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by **ADMIN** Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:18 pm

As Crimey has put up a team sheet for the champions league I've gone with my normal set up rather than the 2nd string.

by Guest Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:19 pm

Y I Man wrote:If its a no, I would like to know the reason

by **Afro** Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:20 pm

The reason I was a No, and I actually agree, is that Llorente is Basque through and through and has made it quite clear that he loves Bilbao and would only leave if it was to one of the very biggest clubs like Barca and Real.

He keeps getting linked with Spur and keeps laughing it off as having no desire to move to Spurs.

by **Crimey** Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:20 pm

What match am I voting on, and who am I sending the votes to?

by Fan Gilhaus Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:21 pm

Mayuka - £5m

Mayuka > Doumbia

Whistle

by sodhat Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:21 pm

If Twist is genuinely gone now, wasn't Brahma Bull knocking about looking for a team?

by Nay Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:22 pm

The europa league matches as you are in the champions league

Theres a voting page in that section

by Fan Gilhaus Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:22 pm

by FIFA Diva Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:23 pm

lol Bull no thanks mate we're better off looking else where. Plus he only wanted Fiorentina.

by **Afro** Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:24 pm

I guess voting is open for the Europa and CL then.

All managers not in CL vote on that comp, all managers not in Europa vote on that.

Deadline for voting bonus (as announced Friday, Monday and Tuesday) was due to be 5pm today, but given the time that the tactics were delayed too, that deadline is extended to midday tomorrow

by Guest Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:24 pm

bs, if Bilbao are offered £30m for him they would take it.
Bent is allowed to join the league from Villa after a year at his club. Would a mid table team sell their No9 who has started 21 league games out of 24 after a year? Likewise Bilbao (a mid table club) would cash in on Llorente.
In this game Benfica are a big team, they have won the league and are in the Champions Cup, much more than Bilbao can achieve.

Consistency in TP's? My arse!

by **ADMIN** Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:26 pm

Bent though is notorious for moving every time anyone waves a cheque book at him.

by nadeem2099 Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:26 pm

2 managers quit in the space of a week. Twist and Nando, hope you both well in your future endeavors. If ever you want to rejoin the league then say that I told you about it so I get the money for refering you here.

by sodhat Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:26 pm

Problem with Bilbao must be that there isn't really much they can do with the cash...and if Llorente truly is happy there they wouldn't need to move him along unless they were in dire straights.

by nick_fury Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:27 pm

COME ON UNITED

by ncfc_Tooze Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:28 pm

so I vote on all europe fixtures?

by **Afro** Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:28 pm

You can't compare Llorente and Bilbao to Bent and Villa.

Llorente is a world class striker, and is also a highly loyal Basque. Regardless of whether the clubs would have accepted the money, the fact is IRL, say Liverpool had come in for them in January, Bent would have moved and Llorente would not.

I didn't benefit from this as I would prefer Llorente over 10 Darren Bent's, but the fact is the TPs in this case have reflected what would happen IRL in my opinion

by Guest Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:29 pm

Macclads wrote:Bent though is notorious for moving every time anyone waves a cheque book at him.

After a year?
Villa are hardly going to sell their No9 after a year!

Rules for some, and rules for others it appears...............

by Marky Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:29 pm

I actually PM'd Bull regarding the Malaga job, he might be entertained for the 4 weeks remaining to get to the end of the season!

by FIFA Diva Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:30 pm

Yes because Valencia are not playing in Europe.

The clubs who are playing in Champions Cup vote on the Europa Cup and vice versa. Teams not in Europe at all vote on all matches.

by ncfc_Tooze Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:31 pm

cheers viva, will do it now

by FIFA Diva Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:31 pm

Y I Man wrote:
Macclads wrote:Bent though is notorious for moving every time anyone waves a cheque book at him.
After a year?
Villa are hardly going to sell their No9 after a year!

Rules for some, and rules for others it appears...............

Come on YI you know thats not right, look at the other clubs who have offered for Llorente but all have been given a big fat no.

by **Afro** Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:31 pm

sodhat wrote:Problem with Bilbao must be that there isn't really much they can do with the cash...and if Llorente truly is happy there they wouldn't need to move him along unless they were in dire straights.

I offered the £31.6m that is his release clause, so it didn't come down to what Bilbao would or wouldn't accept.

It was entirely about what Llorente would do (based on what has happened in the past).

by Nay Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:33 pm

BigFellasAfro wrote:
sodhat wrote:Problem with Bilbao must be that there isn't really much they can do with the cash...and if Llorente truly is happy there they wouldn't need to move him along unless they were in dire straights.

I offered the £31.6m that is his release clause, so it didn't come down to what Bilbao would or wouldn't accept.

It was entirely about what Llorente would do (based on what has happened in the past).

