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Post by HitmanOwl Mon 19 Dec 2011, 4:23 pm

Cena wasn't needed. He hasn't got anyone to feud with simple,they could have put him in a match but it would be filler.

Tlc was good,triple h v nash went 20 mins far to long in my book. Triple threat was a great match. The unannounced matches was pointless,simply filler. Glad Ziggler has dropped the u.s belt though,he needs moving up.

Bryan winning means he will drop it very shortly,no way will he walk into mania with it.

Refreshing to see cena not on the ppv but hope he gets his personal issues resolved.

Looking forward to raw tonight especially what with kane.


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Post by hodge Mon 19 Dec 2011, 4:27 pm

I was thinking Bryan may actually hold till Mania, they will have more than enough sell power on the card with Rock Vs Cena, (likely) Punk Vs Jericho and Undertaker's opponent, so I was thinking that Bryan will hold onto the belt till Mania and face Wade Barrett at Mania, basically to say how NXT worked and has pushed 2 guys from the first series to the main event of Wrestlemania.

Obviously this leaves the likes of Orton, Rhodes and Sheamus all up in the air still for a match but i think Sheamus could face Rhodes at the PPV meaning they would just need to find Orton a match and he could easily do a cross brand match up.

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Post by HitmanOwl Mon 19 Dec 2011, 4:41 pm

Orton will win the rumble or win the elimination chamber,probably nailed on now Tbh.
Skip Sheffield will be back under the name ryback. He could be awesome if used correctly.

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Post by TwisT Mon 19 Dec 2011, 4:41 pm

hodge wrote:I was thinking Bryan may actually hold till Mania, they will have more than enough sell power on the card with Rock Vs Cena, (likely) Punk Vs Jericho and Undertaker's opponent, so I was thinking that Bryan will hold onto the belt till Mania and face Wade Barrett at Mania, basically to say how NXT worked and has pushed 2 guys from the first series to the main event of Wrestlemania.

Obviously this leaves the likes of Orton, Rhodes and Sheamus all up in the air still for a match but i think Sheamus could face Rhodes at the PPV meaning they would just need to find Orton a match and he could easily do a cross brand match up.

No chance. Bryan will drop the title within the next few months (if not sooner) Orton will be contesting for the WHC, probably with Ziggler.

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Post by ADMIN Mon 19 Dec 2011, 4:51 pm

I think the 1st title defence will be against Rhodes, they've had running battles as it is over the past few weeks and he's the right size etc to not make it look a David v Goliath ( ie Rey) World Heavyweight title defence.

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Post by hodge Mon 19 Dec 2011, 4:57 pm

I would say Big Show will get the first match, his rematch clause from Bryan cashing in, with Bryan having a submission finisher its more believable for him to be able to beat someone like Big Show than it is for Rey etc when they were champ.

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Post by Kay Fabe Mon 19 Dec 2011, 6:20 pm

I'd love to see Daniel Bryan hold the title until Elimination Chamber although I've been hoping for something to happen in order for a World Title to be held up so it cod be put on the line at the Rumble

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Post by NickisBHAFC Mon 19 Dec 2011, 6:24 pm

I can see Bryan beating Big Show on Smackdown.

If im right in saying they usually do the 1st Raw and Smackdown of 2011 they do title matches.

Last year The Miz vs John Morrison and Kane vs Edge.

I hope Bryan then beats Barret at the rumble but does drop the title at Elimination Chamber to Orton. Then have a triple threat or even fatel four way match at Mania for the title.

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Post by Ent Mon 19 Dec 2011, 6:26 pm

the-gaffer wrote: I'd love to see Daniel Bryan hold the title until Elimination Chamber although I've been hoping for something to happen in order for a World Title to be held up so it cod be put on the line at the Rumble

Henry is apparently injured, that could have been their opportunity.

Also if big show was unconscious and unable to start a match teddy long (playa) could reverse it and make the rumble be for whc.

I doubt it will happen but let's see.

