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Post by Londonirishollie Thu Jan 12, 2012 4:50 pm

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HK Gary Botha
HK Nathan Charles
HK Marc Jones

PR Andrew Sheridan (EQ) (LH
PR Lee Imiolek (EQ) (LH)
PR Logoviii Mulipola (LH/TH)

PR Davit Kubriashvili (TH)
PR Henry Thomas (EQ) (TH)

LK Frazer McKenzie
LK Dean Schofield (EQ)
LK Kearnan Myall (EQ)
LK Yoann Maestri
LK James Gaskell (EQ)
LK Matt Garvey (EQ)

BR Richie Vernon (BS/N8)
BR Juan Martin Fernandez Lobbe (BS/N8)
BR Schalk Burger (BS/OS)
BR Dave Seymour (EQ) (OS)
BR Jordan Crane (EQ) (N8)
BR Andy Powell (N8)

SH Hadyn Thomas (EQ)
SH Scott Mathie
SH Ciaran Willis

FH Aaron Cruden
FH/FB Nick Macleod
FH Johan Goosen

CE Sam Tuitipou
CE Jonathon Davies
CE Jonathan Joseph EQ
CE Jonny Leota
CE Luther Burrell

WG Tom Brady (EQ)
WE/CE Will Addison (EQ)
WG Charlie Amesbury (EQ)

FB Cameron Shepherd
FB Rob Miller (EQ)



Budget: 7 mill - 1/09/2012

Academy
Ross Harrison
Adam Birchall
Sam James
Alex Waddingham
Nathan Fowles
Will Bordill
Mark Jennings
Tommy Bell
Iain Thornley
Billy Emerson
Jonny Kenny

Players In

Jonny Wilkinson (Draft)
Dean Schofield (Draft)
Jaque Fourie - Foreign (24 mill)
Jordan Crane - Leicester (16 mill)
Davit Kurbashvili - Foreign (20 mill)
Gary Botha - Draft
Nathan Charles - National League (3 mill)
Schalk Burger - Foreign (24 mill)
Matt Stevens - Sarries (Dickinson deal)
Johan Goosen - Foreign (16 mill)
Jonathon Davies - Foreign (20 mill)
Cruden and Haydn Thomas (for Wilko and Peel)
Matt Garvey and Jonathan Jospeh (for Cueto, Stevens and Fourie)
Juan Martin Fernandez Lobbe - Foreign (23 mill)
Players Out
Tommy Taylor - Released (1.5 mill)
Tony Buckley - Released (4 mill)
Mark Easter - Released (1.5 mill)
Andrew Higgins - Released (1.5mill)
Dickinson + 3 mill (for stevens)
Tucalet, Ostrikov, Auva'a, Cobilas Released total of (8 mill)
Wilko and Peel (for Cruden and Hadyn Thomas)
Cueto, Stevens and Fourie (for Garvey and Joseph).
Hendrie Fourie - Retired 6 mill


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Post by Fluxy Fri Apr 13, 2012 2:39 pm

Any advances mate?

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Post by Bathite Fri Apr 13, 2012 3:01 pm

Burger, Tuitupou and Sheridan
for
SOB, Steyn and Flatman/Catt

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It's a good start mate. Really don't want to sell Steyn, but there's potential here. Would have to include Wilko though I think, as don't see Sheridan as a gain really, as he has a low rating on here and is so injury prone.

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Post by prop_lyd Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:41 pm

What would you want for Myall?
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Post by Fluxy Sun Apr 15, 2012 3:32 pm

Thoughts on my offermate?

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Post by Fluxy Sun Apr 15, 2012 6:41 pm

Okay mate, I thought you were keen seeing as you said you might get in McCaw. We could include others to even out the deal OK

Wilson could be available, although Thompstone isn't my player, he's on loan from Irish

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Post by Bathite Mon Apr 16, 2012 12:20 pm

I'll hold on mate, definately something we could deal on, but LH and FH are the next two areas I'm looking to improve upon, so depending on my next deal, I'll be back!

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Post by CJB Sat Apr 21, 2012 10:04 pm

Imiolek
Thomas
Kubrashvilli
Seymour
Fourie
Burger

Interest me

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun Apr 29, 2012 9:59 am

Miller + ?

