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WWE RAW Results
By Bill Pritchard for Wrestlezone.com
February 27th 2012

CM Punk comes out for his match against Daniel Bryan, but Chris Jericho walks out instead of Bryan and tells Punk he is the best in the world but he didn't need to write it on a shirt. He says he is part of a dying breed, but he was a star before he got there and he had a chip on his shoulder and a bad rep in the back. Jericho says Punk is just like him, but it is because he is a Jericho wannabe like everyone else, and Punk tells him to stop. Jericho tries to cut him off but Punk says they are sick of listening, and Punk says his problem is that Jericho said he stole from him because he earned everything he has. Punk says Jericho didn't invent being the best, because he used to watch Bret Hart and asks if Jericho invented Bret or Canada. Jericho says he should laugh it up, but this is on another level because of all he has done in his career including facing legends and great moments.

Jericho says he proves that he is the best, but Punk says his voice and body language say otherwise because it sounds like he have something to prove to himself. Punk says they fought from the same places and made it, but Punk surpassed him and Jericho might have beaten Stone Cold and The Rock in the same night, but he was never the man. He says he is the best wrestler, and he swims with sharks while Jericho dances with stars and goes on game shows. Jericho says he is a bigger star than Punk and he felt ripped off, and all of the videos and fancy ring gear won't matter when he just proves that he is the best in the world. Punk says all he needs to do is point as his title and Jericho didn't need to jump him for attention, but Wrestlemania won't be the end of the world it will just be the end of his.

Champion vs Champion
CM Punk vs Daniel Bryan (w/ AJ)

John Laurinaitis and David Otunga come out to ringside with Teddy Long and Santino Marella, and Bryan jumps Punk in the corner and hits him a few times. Punk fights him off and throws some elbows while everyone else sits down at commentary, then Punk throws another elbow at Bryan and sends him to the floor as we go to a break. We get back and see Bryan kicking Punk in the corner, but Punk chops him then throws another elbow and gets a crossbody for two. Punk works on Bryan's arm, but Bryan knocks him down and drops a knee before kicking him in the chest.

Punk comes back with kicks of his own and some knees to the back, then he sends Bryan out to the floor and sets up for a plancha but AJ gets in the way. Bryan uses the distraction to attack Punk, then he throws him into the ring steps and rolls in the ring as we go to another break. Bryan has Punk in an abdominal stretch when we get back, but Punk escapes the hold and avoids a dropkick, then clotheslines Bryan a few times and drops him with a neckbreaker. Punk hits a running knee and goes for a bulldog, but Bryan shoves him off so Punk bodyslams him and hits a top rope elbow. Punk gets up slowly but ends up calling for the GTS, only to have David Otunga jump on the apron and he runs interference while Bryan tries to apply the LeBell Lock.

Punk escapes then both guys collide, and Santino knocks Otunga out with the Cobra then John shoves Santino off the apron. Bryan tries leaving with AJ but Sheamus runs out and throws him in the ring, and Punk hits a GTS but John runs in and tells the ref to stop everything. Teddy ends up getting in the ring and shoves John down and they scream in each other's faces while Punk walks up the ramp and gets attacked by Jericho. He bodyslams Punk on the top of the stage then puts him in the (REAL) Walls Of Jericho until referees run out and make him break the hold. Jericho holds up the WWE Championship and tells Punk he should enjoy it now because it will be his in four weeks, then drops the title and leaves.

Result - No Contest

Kelly Kelly vs Nikki Bella

Kelly dives at Nikki and hits a Thesz press, but Nikki comes back and throws her head into the mat then hits a snapmare dive for a two count. Nikki kicks Kelly in the corner and runs at her, but Kelly trips her up then knocks her down with a spinning headscissors and a bulldog. Brie tries to check on her sister but Kelly kicks her off the apron, then rolls through a pin attempt by Nikki and gets a bridging pin for the win.

Winner - Kelly Kelly

Miz says he will get to Cena but he has something to get off his chest, and he says there is no one who works harder than him including Cean himself. Miz goes over all of the interviews and press events he does, and says he isn't on the Wrestlemania card yet and says the fans would probably like that. He says it is a crime and he will make it right, and he will do it by beating the same guy he beat at last year's Wrestlemania because he's the Miz, and he's awesome.

