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Post by wales606 Fri 13 Jan 2012, 4:47 pm

First topic message reminder :

London Irish: Delon Armitage; Topsy Ojo, Jonathan Spratt, Shontayne Hape, Adam Thompstone; Adrian Jarvis, Darren Allinson; Clarke Dermody (capt), David Paice, Faan Rautenbach, Nick Kennedy, Matt Garvey, Bryn Evans, David Sisi, Alex Gray.

Replacements: James Buckland, Alex Corbisiero, Paulica Ion, Bob Casey, James Sandford, Tom Homer, Steven Shingler, Paul Hodgson.



Blues: Leigh Halfpenny; Alex Cuthbert, Casey Laulala, Gavin Henson, Chris Czekaj; Dan Parks, Lloyd Williams; Gethin Jenkins, Rhys Thomas, Taufa'ao Filise, Bradley Davies, Paul Tito (capt), Michael Paterson, Sam Warburton, Xavier Rush.

Replacements: Ryan Tyrell, John Yapp, Scott Andrews, Maama Molitika, Josh Navidi, Richie Rees, Ceri Sweeney, Richard Mustoe.

Referee: Mr Neil Paterson (Scotland)



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Post by BritishLion Sat 14 Jan 2012, 5:27 pm

He played for Neath RFC before he signed for Blues.

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Post by KickAndChase Sat 14 Jan 2012, 5:27 pm

Worst game ever. Should have known with Parks in it.

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Post by BritishLion Sat 14 Jan 2012, 5:27 pm

What the hell is "Rassing Metro"?

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Post by Artful_Dodger Sat 14 Jan 2012, 5:28 pm

The correct way of pronouncing "Racing".

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sat 14 Jan 2012, 5:29 pm

spiteful little pat on the back when the Irish player cocked up at the end there but it was nice to see the welsh lad realise it and he seemed to go right back to that player and apologise which takes some guts. Class overcomes over-excitement there i'd say.

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Post by gowales Sat 14 Jan 2012, 5:30 pm

Mate i don't think thats what it was. Parks patted Shingler on the back and then had a chat to him. Probably about the eligibility thing

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Post by KickAndChase Sat 14 Jan 2012, 5:30 pm

BritishLion wrote:What the hell is "Rassing Metro"?

And for future reference it's Parc-uh Scarlets Wink

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Post by KickAndChase Sat 14 Jan 2012, 5:31 pm

gowales wrote:Mate i don't think thats what it was. Parks patted Shingler on the back and then had a chat to him. Probably about the eligibility thing

Laugh Laugh Laugh From an Australian to a Welshman

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sat 14 Jan 2012, 5:34 pm

gowales wrote:Mate i don't think thats what it was. Parks patted Shingler on the back and then had a chat to him. Probably about the eligibility thing
oh fair enough.

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Post by wales606 Sat 14 Jan 2012, 5:36 pm

AlynDavies wrote:
BritishLion wrote:Why did the Ospreys let Halfpenny go?
We did? Shocked

Yup, they kicked him out of their academy for being "too short"

Bet their kicking themselves now, or Halfpenny is kicking them because there are 50m away....
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Post by dogtooth Sat 14 Jan 2012, 5:37 pm

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Post by Artful_Dodger Sat 14 Jan 2012, 5:37 pm

Looks like its all going down to the last weekend as usual in the HC.

Ulster, Edinburgh, Blues, Harlequins, Toulouse, Clermont are fighting it out for 5 places - 3 group winners and 2 runners up.

Someone is going to be very very disappointed next weekend.

Thats assuming Harlequins win today to be honest, if they dont they are out.

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Post by Morgannwg Sat 14 Jan 2012, 5:39 pm

MrsP wrote:It doesn't come down to total tries scored if you are deciding between teams in the same group. They decide the placings on the 2 head to head matches between those 2 teams.

Table points
Tries
Cards.

The total tries scored in the pool stages is only used to separate teams from different groups that are tied on points.

Maybe that was what you meant. Just wanted to clarify.

I was unsure. Thanks for clarifying.
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Post by dogtooth Sat 14 Jan 2012, 5:41 pm

blues should easily beat rassin next week. the french side are out of it now and they wont come to the schitty schtadium trying to win. they will send some sort of development side and we could , hopefully, get a try bonus.

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Post by wales606 Sat 14 Jan 2012, 5:42 pm

Artful_Dodger wrote:Looks like its all going down to the last weekend as usual in the HC.

Ulster, Edinburgh, Blues, Harlequins, Toulouse, Clermont are fighting it out for 5 places - 3 group winners and 2 runners up.