Twelevetrees + ?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu May 03, 2012 7:27 am

Can't see where I gain there mate

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri May 04, 2012 8:33 am

I'll leave it mate

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon May 07, 2012 4:04 pm

Thomas + Miller

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Post by Bathite Wed May 09, 2012 8:57 pm

Potentially...

Steyn + Donald + Vesty + Flatman
=
Tuitipou + Wilko + Miller + Imiloek

?

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Post by Bathite Wed May 09, 2012 9:24 pm

Starting XV isn't up to date, think i probably still have Donald starting, which i haven't been doing. Catt starts over Flatman for me.

Vesty is the cover at 15, played there loads for us this season, I think it is his best position.

I know who Charles is mate and whilst I've been impressed with him, i'm not really interested. Pretty sure he only cost you about 3m.

For me to lose Steyn, a man in his prime, i need some real gains. Wilko is a better bet than Donald right now, but I think Donald will come good next year and Wilko will retire soon, so not a long term option

Can't see Imiloek, who wouldn't start ahead of Catt as enough of an improvement and not fussed about Charles.

Maybe Mullipola or Thomas or maybe even Sheridan could be involved?


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Post by Driver Wed May 09, 2012 9:28 pm

What for Sheridan?
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Post by Bathite Wed May 09, 2012 11:03 pm

Nothing to follow that offer up on then mate?

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Post by Bathite Wed May 09, 2012 11:21 pm

Fair enough, just can't really see it being worth the risk. Imiloek isn't enough of a gain for me to lose Steyn

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Post by Bathite Wed May 09, 2012 11:28 pm

Mainly a big loosehead for now. So big interest in Mullipola and maybe Sheridan. Wilko is a possibility also.

Not looking to lose big though mate, as I have the cash to spend on a foreign and some targets up my sleeve!

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Post by Bathite Wed May 09, 2012 11:30 pm

As i've said, loosehead (and fb, but you don't want back three). maybe gary botha as well

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Post by Driver Wed May 09, 2012 11:49 pm

See my problem is JJ is a tighthead whilst Sheridan is a LH and in his twilight years. Henre Fourie may not find a spot in the Sale back row when he comes back and Smith is a young talented winger.
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Post by Fluxy Tue May 15, 2012 12:00 am

Alright mate haven't negotiated with you for a while!

Kaino + Thomas + Hodgson + Heathcote
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Burger + Mercey + Mathie + Wilkinson

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Post by Driver Wed May 16, 2012 9:03 am

What for Rob Miller?
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Post by pullthestrings Wed May 16, 2012 10:29 am

Can't lose Delon for cash mate, I'm not sure Homer is rated highly enough to play every game.

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Post by CJB Wed May 16, 2012 10:31 pm

Schalk and Seymour interest me in your backrow

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Post by CJB Wed May 16, 2012 10:54 pm

Think my back-row looks overall weaker

Miller + Gaskell + Kubrashvilli 4 Haskell + ?

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Post by Fluxy Wed May 16, 2012 11:07 pm

Kaino + Wilson + Bendy + Shaw
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Burger + Kubs + Miller + Schofield

Enquiry OK

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Post by CJB Wed May 16, 2012 11:23 pm

No need for Stevens....I have Marler and don't rate him at TH

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Post by CJB Thu May 17, 2012 8:48 am

I'm planning to buy a TH in summer so sorry

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu May 17, 2012 9:33 am

Sorry mate, no interest in Fourie

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Post by Driver Thu May 17, 2012 11:20 am

What for Rob Miller?
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Post by Fluxy Thu May 17, 2012 12:01 pm

More than welcome to counter bids Hug

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu May 17, 2012 2:36 pm

Yea but not as much.

Obviously somebody like Goosen would require 10-16m as he's developing into a top non Int 10. Somebody with no top flight caps around 3m and upwards depending on experience/potential.

