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Post by sexton_style Fri 10 Feb 2012, 4:55 pm

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EXETER CHIEFS RUGBY CLUB

Full name: Exeter Chiefs Rugby Club
Union: Rugby Football Union
Founded: 1871
Location: Exeter, Devon, England
Ground: Sandy Park (Capacity: 10,744)
Chairman: Tony Rowe
Head Coach: Sexton_Style
Captain: James Horwill
Competitions: Aviva Premiership, Amlin Challenge Cup, Anglo Welsh Cup.

Coaching Staff
Forwards coaches: Jono Gibbes & Rob Baxter
Scrummaging coach: Greg Feek
Defence coach: Rassie Erasmus
Attack/Skills coach: Richie Murphy
Kicking coach:

Initial Budget: £60 million
Current Budget: £7.5 million

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SENIOR SQUAD (36/40)
Forwards (20)

HK Simon Alcott (England)
HK Neil Clark (England)

PR Perry Freshwater (England)
PR Ben Moon (England)
PR Brett Sturgess (England)

PR Chris Budgen (England)
PR John Andress (Ireland)
PR Craig Mitchell (Wales)
PR Hoani Tui (New Zealand)

LK James Hanks (England)
LK Tommy Hayes (Ireland)
LK Aly Muldowney (England)
LK James Horwill (Australia)

FL Andy Saull (England)
FL James Phillips (England)
FL James Scaysbrook (England)
FL Tom Croft (England)
FL James Gibson (England)

N8 Richard Baxter (England)
N8 Ofisa Treviranus (Samoa)

Backs (16)

SH Junior Poluleuigaga (Samoa)
SH Haydn Thomas (England)
SH Joe Simpson (England)

FH Ignacio Mieres (Argentina)
FH Gareth Steenson (Ireland/England)

CE Sireli Naqelevuki (Fiji)
CE Bryan Rennie (Scotland)
CE Jason Shoemark (New Zealand)
CE Josh Tatupu (Samoa)

WG Matt Jess (England)
WG Topsy Ojo (England)
WG Nic Sestaret (France)
WG Miles Benjamin (England)
WG James Short (England)
WG Tom Biggs (England)

FB Luke Arscott (England)
FB Tom Homer (England)

INJURIES

Name - Return Week

Tom Johnson - 7
Jason Shoemark - 8
Steffon Armitage - 9
Josh Taputu - 10
Ignacio Mieres - 11
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ACADEMY SQUAD (15)
Forwards

HK Scott Spurling
PR Luke Cowan-Dickie
PR Lloyd Fairbrother
LK Will Carrick-Smith
LK Addison Lockley
FL David Ewers
FL Herbie Stupple
N8 Joel Conlon

Backs

SH James Lightfoot-Brown
FH Henry Slade
CE Sam Jones
CE Sam Hill
WG Jack Arnott
WG Mike Canty
FB Jack Nowell
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Transfers

IN
Steffon Armitage (from Toulon) - Free
Perry Freshwater (from Perpignan) - Free
Paul Sackey (from Stade Francais) - Free
Scott Spurling (from Saracens) - £3 million
Bismarck du Plessis (from Sharks) - £26 million
Ofisa Treviranus (from London Irish) - £7.5 million
James Horwill (from Queensland Reds) - £25 million
Aaron Cruden (from The Chiefs) - £18 million

OUT
Chris Whitehead (Released) - £1.5 million
Charlie Walker-Blair (Released) - £0.5 million
Chad Slade (Released) - £2.5 million
Myles Dorrian (Released) - £0.5 million
Chris Bentley (Released) - £1.5 million
Peter Short (Released) - £1.5 million
John Vickers (Released) - £1.5 million
Kevin Barrett (Released - £1.5 million
Phil Dollman (Released) - £1.5 million
Mark Foster (Released) - £1.5 million
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Other Finances

£2 million - Pre Season week One Prediction Bonus
£2 million - Pre Season week Two Prediction Bonus
£2 million - Aviva Premiership Round One Prediction Bonus


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Post by pullthestrings Mon 13 Feb 2012, 1:09 pm

Roche + Homer + Gibson + Shingler
for
TJ + Cruden + Arscott + Trev

===

Sorry missed this one. I'd do it without the Homer/Arscott bit? Can include Simpson/Wiggy instead.

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Post by stnick88 Mon 13 Feb 2012, 1:12 pm

also interested in Johnson.

can include poff or rees.

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Post by pullthestrings Mon 13 Feb 2012, 1:23 pm

Wouldn't do that one you suggested. Let me know about my one.