Someone is going to be very very disappointed next weekend.

If the Blues and Harlequins (twice) win and Ulster get a LBP away to Clemont then the points will be

Blues 21
Quins 20
Ulster 20

So it will be very close -
I expect Quins could pick up a TBP in Connacht, or tonight which would rule Blues out, unless the Blues finish top, in which case Edinburgh could go through anyway as they have a bucket load of tries.

Fingers crossed that Ulster win in Clemont Wink
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Post by Morgannwg Sat 14 Jan 2012, 5:44 pm

I haven't looked at all the groups, but so far, guessing the top 8 will be: Leinster, Ulster, Munster, Saracens, Clermont, Toulouse, Quins, Blues or Edinburgh? Not in order yet btw.
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Post by wales606 Sat 14 Jan 2012, 5:45 pm

Correction, the best two runners up go through.

So, as long as the Blues win next week they will go through

(since Ulster would need 2pts, which would mean they top their group and Clemont would only have 18/19 - Unless Ulster lose, but get a TBP and LBP)
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Post by maestegmafia Sat 14 Jan 2012, 5:46 pm

That missed kick could be huge for Irish.

Four points out and blues looking the superior team.

Molitika on for Tito. Scots man Shingler on for kiwi hape.

Parks misses another tackle

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Post by wales606 Sat 14 Jan 2012, 5:48 pm

Morgannwg wrote:I haven't looked at all the groups, but so far, guessing the top 8 will be: Leinster, Ulster, Munster, Saracens, Clermont, Toulouse, Quins, Blues or Edinburgh? Not in order yet btw.

At the moment it will be

Leinster
Munster
Saracens
Toulouse

(Pretty much gaurenteed)

Then

Ulster/Clermont (probably Clermont)
Blues/Edinburgh

Then, 2nd place teams

(Edinburgh/Blues)/(Clermont/Ulster)/Harlequins - 2 go through
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Post by Artful_Dodger Sat 14 Jan 2012, 5:48 pm

Not going to know until after the Harlequins vs Gloucester game, a LBP could still be enough for Ulster as if they finish on 20 and Harlequins finish on 20 it would come down to trys scored.

Still too many permutations to really set it out.

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Post by wales606 Sat 14 Jan 2012, 5:49 pm

And the order on the 1/4s will be completely dependant on next weekend

Blues/Edinburgh are struggling for qualification, but the team that finishes top would be a good shout for a home 1/4 on 21/22 points
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Post by wales606 Sat 14 Jan 2012, 5:51 pm

Artful_Dodger wrote:Not going to know until after the Harlequins vs Gloucester game, a LBP could still be enough for Ulster as if they finish on 20 and Harlequins finish on 20 it would come down to trys scored.

Still too many permutations to really set it out.

Yup :/

I hate it when qualification comes down to the last weekend.

I envy Leinster and Munster, they are miles from their competition in their groups.
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Post by Morgannwg Sat 14 Jan 2012, 5:55 pm

So who do you think will drop down into the Challenge cup, and how many teams is it again, two or three?
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Post by Artful_Dodger Sat 14 Jan 2012, 6:03 pm

I think Clermont and Toulouse will go through - one of Edinburgh, Blues and Ulster going to the Amlin Sad

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Post by MrsP Sat 14 Jan 2012, 6:07 pm

Of the second placed teams, the top 2 get through to the HEC quarters, the next three drop to the Amlin quarters and one has no further European competition this season.

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Post by Artful_Dodger Sat 14 Jan 2012, 6:09 pm

I should say one of Ulster, Blues, Edinburgh and Quins going tot he Amlin.

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Post by Notch Sat 14 Jan 2012, 6:10 pm

MrsP wrote:Of the second placed teams, the top 2 get through to the HEC quarters, the next three drop to the Amlin quarters and one has no further European competition this season.

But with Scarlets losing at least we know we have some kind of quarter-final... we won't be the 12th seed.
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Post by MrsP Sat 14 Jan 2012, 6:14 pm

Thank goodness Notch.

To have produced a performance like last night and still get nowhere would have been difficult.

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Post by Artful_Dodger Sat 14 Jan 2012, 6:14 pm

Quite notch - but I'd take a Heineken QF over having a good chance to win the Amlin any day.

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Post by Morgannwg Sat 14 Jan 2012, 6:14 pm

Artful_Dodger wrote:I should say one of Ulster, Blues, Edinburgh and Quins going tot he Amlin.

Perhaps Scarlets, Northampton or Ospreys to join them?
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Post by Artful_Dodger Sat 14 Jan 2012, 6:22 pm

ugh Freddie Burns not helping Sad

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