It'll be tough to judge tbh so each bid will be on merit

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu May 17, 2012 2:49 pm

That bid lasts forever so be better off using your 2 you get this summer (which run out) and saving that one till a later date

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Post by Fluxy Thu May 17, 2012 10:09 pm

I could improve on my offer above, and chuck in Paice/Whitehead for Charles? Would give you an EQ and probable starting hook.

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Post by Fluxy Mon May 21, 2012 4:59 pm

Alright mate, anything for Kubs, Mulipola, Schofield, Wilko and Miller?

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Post by Bathite Mon May 21, 2012 5:41 pm

Just waiting on your 7s squad please matey

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Post by Bathite Tue May 22, 2012 5:18 pm

That's ok mate, offers always encouraged!

Wilko, Burger, Tuitupou and H.Fourie
for
Donald, SOB, Steyn and and Mercer

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Not a bad start, but not interested in Fourie. If you could find another gain for me in this part of the deal, we might be close. Thomas, Miller, Seymour perhaps?

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Post by Bathite Thu May 24, 2012 10:41 am

Wilko, Burger, Tuitupou and Seymour
for
Donald, SOB, Steyn and Mercer

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Just not sure mate, can't really see it as a big enough gain, as Wilko on his last legs and losing SOB means I lose an 8, as burger can't play there

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Post by Bathite Thu May 24, 2012 3:03 pm

Powell won't swing it mate, I'd be looking at EQs and can't stand Powell! SOB is a quality option at 6 7 8, that's the beauty of having him

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Post by Fluxy Sun May 27, 2012 5:16 pm

Going to push you a little and offer;

Wilko + Charles + Kubs
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Corbs + Wilson + Paice


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Post by Fluxy Mon May 28, 2012 12:15 pm

I could be less inclined to go after Wilko and more Kubs, and builld more back upto my squaf upfront OK

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Post by pullthestrings Tue May 29, 2012 9:55 am

Wilko, J.Fourie, Cueto, Gaskell and 2 mill
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Delon, Losi, Yarde, Watson and B.Evans

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Not really keen on losing Delon as I don't feel Homer is rated highly enough to play every game at FB. Also not keen on losing Watson and Yarde, would need to be only one. Poss look at:

J.Fourie, Cueto, Gaskell
for
Losi, Yarde/Watson, B.Evans

enq

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Post by pullthestrings Tue May 29, 2012 12:16 pm

Not sure Fourie is the best in the world mate... he's now in Japan and unlikely to feature on the international stage any more. Would say there are a few better - BOD, Smith, AAC, Rougerie...

Same goes for Cueto - his best form has always been for England and he is unlikely to play for England again (almost certain not to). Yarde and Watson making huge strides in u21's.

Gaskell/Evans isn't essential to me, I'm happy with my locks at the minute.

For Watson/Yarde be looking at £12 mil each. Could possible rustle up something like this:

J.Fourie, Cueto, Gaskell, £8 mil
for
Losi, Yarde, Watson, B.Evans

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Post by pullthestrings Tue May 29, 2012 1:44 pm

What were you thinking then? £10 mil? What about:

J.Fourie, Cueto, £10 mil
for
Losi, Yarde, Watson

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Post by pullthestrings Wed May 30, 2012 1:18 pm

How much for Evans and Allinson?

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Mathie + £10 mil? If not probs looking at £8 mil a piece..

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Post by ChequeredJersey Wed May 30, 2012 7:48 pm

Sorry mate, Wiggles is English and a better SH than Mathie and covers 10, and I don't really need another backrow player, academy or not
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed May 30, 2012 8:23 pm

Sale Sharks you have offered 2 sponsership deals:

Gay Rabbit - 15m for season
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Sunny Delight - 5m initial 3 x 5m injections

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Post by pullthestrings Thu May 31, 2012 9:20 am

Renewing my interest for Fourie..

Sheriden + Fourie
=
Lahiff + King

as a start, let me know what you think.

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Post by pullthestrings Thu May 31, 2012 10:24 am

Fourie and Myall
for
Losi and Kennedy

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Not quite, too steep a drop there for me. Anything else? Tuilagi/Cueto?

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Post by CJB Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:32 am

I can't really see anything

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Post by Bathite Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:50 am

No gain for me there, might as well release him

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