I'm also keen on Croft and Camacho - let me know if there's anything we can do for them?

Perhaps

Gibson + Ojo + Homer + Shingler
=
Croft + Camacho + Cruden

enq.

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Post by pullthestrings Mon 13 Feb 2012, 1:31 pm

Gibson + Homer + Shingler
for
TJ + Cruden + Mieres

==

No interest in Mieres mate. Could do:

Gibson + Roche + Shingler
=
Croft + Cruden

if you prefer.

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Post by CJB Mon 13 Feb 2012, 1:33 pm

With them players coming back to me only Garvey is available

Garvey + Fasa 4 Camacho + TJ

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 13 Feb 2012, 1:47 pm

2m for James Phillips?

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Post by CJB Mon 13 Feb 2012, 1:49 pm

Morgan is NFS unless Croft/Horwill is included or Benjamin with huge gain elsewhere

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Mon 13 Feb 2012, 1:51 pm

Sorry mate im not going to lose out on my starting 15 to gain on the bench. Now that BDP and Armitage are gone going to need Horwill in the deal as I need a gain in the starting 15 somewhere.

How about Horwill and Cruden for Dowson, Lamb and Sorenson?

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Post by CJB Mon 13 Feb 2012, 1:56 pm

Difference between Garvey + Sestarat is huge...no thanks

Morgan + Garvey 4 Croft + Armitage
ENQ

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Post by CJB Mon 13 Feb 2012, 2:02 pm

It's a tiny gap if it even exists...Morgan looked much better in his short spell on Saturday and fits in my team better than Croft.

Mieres/Camacho hold no interest for me

Saull + Croft 4 Morgan + Garvey
ENQ

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Mon 13 Feb 2012, 2:03 pm

Sorry mate but the gap between Dowson and Wood and your two lads is a lot bigger then Cruden and Lamb. Need Horwill in the deal and happy to do a 3 for 2.
How about Horwill, Naqelevuki and Slade for Dowson, Downey and Day. 2 gains to 1 to you and you get serious EQ in but I get Horwill thumbsup

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Post by stnick88 Mon 13 Feb 2012, 2:04 pm

ok

how about something along the lines of....

Chuter, Tuilagi, Robinson, Poff
for
Clark, Benjamin, Cruden, Johnson

2 gains each

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Post by pullthestrings Mon 13 Feb 2012, 2:04 pm

Will go to:

Gibson + Roche + Shingler + Ojo
=
Croft + Cruden + Benjamin

enquiry for the moment.

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Post by Driver Mon 13 Feb 2012, 2:06 pm

What for TJ and Short?
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Post by CJB Mon 13 Feb 2012, 2:18 pm

We aren't going to be able to deal then...you are undervaluing Garvey despite the fact it'd give you the Worcester wings

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Mon 13 Feb 2012, 2:26 pm

Sorry mate your asking me to give up the man who would be England captain if it wasnt for injury for a gain on my bench. I can't do that at all.

Cruden + Naqelevuki
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Lamb + Downey

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Post by stnick88 Mon 13 Feb 2012, 2:32 pm

were not making much headway here!

happy not to include benjamin or johnson.

i will happily include waldouck, robinson
if you are happy to include cruden, shoemark, then we could do 2 for 2

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Post by CJB Mon 13 Feb 2012, 2:36 pm

I'd say in both instances there is barely anything in it

Croft doesn't fit in my team as well as Morgan and Morgan looked really good the other day and is basically the starting England 8. How do you judge between starting 6+8.

Yer Saull is in the Saxons but look at who he is competing with compared to Garvey.

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Mon 13 Feb 2012, 2:37 pm

Cruden + Johnson
for
Lamb + Wood

Did you see my above comment. Wood is miles a head of Johnson while Cruden would be bench for me.

Foden for Short
Clark for Scaysbrook

Both my lads are miles ahead! Foden world class and Clark in and around the England squad better then Johnson never mind Scaysbrook!

Im not going to lose key first team players to gain on my bench.

Dowson + Day
=
Horwill??

You cant say thats not a fair offer!

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Post by stnick88 Mon 13 Feb 2012, 2:37 pm

or alternatively

cruden and clark
for
robinson and chuter

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Post by stnick88 Mon 13 Feb 2012, 2:43 pm

JJ is going nowhere
nor garvey

best i can do is

robinson and chuter
for
cruden and clark

or

robinson and waldouck
for
cruden and shoemark

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Mon 13 Feb 2012, 2:55 pm

sexton_style wrote:You keep missing the point.

Im not selling Horwill for Day or Sorensen that is poor.