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Post by Crimey Mon 19 Dec 2011, 6:29 pm

I actually felt that not even a mention of Cena, never mind an appearance harmed the PPV. They no sold him giving up his spot which should have been a big deal, or even used it as an excuse to make a big deal about Kane's return, say that Cena hasn't been seen since Raw and start a feud with Kane. To just not mention him is nonsense. It's hardly making the Rock vs. Cena match look a big deal when they can have a PPV without either of them and not even make a fuss.

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Post by Guest Mon 19 Dec 2011, 6:33 pm

Bryan v Y2J OK

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Post by hodge Mon 19 Dec 2011, 7:24 pm

have the it begins videos been appearing on SD as well? nothing ever said the person would be returning to Raw permenantly just that 2nd jan raw is a live show for them to return on.


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Post by BloscarPit09-ASK_HIM Mon 19 Dec 2011, 10:22 pm

[quote="invincibleILeak (CL-6WF)"]I actually felt that not even a mention of Cena, never mind an appearance harmed the PPV. They no sold him giving up his spot which should have been a big deal, or even used it as an excuse to make a big deal about Kane's return, say that Cena hasn't been seen since Raw and start a feud with Kane. To just not mention him is nonsense. It's hardly making the Rock vs. Cena match look a big deal when they can have a PPV without either of them and not even make a fuss.[/quote

It's an interesting point, also just realised that just 1 of the 4 guys that main evented the last PPV featured at any stage last night, something which is slightly worrying IMO.

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Post by Celtic Warrior Tue 20 Dec 2011, 12:23 am

Would Show have a rematch clause though? He wouldn't have signed a contract before being beaten by Bryan, so technically no clause can possibly be included.

I do think it's obvious that they will go that route and have Show annoyed at Bryan stealing his title after he offered advice etc. But I doubt he is "entitled" to a rematch.

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Post by DDT Tue 20 Dec 2011, 12:40 am

TLC is obviously a ppv where wrestlers are more at risk of injury, so maybe WWE didnt want to risk Cena picking up an injury and missing the main event at Mania. A main event they've been planning for a year.

I realy do hope it isn't Big Show who gets the first shot at Bryan. Even though the Big Shows big, he's not even intimidating, he's just fat. Atleast Henry looks intimidating. Big Show was a force 5-10 years ago, but now he's to old. He can't even deliver a choke slam anymore, hence why his finishing move is a right hand. Have you ever heard of a wrestlers finishing move, being a right hand, what a joke!

Would like to see it being Cody, as atleat he has the angle, that he holds a victory over Bryan, last week on Smackdown. Though I'm not sure they can leave the Booker T feud, after 2 attacks from behind. I think the likeliest challenger will be Randy Orton or Sheamus at the Rumble.

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Post by Fellaini25 Tue 20 Dec 2011, 12:45 am

Will Cena be on RAW tonight?

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Post by JoshSansom Tue 20 Dec 2011, 2:22 pm

DDT wrote:TLC is obviously a ppv where wrestlers are more at risk of injury, so maybe WWE didnt want to risk Cena picking up an injury and missing the main event at Mania. A main event they've been planning for a year.

I realy do hope it isn't Big Show who gets the first shot at Bryan. Even though the Big Shows big, he's not even intimidating, he's just fat. Atleast Henry looks intimidating. Big Show was a force 5-10 years ago, but now he's to old. He can't even deliver a choke slam anymore, hence why his finishing move is a right hand. Have you ever heard of a wrestlers finishing move, being a right hand, what a joke!

Would like to see it being Cody, as atleat he has the angle, that he holds a victory over Bryan, last week on Smackdown. Though I'm not sure they can leave the Booker T feud, after 2 attacks from behind. I think the likeliest challenger will be Randy Orton or Sheamus at the Rumble.

It really depends on whether they want Bryan to have a legitimate title run (highly unlikely) or not. If so then going over Big Show as an initial victim would work well, particularly given that he has gained some momentum by the way he has dominated Mark Henry. If not then it would make the run even more forgettable.

I would personally like to see him turn heel, hold until WM and then face (and probably lose to) Randy Orton. He could then stay in the main event picture in 2012 that way as a loss to Orton would or could be seen as credible and give him the rub needed, especially if he could win the EC.

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