Ask The Tart

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By popular demand (Miky), here is a v2 verson of my 606 thread "Ask Me Ref".

As stated on the 606 version, this isn't just for people to ask me questions (I do not consider myself to be the biggest wrestling genius in the world contrary to the impression you get from some of my posts!), it's for people to ask questions and ANYONE who knows the answer to provide it.

This is not an opinion thread, per se. It is for those random wrestling musings you may have had but never got the answer to.

So if there's anything you ever wondered about wrestling, and never knew who to ask, go for it.

Edit - KRD. The first 1000 or so Ask the Tart posts can be found here https://www.606v2.com/t28548-ask-the-tart-archive-1

Dr Gregory House MD wrote:

Enforcer wrote:Following the interview with Zach Gowen, are there any other examples of wrestlers overcoming such extreme physical problems and making it to a major company?

Two I can think of but neither are as extreme as Gowen's

Kerry Von Erich lost his foot in a motercycle crash in 1986 (it was amputated at the time or just after) but still managed to carry on as a top star in World Class and was signed to WWF and became Intercontinental champion in the early 90's with a prosthetic foot.

Flair was told after a plane crash he would never wrestle again aged 26, that doctor needs sacked.

Was Flair found naked and bleeding over his sports jacket?

Adam D wrote:

Dr Gregory House MD wrote:

Enforcer wrote:Following the interview with Zach Gowen, are there any other examples of wrestlers overcoming such extreme physical problems and making it to a major company?

Two I can think of but neither are as extreme as Gowen's

Kerry Von Erich lost his foot in a motercycle crash in 1986 (it was amputated at the time or just after) but still managed to carry on as a top star in World Class and was signed to WWF and became Intercontinental champion in the early 90's with a prosthetic foot.

Flair was told after a plane crash he would never wrestle again aged 26, that doctor needs sacked.

Was Flair found naked and bleeding over his sports jacket?

I reckon Flair was born naked and covered in blood (like most of us I may add) and just thought 'I like this'

Dr Gregory House MD wrote:

Adam D wrote:

Dr Gregory House MD wrote:

Enforcer wrote:Following the interview with Zach Gowen, are there any other examples of wrestlers overcoming such extreme physical problems and making it to a major company?

Two I can think of but neither are as extreme as Gowen's

Kerry Von Erich lost his foot in a motercycle crash in 1986 (it was amputated at the time or just after) but still managed to carry on as a top star in World Class and was signed to WWF and became Intercontinental champion in the early 90's with a prosthetic foot.

Flair was told after a plane crash he would never wrestle again aged 26, that doctor needs sacked.

Was Flair found naked and bleeding over his sports jacket?

I reckon Flair was born naked and covered in blood (like most of us I may add) and just thought 'I like this'

I reckon that when Flair was born and the doctor went to cut the umbilical cord he slipped and ended up cutting Flair's forehead open. On seeing the blood, the newborn Ric Flair decided this was for him, promptly got backdropped by a nurse before stealing his father's cream sports jacket and riding off down the hospital corridor in a wheelchair.

And so a legend was quite literally born.

Do you think instead of the normal baby cry of Waaaaaaaa! he delivered a Woooooooo! instead?

Hero wrote:Do you think instead of the normal baby cry of Waaaaaaaa! he delivered a Woooooooo! instead?

No doubt.

And when the nurse slapped his arse, he tapped out and immediately realised he'd never be able to win a fight with a woman.

theundisputedY2D2 wrote:

Hero wrote:Do you think instead of the normal baby cry of Waaaaaaaa! he delivered a Woooooooo! instead?

No doubt.

And when the nurse slapped his arse, he tapped out and immediately realised he'd never be able to win a fight with a woman.

When young Ric was growing up and he was learning his numbers and letters he had to use the figure 3 leg lock ...

Were there any plans that are known of set in place had HHH won the King of the Ring in 96? That was the plan if I remember correctly, before the Curtain Call incident. This is as close as i'll go for a "what if" moment

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:Were there any plans that are known of set in place had HHH won the King of the Ring in 96? That was the plan if I remember correctly, before the Curtain Call incident. This is as close as i'll go for a "what if" moment

Good question. I think people exaggerate Triple H's punishment; within a few months he was in the IC title scene, which is probably where they were planning for him to be anyway, and he went on to be King of the Ring the following year. I actually think things worked out perfectly for him - that extra year of working in the midcard allowed him to find himself as a performer, and the KotR win in '97 coincided nicely with the beginnings of DX.

It really was only when he was paired with Chyna that he started to get over at all, and over the course of 1997 he gradually got to a point where he shed the blueblood gimmick and the thought of putting him in a rebellious heel faction led by Shawn Michaels became anything other than a ridiculous idea.

In 1996, he was miles away from main event level, as a wrestler, a talker and a gimmick. There was nothing they could have done with him other than what they did, which was feud him with Marc Mero over the IC title. And even then he seemed to be punching above his weight.