John Cena vs The Miz

Miz hits the ropes and gets hiptossed, then Cena whips him into the corner and drops him with a fisherman's suplex and follows it with an elbow off the ropes. Cena goes for an AA but Miz counters with a breaker combo and a running knee lift for two, then Miz chokes him near the ropes. Cena comes back with a backdrop and a running clothesline, then he pulls Miz near the center and sets up a suplex but Miz floats over and plants him with a DDT. Miz continues the attack with a diving clothesline before heading to the top rope, but Cena ducks when he jumps and hits a shoulder tackle and a side slam. Cena picks him back up and drops him with an Attitude Adjustment, then jumps up and pulls Miz in and gets him to tap to the STF.

Winner - John Cena

Triple Threat WWE Tag Team Championship
R-Truth & Kofi Kingston vs Dolph Ziggler & Jack Swagger (w/ Vickie Guerrero) vs Primo & Epico (c) (w/ Rosa Mendes)

Primo runs the ropes and gets knocked down by a side kick by Kofi, then he monkey flips Dolph and Primo before making the tag to Truth. Primo gets knocked to the floor then Truth fights with Epico on the apron, but Swagger runs in and hits him then spears Kofi to the floor as we go to a break. When we get back, Truth catches Primo with a sunset flip for two, then Swagger kicks Truth and Dolph chokes him behind the ref's back. Swagger and Primo argue with each other, then Dolph dropkicks Truth and Primo steals the pin attempt and they also argue after Dolph breaks it up. Truth makes a comeback and hits a double DDT, then all three teams make tags but Kofi jumps in and dropkicks the other two men.

Kofi kicks Swagger in the corner and connects with a crossbody, but Epico breaks it up so Kofi bodyslams him on Swagger and hits a double Boom Drop. He sets up Trouble In Paradise but Dolph stops him and Truth sends him outside, then Swagger avoids a Backstabber by Epico and puts him in an ankle lock. Kofi knocks him out with Trouble In Paridise, but Primo rolls in and hits a Backstabber then pulls Epico over to make the cover on Swagger to retain. The lights go out after the bell and Kane makes his way to the ring and kicks Primo in the chest, then he double chokeslams Dolph and Epico. Kane fights off Truth and chokeslams him, then raises his arms and gets his pyro to go off before looking around and leaving everyone in the ring.

Winners - Primo & Epico

John Laurinaitis and David Otunga are talking about the Oscars when Teddy Long walks in and John tells him to get out of his office. Teddy says he doesn't want to be there, but he has some news for him and says he heard John won't be in charge next week. John says he also heard that Teddy will have to buy a ticket to next week's show because he was fired. They bicker a bit more and Teddy calls him a horse's ass before leaving and Otunga says he can't believe it.

Eve comes out to the ring and hears "hoeski" chants, but Eve says they can think whatever they want because she is a woman working in a man's world. Eve says men love her and there isn't a guy there who wouldn't mind being used by her, then she says she didn't ask for it. She says men crumble at her feet and they shouldn't blame her strengths and instead need to look at their weaknesses then she leaves the ring. Eve heads backstage and runs into Kelly Kelly backstage, and Kelly asks her why she is asking like a different person. Eve just laughs at her and walks away, then Alicia Fox walks over to Kelly and shakes her head as we go to a shot of Big Show and Sheamus getting ready.

Cody Rhodes & Mark Henry vs Big Show & Sheamus

Cody plays another "Embarrassing Big Show Moment" on the Titantron, then the bell rings so Show beats the hell out of Henry in the corner. He goes after Cody but he runs away, so Sheamus tags Show while he leaves the ring to yell at Cody and Sheamus hits a Brogue Kick for the win. Show screams at Cody and asks where he is going, then Sheamus and Show leave together while the referee looks at Henry in the ring.

Winners - Big Show & Sheamus

The Rock comes out to a huge ovation and he says he wants them to look at him now, because he is really there and he has goosebumps right now. He says this all feels good, then takes a drink of water while the fans chant 'boots to asses' and he says they are going to have a lot of chants tonight. Rock says it may be a surprise to some, but he is not there every week but he used to be because he was born there. He says he would be nothing without them, and he said he would never leave again but that didn't mean he would be at every single RAW and Smackdown. Rock says he is talking to someone in the back, and he hopes they didn't take it literally because the fans know his heart and soul are there. He says he is only there because he loves WWE and it will always be a part of him, and he thought John Cena was a phony a few years ago.

Rock says he found out Cena was the real deal because of what he said last week, but Cena says he has to go through people to talk to him when he has Rock's number. Rock says he doesn't want to talk because he has seen Cena in the back, and he wants to slap him with a piece of kung pao chicken because he is a kung pao bitch. He says Cena said something last week that got to him, and he says Cena is going to fight at Wrestlemania for all of the people who love wrestling. He says he learned long ago that no one fights for him, and no one fought when he was a good guy and got booed unmercifully. Rock says no one fought for other stars like Randy Savage and Roddy Piper because they were men, but Rock says he fights for the people.