Downey + Wood + Dickson
for
Naqelevuki + TJ + Wigglesworth

Naqelevuki > Downey
Wood > TJ
Dickson = Wigglesworth

You improve at centre, I improve at back row and we swap England scrum halfs?

And yet your expecting me to lose key first teamers for bench players...

Naqelevuki >/= Downey
Wood >> TJ
Dickson >> Wigglesworth

How Wiggles who has barely played a game all season and is miles down the England pecking order can be seen on a par with Dickson amuses me. Wood is the form English backrower and was captain elect till injury and miles ahead of Johnson so thats 2 big losses for me for a very marginal gain with not alot in it between Downey and Naqelevuki.

You have to give me something to improve my starting 15 so need to work Horwill in there somewhere! What will it take?

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Post by pullthestrings Mon 13 Feb 2012, 2:58 pm

Gibson + Homer + Simpson + Ojo
for
Johnson + Cruden + Wigglesworth + Camacho

Could deal on that OK

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Post by stnick88 Mon 13 Feb 2012, 2:59 pm

Robinson + Waldouck
Cruden + Shoemark


cant do that, lose 3 ENG players for 1 in return.
also no matter what JJ is going nowhere. take him out of the equation and we can talk. also if i was you i would keep naqa, he is good and gives you a go to man in the back line. i dont need someone like that now i have jordan turner hall.

like i said, best i can do is

Robinson + Waldouck
for
Cruden + Shoemark

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Post by pullthestrings Mon 13 Feb 2012, 3:10 pm

If you prefer Camacho, drop the Ojo/Camacho bit. Camacho probably better but Ojo is EQ.

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Mon 13 Feb 2012, 3:11 pm

Horwill will have to take Lawes, Horwill is better and the captain of the current Super 15 champions. Lawes good player, England international but lacks quality in some areas of his game.

Lawes + Lamb + Wood + Dowson
for
Horwill + Cruden + TJ + Scaysbrook/Trev

Horwill > Lawes
Cruden > Lamb
Wood > TJ
Dowson > Scaysbrook/Trev

?

Horwill > Lawes fair enough but Lawes EQ and so much potential
Cruden >/= Lamb. Lamb is EQ, available all year and in great form for Saints. Both would be bench for me so no gain for me!
Wood >> TJ. Wood is the best backrower in England! Would be captain now!
Dowson >> Scaysbrook/Trev. Not even comparable really quality wise

Couldnt lose 4 EQ all of whom are in my matchdayy 22 when I'm only making one gain! You are looking for way too much here. You have said else where that you really want to set the backrow up and Dowson would do that for you so I cant see why you wont do

Horwill
=
Dowson + Day

You lose a bit of quality at lock but Day is good and EQ. Is lineout captain at Saints whom have the best lineout in the prem! And you get that top english backrower you have been looking for to finish off the back row. Can maybe throw someone like Armstrong/Cato in to really swing the deal in your favour so your getting 3 quality EQ for just Horwill!

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Post by Driver Mon 13 Feb 2012, 3:12 pm

Poor offer , i'm not interested
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Post by stnick88 Mon 13 Feb 2012, 3:13 pm

nope!

Honestly mate, JJ will not leave this club!!!

if you wana get a deal done,

robinson, waldouck
for
cruden, shoemark

is best i can do.

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Post by pullthestrings Mon 13 Feb 2012, 3:16 pm

Would prefer to leave the Ojo/Camacho bit completely rather than compensate it with something else - they're of the same quality IMO. Confirm it with or without that bit - I'm not that bothered.

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Mon 13 Feb 2012, 3:23 pm

Sorry mate not going to lose Lawes. Looking to partner Horwill with him. Have made a more then fair offer. Come back to me when your ready to let Horwill go thumbsup

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Mon 13 Feb 2012, 3:43 pm

And you wanted to leave me with Wiggles, Scarbrock, Big Trev etc while taking Dickson, Wood and other key players!
If you want to improve in the backrow you have to lose out somewhere and 2nd row isnt an area Exeter are weak in!! While Day is a great lineout man!

Saull is a useless openside. If you want my opinion on him check out the other Aviva game. He misses tackle after tackle and does nothing on the ground. All he is good for is the kick chase so no way would I lose Wood for him. And its an opinion that is shared with quite a few managers on there (and here now) Best offer your going to get from me is

Dowson + Day + Cato
=
Horwill.

Go check the other aviva out if you dont know how important EQ players are.