As did i and he would blatantly have decided that PSG where the place to be over Fiorentina

by **Afro** Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:33 pm

Y I Man wrote:
Macclads wrote:Bent though is notorious for moving every time anyone waves a cheque book at him.
After a year?
Villa are hardly going to sell their No9 after a year!

Rules for some, and rules for others it appears...............

That doesn't really work as the manager who got Bent, was turned down with a bigger offer than yours for Llorente (me)

by **ADMIN** Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:33 pm

Y I Man wrote:
Macclads wrote:Bent though is notorious for moving every time anyone waves a cheque book at him.
After a year?
Villa are hardly going to sell their No9 after a year!

Rules for some, and rules for others it appears...............

How many clubs has Darren Bent been at, every time a big money offer comes in, he moves.

by The Special Juan Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:36 pm

Club Season League[A] FA Cup League Cup Europe Other[B] Total
Apps Goals Apps Goals Apps Goals Apps Goals Apps Goals Apps Goals
Ipswich Town 2001–02[11] 5 1 0 0 1 1 1 0 0 0 7 2
2002–03[12] 35 12 2 3 3 2 3 1 0 0 43 18
2003–04[13] 37 15 1 0 1 0 0 0 2 1 41 16
2004–05[14] 45 20 1 0 2 0 0 0 2 0 50 20
Total 122 48 4 3 7 3 4 1 4 1 141 56
Charlton Athletic 2005–06[104] 36 18 5 2 3 2 0 0 0 0 44 22
2006–07[23] 32 13 0 0 3 2 0 0 0 0 35 15
Total 68 31 5 2 6 4 0 0 0 0 79 37
Tottenham Hotspur 2007–08[33] 27 6 0 0 1 0 8 2 0 0 36 8
2008–09[42] 33 12 1 0 3 1 6 4 0 0 43 17
Total 60 18 1 0 4 1 14 6 0 0 79 25
Sunderland 2009–10[58] 38 24 2 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 40 25
2010–11[70] 20 8 1 1 2 2 0 0 0 0 23 11
Total 58 32 3 2 2 2 0 0 0 0 63 36
Aston Villa 2010–11[70] 16 9 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 16 9
2011–12[105] 21 9 2 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 24 10
Total 37 18 2 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 40 19
Career total 345 147 15 8 20 10 18 7 4 1 402 173

by Guest Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:36 pm

wasnt trebs ibtrested in taking a job on here again?

by The Special Juan Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:38 pm

Well that was a fail :/

4 seasons at Ipswich and 2 seasons everywhere else he's been.

by **Afro** Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:38 pm

Didn't he force through a move to Villa despite Sunderland and Bruce not wanting to sell?

I remember Steve Bruce being very purple with rage

by Guest Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:40 pm

BigFellasAfro wrote:
Y I Man wrote:
Macclads wrote:Bent though is notorious for moving every time anyone waves a cheque book at him.
After a year?
Villa are hardly going to sell their No9 after a year!

Rules for some, and rules for others it appears...............

That doesn't really work as the manager who got Bent, was turned down with a bigger offer than yours for Llorente (me)

I didnt see the Llorente bids last time, but he should have moved then.

Andy Carroll "I want to become a legend in Newcastle. My future will always be here"
What happened?

What players say should be taken with a pinch of salt. If the selling club wants to sell, they will sell.
Bilbao would sell.
Villa would not sell Bent after a year given their squad and where they are in the table.

by The Special Juan Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:41 pm

BigFellasAfro wrote:Didn't he force through a move to Villa despite Sunderland and Bruce not wanting to sell?

I remember Steve Bruce being very purple with rage

As purple as Fergie's nose?

On another note, am I top of the "Posters of the Day" list? How do I check?

by Guest Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:41 pm

cricketfan90 wrote:wasnt trebs ibtrested in taking a job on here again?

by **Afro** Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:42 pm

Y I Man wrote:
BigFellasAfro wrote:
Y I Man wrote:
Macclads wrote:Bent though is notorious for moving every time anyone waves a cheque book at him.
After a year?
Villa are hardly going to sell their No9 after a year!

Rules for some, and rules for others it appears...............

That doesn't really work as the manager who got Bent, was turned down with a bigger offer than yours for Llorente (me)
I didnt see the Llorente bids last time, but he should have moved then.

Andy Carroll "I want to become a legend in Newcastle. My future will always be here"
What happened?

What players say should be taken with a pinch of salt. If the selling club wants to sell, they will sell.
Bilbao would sell.
Villa would not sell Bent after a year given their squad and where they are in the table.