Rock says he fights for the people because they are sick of the same kung pao bitch being shoved down their throats, then the fans chant 'kung pao bitch.' He says that is trending now, and the fans are telling Cena they are tired of him but that doesn't mean they don't want to miss out on being entertained. Rock says he coined 'fruity pebbles' and got Cena on a cereal box, then they chant 'lady parts' and 'Rocky' and he says he wants Cena to listen to them. He says they want to have fun but all Cena did this year is change his jean shorts to camoflage shorts, and it must be working because Cena's balls are missing. The fans chant 'missing balls' and Cena comes out and says he wasn't going to miss it because it is all perfect because Rock runs around and does his schtick.

Cena says he runs Rock down whether he is there or not, and he doesn't like Rock because he is a self-centered bitch who wouldn't care if WWE closed. Cena says he speaks the truth and doesn't need to write his lines down, and the fans will see Cena against Rock, but he is going to be looking at Dwayne at Wrestlemania. He says Rock will make his chest bounce and he might not have balls, but he is the guy who will kick his ass and tells him to keep trending and drops the mic and leaves. Rock says that is just like him to run his mouth and leave before he gets hit, but Cena needs to stop confusing people because Dwayne and Rock are the same person. He says Cena comes out and acts tough, but he is electrifying and will go on to kick his monkey ass if you smell what the Rock is cookin!

I'm looking forward to watching Raw later I've heard the REAL Walls of Jericho is applied!

Punk dissed the jacket?!?!?

He's dead to me.

There is no way Rock's cheat notes is a work.

He CLEARLY looks at them.

Cena calling him out may be a work, but he used them.

King Beer wrote:There is no way Rock's cheat notes is a work.

He CLEARLY looks at them.

Cena calling him out may be a work, but he used them.

Ofcourse they were work, Hollywood actors don't need there lines written on there arm. Back in the day The Rock and Foley would go out to the ring, and cut promo's without planning anything. They would just go out there and improvise everything.

Definitely a shoot.

Rock looked like he was seconds away from smacking Cena.

King Beer wrote:There is no way Rock's cheat notes is a work.

He CLEARLY looks at them.

Cena calling him out may be a work, but he used them.

Didn't notice myself but I'll take your word for it.

They were so batant though, never seen anything like it before and you know what the internets like there would be pictures everywhere if he regularly used em.

King Beer wrote:Definitely a shoot.

Rock looked like he was seconds away from smacking Cena.

That would be acting, no?

DDT wrote:

King Beer wrote:There is no way Rock's cheat notes is a work.

He CLEARLY looks at them.

Cena calling him out may be a work, but he used them.

Ofcourse they were work, Hollywood actors don't need there lines written on there arm. Back in the day The Rock and Foley would go out to the ring, and cut promo's without planning anything. They would just go out there and improvise everything.

Yep, but sometimes you need little tips and reminders, clever things to say.

Do me a favour, watch the promo, and right before he talks about Portland trending, watch the camera angle and watch him.

Ent wrote:

King Beer wrote:Definitely a shoot.

Rock looked like he was seconds away from smacking Cena.

That would be acting, no?

Don't buy it mate. Too much tension for that and you could tell by the reaction of Cena that he knew he'd potentially crossed a line.

King Beer wrote:

Ent wrote:

King Beer wrote:Definitely a shoot.

Rock looked like he was seconds away from smacking Cena.

That would be acting, no?

Don't buy it mate. Too much tension for that and you could tell by the reaction of Cena that he knew he'd potentially crossed a line.

Not sure I buy it, it's a risky game to be paying if he genuinely did an unauthorised shoot on it - in this situation he is really gambling on the fact that Rock is such a professional and does whats best for business, if there was any chance Rock would have shot back with a barb on his lack of in ring skills etc he would have kept quiet.

Still think it was a work, I mean you've seen the picture, the cheat notes were huge - like that skit in the simpsons involving the guy with the massive hand.

Ent wrote:

King Beer wrote:

Ent wrote:

King Beer wrote:Definitely a shoot.

Rock looked like he was seconds away from smacking Cena.

That would be acting, no?

Don't buy it mate. Too much tension for that and you could tell by the reaction of Cena that he knew he'd potentially crossed a line.

Not sure I buy it, it's a risky game to be paying if he genuinely did an unauthorised shoot on it - in this situation he is really gambling on the fact that Rock is such a professional and does whats best for business, if there was any chance Rock would have shot back with a barb on his lack of in ring skills etc he would have kept quiet.

