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Post by Rugby10 Mon 09 Jan 2012, 1:53 pm

with the ospreys in talks with eiffion lewis roberts it looks like adam will be leaving for sure,with the salary cap theres no way the o's could afford the two . my oppinion i think eiffion will be a good replacement considering the circum stance.

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Post by bedfordwelsh Mon 09 Jan 2012, 2:16 pm

Rugby,

I was hoping we could afford him down at Dave but very much doubt it, he would be a very good replacement for Adam and good for Wales as well.

However on the pay front I am guessing he would have to take a pay cut coming from Toulon so I guess ut depends if the new salary cap implemented by the Regions means the Os could afford him either?
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Post by Rugby10 Mon 09 Jan 2012, 2:23 pm

Hes not happy out there hes either on the bench or not in the match day squad hell take a pay cut but it will work out the same as what the o's were paying adam so good business really . Think eiffion will be a great signing as he can also play loosehead

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Post by bedfordwelsh Mon 09 Jan 2012, 2:26 pm

RUgby,

It would be a very good signing but and I know this may ruffle few feathers, if he does sign then please lets hope the coaches do't go messing him about between Loose and Tight.

He is a specialist T/Head so leave him there to do what he does best.
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Post by beshocked Mon 09 Jan 2012, 2:29 pm

Why can Lewis Roberts demand such a high salary?

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Post by Kingshu Mon 09 Jan 2012, 2:42 pm

Really should be at Scarlets as that's his region. I think the players have to feel that they belong to a region, as a lot of them move region without a second thought.

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Post by bedfordwelsh Mon 09 Jan 2012, 2:50 pm

Kingshu,

Didn't he go to Sale because the Scarlets thought he wasn't good enough originally when he was at Ruthin I think.

Sure I watched a piece about him on Scrum V
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Post by formerly known as Sam Mon 09 Jan 2012, 3:07 pm

Why can Lewis Roberts demand such a high salary?.

Because he's a good scrummaging prop. Same reason most tightheads seem to be able to get paid more than anyone else. He'll give whichever club he goes too a solid cornerstone to the scrum and serious mass in the tight exchanges.

A good player. Would be better for Wales if the Ospreys kept Jones and Roberts went to the Scarlets/Blues/Dragons and that way the propping strength was added to rather than one in one out but there you go.

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Post by Shifty Mon 09 Jan 2012, 3:18 pm

I dont really know too much about him, save to say he's supposed to be a huge lump of a bloke.

Even if Adam Jones goes though the Ospreys still have Cai Griffiths, he could probably use a run of games and be given a chance.
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Post by TBJ9625 Mon 09 Jan 2012, 3:25 pm

Even though Cai has improved this season, he is still not a regional level prop and never will be. His scrummage is suspect and his work rate around the pitch is minimal.
So if we bring in Roberts, do we let Cai go or keep him and lose Jarvis?
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Post by Shifty Mon 09 Jan 2012, 3:30 pm

TBJ9625 wrote:Even though Cai has improved this season, he is still not a regional level prop and never will be. His scrummage is suspect and his work rate around the pitch is minimal.
So if we bring in Roberts, do we let Cai go or keep him and lose Jarvis?

I would let Jarvis go simply because he isnt Welsh and takes up a NWQ spot.
I'd like to see Cai given an extended run in the team.
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Post by ScarletSpiderman Mon 09 Jan 2012, 3:32 pm

bedfordwelsh wrote:Kingshu,

Didn't he go to Sale because the Scarlets thought he wasn't good enough originally when he was at Ruthin I think.

Sure I watched a piece about him on Scrum V

I must be honest I thought he used the 'I want to play close to home' as his arguement for playing at Sale over the Scarlets.

I think he is a decent prop, but may be a bit too much of a lump style prop to fit in with the more running style of the Ospreys.
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Post by TBJ9625 Mon 09 Jan 2012, 3:35 pm

Alan I agree with your reasoning. It's abit of a catch 22 situation really. I don't rate Jarvis much, but like Griffiths he needs to have a run of games. Neither will get that while Jones is fit and at the O's. If Jones goes and we do not bring in a 1st choice replacement, we could be stuck without a decent TH.
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Post by Rugby10 Mon 09 Jan 2012, 3:57 pm

jarvis is wq because is mother is from merthyr so dosent take up a spot, joe rees the young tight head is better than jarvis and cai allready but the o's dont want to rush hi to early

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Post by maestegmafia Mon 09 Jan 2012, 4:00 pm

AlynDavies wrote:I dont really know too much about him, save to say he's supposed to be a huge lump of a bloke.

Even if Adam Jones goes though the Ospreys still have Cai Griffiths, he could probably use a run of games and be given a chance.
They also have joe rees and jarvis...

If Adam does leave i cant see them wanting to buy an expensive player like Lewis Roberts.

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Post by gowales Mon 09 Jan 2012, 5:06 pm

Please get rid of Griffiths, give him to the Dragons, London Welsh or someone.

Regarding Roberts being a lump prop, he isn't. He is far more mobile than Adam Jones. Being a Sale fan myself he was a very good player, very mobile for a big man with good hands as well and a big carrier.

Although Maestag you're probably right, he would be expensive and the direction the regions are now heading with cutting costs he might be too much. A good tighthead is priceless though. I'd much rather have him than Stowers

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Post by Morgannwg Mon 09 Jan 2012, 6:13 pm

Kingshu wrote:Really should be at Scarlets as that's his region. I think the players have to feel that they belong to a region, as a lot of them move region without a second thought.

Players move between Provincial teams all over the world, even in Ireland.
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Post by wales606 Mon 09 Jan 2012, 6:45 pm

I was hoping the Blues might look at signing Effion to replace Filise (with Gill to replace Gethin if he goes - it probably wouldnt massively increase the wage bill)

Still, its good news that 2 welsh props could be replacing 2 welsh props at the regions.
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Post by maestegmafia Mon 09 Jan 2012, 6:52 pm

gowales wrote:Please get rid of Griffiths, give him to the Dragons, London Welsh or someone.

Regarding Roberts being a lump prop, he isn't. He is far more mobile than Adam Jones. Being a Sale fan myself he was a very good player, very mobile for a big man with good hands as well and a big carrier.

Although Maestag you're probably right, he would be expensive and the direction the regions are now heading with cutting costs he might be too much. A good tighthead is priceless though. I'd much rather have him than Stowers
We dont need stowers, Foutala'a or O'Toole...! We could be saving a lot of money in my opinion.

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