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Post by Driver Mon 13 Feb 2012, 3:49 pm

Tom Johnson + Richard Baxter for Nick Easter?
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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Mon 13 Feb 2012, 3:52 pm

Wheres the gain for me with Cruden sitting on the bench???!!!

Dowson + Day + Cato
=
Horwill

I will only deal if Horwill is coming my way as he is your only player that would improve my starting 15! Thats the best your going to get from me as Im paying through my nose losing that many EQ for a foreign!

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Post by Bathite Mon 13 Feb 2012, 3:57 pm

Biggs + Hipkiss
4
Nowell + Slade + Spurling + Mitchell / Freshwater
?

Guessing that you don't want to lose starters, so thinking slightly differently

I think that three uncapped youngsters equals one EQ premiership starter with Hipkiss for Mitchell/Freshwater?

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Post by Driver Mon 13 Feb 2012, 3:57 pm

Lose out too much
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Post by Driver Mon 13 Feb 2012, 4:03 pm

so 2 internationals for 1 international and a squad player at Saracens?
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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Mon 13 Feb 2012, 4:07 pm

Mate I've told you from the start Im not going to lose out in my starting 15 for the sack of gaining a sub! Every deal you have offered me is weighted way over to you and sees me losing key players.

Dowson + Day + Cato
=
Horwill

Will stay on the table for you till you actually see the importance of EQ players

Could maybe do Dowson + Strauus
=
Horwill

Now that your lacking any decent options at hooker with BDP gone Strauss improves you massively and Dowson improves your backrow. Gaining 2 starters and losing 1. That is more then fair!

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Post by pullthestrings Mon 13 Feb 2012, 4:11 pm

Once again, it looks like you've pulled out at the last minute. Stop making offers if you won't actually go through with them, it's a waste of everyone's time.

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Mon 13 Feb 2012, 4:15 pm

had Lamb + Dowson
=
Cruden + Armitage + cash originally.

Its you that brought TJ into the reckoning and I told you I wouldnt lose starters to gain on the bench! Unless Horwill is coming my way there will be no deal mate.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 13 Feb 2012, 4:18 pm

Gibson?

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Mon 13 Feb 2012, 4:20 pm

If Gibson is coming your way I'll do:

Dowson + Lamb
=
Gibson + Cruden

Cant be anything wrong with that offer!!

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Mon 13 Feb 2012, 4:24 pm

SirJohnnyEnglish wrote:If Gibson is coming your way I'll do:

Dowson + Lamb
=
Gibson + Cruden

Cant be anything wrong with that offer!!

See you have lost Cruden!
Could possibly do:

Dowson + Strauss
=
Gibson + Homer + Slade

Your gaining two starters while I'm getting potential thumbsup

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Post by CJB Mon 13 Feb 2012, 4:25 pm

Is ginger available

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Mon 13 Feb 2012, 4:28 pm

Well then just Strauss for Homer and Slade. You get big gain starting 15 wise and get to keep Gibson to dangle in front of Pooly. I get some good potential

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 13 Feb 2012, 4:32 pm

Cant lose Waldroum for Gibson. Wade isnt for sale.

How about Hawkins straight swap, you need a good hooker

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Mon 13 Feb 2012, 4:36 pm

Dowson + Strauss
for
Gibson + Homer + Slade still stands as well mate.
Can possibly add Cato/Armstrong on my side to make it 3 for 3 as well. Would want 3mil as well though then as you would be getting proven quality as versed to just potential thumbsup

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Post by Bathite Mon 13 Feb 2012, 4:44 pm

Oh, didn't think you would play those youngsters, with Mieres Cruden and others in the way. Cash could work, but not losing Fearns for Johnson, as he isn't an 8.

How about just.

Biggs
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Camacho + 6m?

Biggs available all year round (Arg now in Tri Nations!), EQ and in great form

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Mon 13 Feb 2012, 5:04 pm

Dowson + Strauss
for
Gibson + Homer

How about just 2 for 2 then mate. See that as 1 gain each with my gain marginal as Dowson is further up the England pecking order but Gibson's potential being my gain while you pick up Strauss who is a massive gain for you at hooker thumbsup

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 13 Feb 2012, 5:07 pm

Can't see anything for Flood. Wade needs massive as he's a future star.

Benjamin + Gibson

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Mon 13 Feb 2012, 5:20 pm

But Arscott is a better starting fullback then Alcott and Clark are at hooker. You can see how important set piece and the forward battle is just by reading this weeks predictions and Strauss has been quality at hooker for the best team in Europe for the last 2 years.
Its a good deal for both of us to be honest as your starting pack seriously improves and I get some decent youngsters

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