In fact, I almost think the decision to award the KotR '96 win to Austin was probably almost as beneficial to Triple H in the long term as it was to Austin himself!

Hi Crips,

I just wondered as i was watching some of The Rock's funniest moments today if there was ever a time that The Rock could of or should of been the number 1 star? In my opinion Steve Austin deserved the number 1 star spot aswell but i also think that The Rock could of been number 1 aswell. I just wondered if there was ever a time that it might of or could of been different. Was there anyone else who could of been the number 1 star in the same time period or was it always destined to be Steve Austin?

Holymiky wrote:Hi Crips,

I just wondered as i was watching some of The Rock's funniest moments today if there was ever a time that The Rock could of or should of been the number 1 star? In my opinion Steve Austin deserved the number 1 star spot aswell but i also think that The Rock could of been number 1 aswell. I just wondered if there was ever a time that it might of or could of been different. Was there anyone else who could of been the number 1 star in the same time period or was it always destined to be Steve Austin?

This question is answered on this week's podcast!

My choices of Val Venis and Billy Gunn weren't well received.  

Fair to say options were limited

Even if choices were limited they should never have dissolved to Ahmed Johnson.

Could Cena win the Rumble as World Champion then face the WWE Champion at WM30 to unitify the Belts?

VDT wrote:Could Cena win the Rumble as World Champion then face the WWE Champion at WM30 to unitify the Belts?

Depending on whether WWE plays up the whole "anyone can enter" gimmick

JoshSansom wrote:

VDT wrote:Could Cena win the Rumble as World Champion then face the WWE Champion at WM30 to unitify the Belts?

Depending on whether WWE plays up the whole "anyone can enter" gimmick

The 2014 Royal Rumble should just have John Cena as all 30 entrants leading to John Cena eliminating John Cena 29 times until the only one left standing is John Cena which means that John Cena is going to Wrestlemania 30!

Then John Cena does the whole annoying 'pointing at the Wrestlemania sign' that everybody seems to do these days.

Thank you very much for answering my "Ask The Tart" question on the podcast Gav, i appreciate it.

We enjoyed it too Miky, cheers for putting it forward  

You are welcome mate and i did enjoy it .

How come certain wrestlers were allowed to keep their names such as John Cena and Randy Orton? I assume with Orton it was because of his Dad but with Cena was it because the WWE knew he'd be massive?

On that note, wouldn't it be better to have Joe Hennig as Joe Hennig to play on who is Dad is and it's better than Curtis Axel.

xviperx wrote: On that note, wouldn't it be better to have Joe Hennig as Joe Hennig to play on who is Dad is and it's better than Curtis Axel.

 
 
I like Curtis Axel, it was going to be Curt Axel but at the last minute they changed it to Curtis Axel cause it sounded too much like Kurt Angle. If you look at when he became the Paul Heyman guy and was introduced, the graphics on the video say Curt Axel. But it is a nod to family history Curt/Curtis because of his dad and axel because of his grandfather Larry "the Ax" Hennig

xviperx wrote:How come certain wrestlers were allowed to keep their names such as John Cena and Randy Orton? I assume with Orton it was because of his Dad but with Cena was it because the WWE knew he'd be massive?

On that note, wouldn't it be better to have Joe Hennig as Joe Hennig to play on who is Dad is and it's better than Curtis Axel.

Back when those guys joined WWE, they weren't as controlling as they are now, believe it or not. Even CM Punk managed to keep his name when he signed up in 2005 but if he were to come in now he would almost certainly be given a generic name like Neil Peters.

The reason WWE does this now is because they don't want anyone getting exposure on WWE programming and then making money in another company using said name. Look at the Dudley Boyz / Team 3D and Mr. Kennedy / Anderson when they left WWE they had to change their names because the 'Dudley Boyz' and 'Mr. Kennedy' are WWE's intellectual property. The only guy in recent memory I can think of who kept their gimmick name after leaving WWE is MVP, and I have no idea how he managed to do that.

I would guess MVP can't be trademarked as it is a normal term and American sports all have MVP awards.

Yeah, I assume he's not called Montel Vontavius Porter when he wrestles in other places. The other thing is that he's supposed to be on really good terms with WWE unlike a lot of others who have left, so it might be with their blessing.

Maybe WWE already trademarked the 'MVP' name for Abe 'Knuckleball' Schwartz?

Heard that Chris Beniot's son David is preparing to start a tag team with Cody Hall in New Japan - Do you think this team could make it to the WWE with both their fathers pasts?

VDT wrote:Heard that Chris Beniot's son David is preparing to start a tag team with Cody Hall in New Japan - Do you think this team could make it to the WWE with both their fathers pasts?

