0001 Fri 11 Nov 2011, 11:45 am

Interestingly, for those who think it's late:

Pacquiao in 8-12 or Pts is 4/6.......

Depends on how certain you are as you'll have to stick a bit of money on to see any decent returns.

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Post by Lance Fri 11 Nov 2011, 11:47 am

this is not the same marquez who gave manny 2 tough fights, lets be honest marquez anywhere near his best doesnt get dropped by katsidis. he didnt look anywhere near his best in his rematch with diaz either. manny has him out of there as soon as he really wants to. but it might not be early...

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Post by Scottrf Fri 11 Nov 2011, 11:47 am

Lance wrote:this is not the same marquez who gave manny 2 tough fights
Yeah it is, Juan Manuel.

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Post by Lance Fri 11 Nov 2011, 11:53 am

Scottrf wrote:
Lance wrote:this is not the same marquez who gave manny 2 tough fights
Yeah it is, Juan Manuel.

im flattered by your interest in me scottrf

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Post by Scottrf Fri 11 Nov 2011, 11:54 am

Hate to disappoint you but I’m not the least bit interested, just responding to your comments.

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