Past history with rumoured bids for both llorente and Bent would suggest differently. I put Llorente in the Neymar category, that it is going to take a really, really big club to sign him

Don't get me wrong, I am quite happy to give Darren Bent back and have Llorente instead Whistle

by **Afro** Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:43 pm

However, whatever point the TP market opens up to the next level of player (next season?), then it might be worth trying again for Llorente

by Guest Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:44 pm

The whole tp system is messed up.
Until its sorted you can get yourself a new Benfica manager.

by **Afro** Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:45 pm

TSC wrote:
BigFellasAfro wrote:Didn't he force through a move to Villa despite Sunderland and Bruce not wanting to sell?

I remember Steve Bruce being very purple with rage

As purple as Fergie's nose?

On another note, am I top of the "Posters of the Day" list? How do I check?

https://www.606v2.com/memberlist?mode=today_posters

Not even top of the FL voters of the day.

by Nay Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:45 pm

BigFellasAfro wrote:
Y I Man wrote:
BigFellasAfro wrote:
Y I Man wrote:
Macclads wrote:Bent though is notorious for moving every time anyone waves a cheque book at him.
After a year?
Villa are hardly going to sell their No9 after a year!

Rules for some, and rules for others it appears...............

That doesn't really work as the manager who got Bent, was turned down with a bigger offer than yours for Llorente (me)
I didnt see the Llorente bids last time, but he should have moved then.

Andy Carroll "I want to become a legend in Newcastle. My future will always be here"
What happened?

What players say should be taken with a pinch of salt. If the selling club wants to sell, they will sell.

Bilbao would sell.
Villa would not sell Bent after a year given their squad and where they are in the table.

Past history with rumoured bids for both llorente and Bent would suggest differently. I put Llorente in the Neymar category, that it is going to take a really, really big club to sign him

Don't get me wrong, I am quite happy to give Darren Bent back and have Llorente instead

this statement has been bookmarked and if anyone in this leagues signs either of these players it is a joke as no teams used fall into the category

by Guest Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:46 pm

are we able to vote on european games yet?

and FFS another manager resigning :facepalm

by ncfc_Tooze Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:47 pm

europe voting done
Tactics will go up this evening as out tommorow

by **Afro** Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:48 pm

Cor blimey.

I would like to see others have a go at TPs.

It all comes down to opinions. You should try doing it and meeting everyones opinion exactly.

They are impossible to do, so they just need to be accepted as they are. Having three different people voting, all with their own opinions, is as fair and consistent as you are going to find in these games.

by Guest Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:51 pm

And you would think that with 3 people doing tp's then at least the right decisions are made, but they are not.
Dont get me wrong, im not spitting my dummy out or anything, but the tp system is totally messed up.
What is the point in me selling Krasic for a realistic TP and being declined, when the likes of Hazard, Eriksen and Ganso are allowed?

by Beer Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:53 pm

Y I Man wrote:And you would think that with 3 people doing tp's then at least the right decisions are made, but they are not.
Dont get me wrong, im not spitting my dummy out or anything, but the tp system is totally messed up.
What is the point in me selling Krasic for a realistic TP and being declined, when the likes of Hazard, Eriksen and Ganso are allowed?

And you mocked me.............MOCKED me when i spat my dummy out.

Hero, urgent PM.

by Guest Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:53 pm

well you are spitting your dummy out..

as you just said, until they are sorted need to find a new benfica manager Headscratch

must admit give the guys a break, they are trying, its clearly not easy...get off their backs about TP'S

(before people say i moan, i never moan about TP'S.)

by **Afro** Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:54 pm

Ganso was a mistake.

Hazard and Eriksen have both shown indications of joining clubs of our size. Llorente has rejected clubs of our size.

As much as I didn't like it at the time, it was the right decision.

by sodhat Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:54 pm

The only mistake with Ganso was that he cost so much Laugh

by The Special Juan Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:56 pm

I think we should all just calm down and wait until the end of the season. I've never had any bad experiences with TP's as of yet but I can understand why those that have are angry. IMO, if you throw enough money at a club, I think they will sell a player regardless of whether he wants to go or not.

Anyway, can't we all wait another few weeks and then have a rethink over everything at the end of the season? My 2¢.

by sodhat Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:56 pm

Aside from that, would it be fairer next time round to conduct TPs and prices paid in reference to an index (e.g. transfermarkt).

At least prices would be consistent (if not decisions to sell) on TPs and then once players are in the league they can be sold for whatever the managers want of course.

I don't envy you runners.

by **Afro** Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:57 pm

Well, the mistake was signing him because he is an injury dud.

But IRL, Santos would not have sold him when he was in the TPs.

by Guest Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:57 pm

TSC wrote:I think we should all just calm down and wait until the end of the season. I've never had any bad experiences with TP's as of yet but I can understand why those that have are angry. IMO, if you throw enough money at a club, I think they will sell a player regardless of whether he wants to go or not.

Anyway, can't we all wait another few weeks and then have a rethink over everything at the end of the season? My 2¢.

bingo

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