Hall possibly, as his father was never seen on WWE television at his worst. As for Benoit, no chance whatsoever. WWE would never entertain the notion for a second, simply because they want to pretend Chris Benoit never existed. To be honest I can't blame them for that; there is absolutely nothing that WWE can gain by employing Chris Benoit's son.

In an interview, William Regal said to Steve Austin that Randy Savage v Ricky The Dragon Steamboat at Wrestlemania 3 was his favourite match until he found out the truth about it. Do you know what Regal was talking about?

I've heard this a few times over the years, I've never heard anything sinister said about it though, apparently it was due to Macho Man planning this match out meticulously, Steamboat (like Austin & Regal and many others) enjoyed playing off the emotion of the live crowd and calling matches on the fly but Savage was so much more focused on stealing the show that Steamboat felt it was more of a chore.

I think Steamboat went on record as saying his matches with Flair gave him so much more joy as apart from the finishes they would call the match on the fly.

That's exactly what I would take it to mean. The Steamboat match was completely choreographed and practiced in advance.

I bet Regal hasn't expressed that opinion to The Undertaker, who also has tended in recent years to plan his Wrestlemania matches meticulously.

Quick question for anyone.

During the Undertaker & Mankind HIAC match, when Foley gets thrown off the top of the cell JR sounds to me (just for a second) like he didn't know it was going to happen. Now, I know it's all scripted etc etc but just for a moment I wondered if the commentators were told what Taker and Foley were planning on doing or not, or is it just me being daft.

I know as a rule of thumb Jerry Lawler doesn't attend any meetings backstage that involve plots etc so that anything that goes on in the ring he's new to as well.
He would probably say it's to add to the realism. In truth he's just a crap commentator that can't be bothered.

He's probably too busy trying to bed the Divas

Hero wrote:I know as a rule of thumb Jerry Lawler doesn't attend any meetings backstage that involve plots etc so that anything that goes on in the ring he's new to as well.
He would probably say it's to add to the realism. In truth he's just a crap commentator that can't be bothered.

its been years since I've read the dirts but I do remember reading that Jerry Lawler does attend those meetings now, he didn't right up until JR got drafted to SmackDown! but after that draft Lawler was considered the main commentator on RAW even though Cole was the Play by Play guy, whether thats changed since then I have no idea.

Afternoon all, I have 2 quick questions.

I was reading a lot of Wrestlemania stuff this past week and an article I read mentioned some matches that 'nearly happened' but never did for one reason or another. These include Flair v Hogan and Austin v Hogan. One that caught my attention was Vince vs Mick Foley at Wrestlemania 17 (Foley was ref in the Vince v Shane match). Does anyone know what the reasons were why this never happened? Was Foley not fit enough?

Another on this list of nearly matches was Kane v X-Pac at Mania 2000. They wrestled in a tag match (with Rikishi and Road Dogg respectively). Did they not trust the 2 of them to have a decent match at Wrestlemania or were they just trying to get more people on the card?

Mick Foley himself cleared that one up a few years ago, he said that back then he didn't feel he'd ever Wrestle again so turned the match down, he lists it as one of his 3 biggest wrestling related regrets along with not Wrestling on the Eddie Gilbert memorial show and not writing the foreword to Lou Thesz book

Interesting, cheers KF   

A Vince/Foley match would have been pretty good I reckon. Especially at that time.

Also the whole Kane/X-Pac thing, I remember reading somewhere that some agent at the time was pushing for a barbed wire cage match between the two of them but Vince kicked it into touch, the main reason the 1 on 1 didn't happen though is because Kane broke his wrist so thet made it a tag match to protect him a bit

If you read that WWE article on Womble (unless you found this elsewhere) I believe it clears them all up.

Cheers for your answers lads, appreciate it.

I was reading an article about Dean Ambrose sticking it to Rene Young and in the comment section there was a reference about Dean having the nickname "Titty Master"

You got any idea why?  Can't say ive heard him being called that ever.

Someone needs to bring that sign to Raw one day. It would make a great WWE shirt.

Im  sure Hero probably knows  

The story doing the rounds is Ambrose wrote 'Titty master' on his wrist wrap once, and it was picked up on camera, hence the nickname.

I love how it looks like Roman Reigns is holding the sign for Dean haha

Im just impressed that he got away with writing that on his wrist tape and the fan got that sign into the arena    It has lead to some quality meme's

It amazes me the level that some of the fangirls go to over Ambrose, it's borderline obsessive and one was wanting $500 for one of his worn vests the other day, the bitch wouldn't lower it to the $400 I was offering.

What do you think of adults who wear John Cena shirts?

Crimey wrote:What do you think of adults who wear John Cena shirts?

I hope the government doesn't cut their funding.

Is Crippledtart still around? I miss that guy.

I believe he was chased off of the internet for calling John Cena fan's retards. He was lynched as a lesson to all of us.

Is that a serious comment or what?