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Post by Union Cane Mon 13 Feb 2012, 12:25 pm

Who was the only boxing world champion who's name was the same as his nationality?
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Post by 88Chris05 Mon 13 Feb 2012, 12:29 pm

Freddie Welsh.
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Post by Union Cane Mon 13 Feb 2012, 12:29 pm

That's the feller!

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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Mon 13 Feb 2012, 12:30 pm

Kevin Tajikistan?

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Post by Rowley Mon 13 Feb 2012, 12:32 pm

To be a pedant though Freddie Welsh was not actually his name, believe he was born Freddie Thomas, and he adopted the name Welsh as a gesture of patriotism. Good question though.

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Post by Union Cane Mon 13 Feb 2012, 12:35 pm

You'll be telling me next that Wales is not technically a nation, it is a principality, so wasn't really Welsh either, he was British.
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Post by 88Chris05 Mon 13 Feb 2012, 12:36 pm

rowley wrote:To be a pedant though Freddie Welsh was not actually his name, believe he was born Freddie Thomas, and he adopted the name Welsh as a gesture of patriotism. Good question though.

Ha! That was going through my mind when I answered, Rowley - just didn't forsee even you being quite so pedantic, mind.

Although my understanding of how he got the name 'Freddie Welsh' is a little different; I read that a sloppy MC was responsible. In an amateur bout / very early professional one, the MC asked what his name was so he could introduce him, but due to crowd noise all he heard was "Freddie." So upon hearing the accent but not his surname, the MC simply cobbled together the name 'Freddie Welsh' and, hey ho, there you go.

Don't take it as gospel, though!
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Post by sodhat Mon 13 Feb 2012, 12:37 pm

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:Kevin Tajikistan?

No, he was from Krygyzstan

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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Mon 13 Feb 2012, 12:38 pm

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Mind the windows Tino. wrote:Kevin Tajikistan?

No, he was from Krygyzstan

Ah, I see. My mistake.

Carry on, Union. Belter of a thread.

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Post by Rowley Mon 13 Feb 2012, 12:48 pm

Very possible Chris to be honest can't quite remember how he came to be called Welsh so just made that bit up.

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Post by Union Cane Mon 13 Feb 2012, 12:51 pm

According to Wiki, before his first professional fight Welsh decided to change his name, fearing he may fail and that his mother would find out he was boxing. He first chose Fred Cymry, Cymry meaning Welsh, but on writing to Fanny, she suggested that 'Welsh' would be less confusing. It probably wasn't that at all.
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Post by johnson2 Mon 13 Feb 2012, 12:53 pm

How many additional seconds did Dundee's famed glove ripping buy Ali when fighting Cooper. No cheating.

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Post by 88Chris05 Mon 13 Feb 2012, 12:55 pm

johnson2 wrote:How many additional seconds did Dundee's famed glove ripping buy Ali when fighting Cooper. No cheating.

Well, I've heard two seconds, three seconds and six seconds thrown about in equal amounts - so I'll got for the middle one, three seconds, as a guess.

To be honest, I'm more inclined to believe Cooper's account of things; it was at least five minutes.
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Post by johnson2 Mon 13 Feb 2012, 12:58 pm

Not 3...

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Post by rob-glos Mon 13 Feb 2012, 1:03 pm

6 seconds... Read an article earlier on the BBC site

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Post by johnson2 Mon 13 Feb 2012, 1:09 pm

rob-glos wrote:6 seconds... Read an article earlier on the BBC site

Damn you. I said no cheating...

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Post by rob-glos Mon 13 Feb 2012, 1:10 pm

When I say read an article.... Not just then...

Read it this morning!

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Post by manos de piedra Mon 13 Feb 2012, 1:10 pm

The aticle on bbc was riddled with inaccuracies/exaggerations so Im not sure how reliable it is. It tells the story of Dundee ordering the ropes loosened in Zaire. He actually wanted them tightened.

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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Mon 13 Feb 2012, 1:14 pm

manos de piedra wrote:The aticle on bbc was riddled with inaccuracies/exaggerations so Im not sure how reliable it is. It tells the story of Dundee ordering the ropes loosened in Zaire. He actually wanted them tightened.

A BBC article that is riddled with inaccuracies?

Surely not. That whole corporation is one giant inaccuracy.

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Post by manos de piedra Mon 13 Feb 2012, 1:20 pm

Yeah the BBC is hopeless for boxing. The general theme seems to be Ben Dirs bemoaning the current state of boxing while wistfully reminiscing about a time when he neither followed nor covered the sport.

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Post by John Bloody Wayne Mon 13 Feb 2012, 1:27 pm

johnson2 wrote:
rob-glos wrote:6 seconds... Read an article earlier on the BBC site

Damn you. I said no cheating...

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