Still think it was a work, I mean you've seen the picture, the cheat notes were huge - like that skit in the simpsons involving the guy with the massive hand.

They didn't appear that much, only in a few shots.

Cena has to get to Rock any way he can as we all know what Rock can say to Cena. I wouldn't be surprised if Cena got the nod from the back to make that comment as its not something you would want being highlighted.

King Beer wrote:

Ent wrote:

King Beer wrote:

Ent wrote:

King Beer wrote:Definitely a shoot.

Rock looked like he was seconds away from smacking Cena.

That would be acting, no?

Don't buy it mate. Too much tension for that and you could tell by the reaction of Cena that he knew he'd potentially crossed a line.

Not sure I buy it, it's a risky game to be paying if he genuinely did an unauthorised shoot on it - in this situation he is really gambling on the fact that Rock is such a professional and does whats best for business, if there was any chance Rock would have shot back with a barb on his lack of in ring skills etc he would have kept quiet.

Still think it was a work, I mean you've seen the picture, the cheat notes were huge - like that skit in the simpsons involving the guy with the massive hand.

They didn't appear that much, only in a few shots.

Cena has to get to Rock any way he can as we all know what Rock can say to Cena. I wouldn't be surprised if Cena got the nod from the back to make that comment as its not something you would want being highlighted.

Yeah but you could see them clearly early on in the promo. Rock can say a lot of stuff to cena, but he won't because he will do what is best for business.

I'm not sure if I'd prefer this to have been a shoot from cena or authorised from the back, it would say a lot for the Rock if he has willingly comeback to be booked as second best to cena - a man who is an embarassing performer, never mind wrestler.

I'd hate to see cena go over clean, but I could accept it - what I can't accept is the rock willingly sullying his legacy by agreeing to severe restrictions on his promoing to let cena appear better than him. It would be a dark day for wrestling.

What i mean is that he may of got the nod to say it without Rock's permission and then Vince would smooth it over.

King Beer wrote:What i mean is that he may of got the nod to say it without Rock's permission and then Vince would smooth it over.

Do you think that Vince would do that to the rock? I'm not so sure.

I also think we are sailing dangerously close to the wind, Cena has basically told all and sunder that promos are scripted and rehearsed in order to get one over on the rock - it's a bit unprofessional/not wise. What next admitting the tables are plywood, the chairs are padded, none of it is real?

Not sure he's gone far.

I think he's tried to get one over on the most talented man on the mic by trying to undermine him and embarass him for using a few cheat notes.

That's exactly the kind of thing Vince would do to try and get Cena in the mix.

King Beer wrote:Not sure he's gone far.

I think he's tried to get one over on the most talented man on the mic by trying to undermine him and embarass him for using a few cheat notes.

That's exactly the kind of thing Vince would do to try and get Cena in the mix.

Whilst it's got people talking, do you think it worked? Rock seemed pretty relaxed when he was cutting his promo off air. Clearly you have to have skin like a rhino (or a tongue like gene simmons) to work for Vince McMahon.

The whole affair just highlights to me how bad a performer Cena is (ignoring him in ring), Miz was cutting a serious promo and getting some good heat and cena was just doing his usual goofy smile and surprised face and gesturing to the crowd.

Even when he came out to confront the rock he was just sarcastic and grinning after 15 minutes of being ran down and thousands of people chanting he has no testicles.

He is getting booked to have the upper hand in these things but he could at least deliver consistently well, to me he looks like the guy who knows he will be getting the win and is really doing the minimal to sell it to people (as usual).

Think he calmed down in all honesty.

The whole issue here is what ammo Cena has, he has used. Rock still has his full weaponry to open and this for me is going to be crucial to how they book it.

Rock has to fire back properly, and i'm hoping over the next 3 weeks he will slowly break Cena and that with the crowd continually being in favour of Rock that it will be the catalyst for the Cena turn.

Apologies if this has already been brought up and sorry to distract from the whole rock/cena conversation

http://vids.wwe.com/16285/wwecom-exclusive-triple-h-interr

taken during the commercial break after the Miz's match up. Seriously who has this guy p!ssed off?

King Beer wrote:Think he calmed down in all honesty.

The whole issue here is what ammo Cena has, he has used. Rock still has his full weaponry to open and this for me is going to be crucial to how they book it.

Rock has to fire back properly, and i'm hoping over the next 3 weeks he will slowly break Cena and that with the crowd continually being in favour of Rock that it will be the catalyst for the Cena turn.

I am hoping for this, like you say if Rock gets fired up by cenas jibe there could be fireworks.

Maybe I'm a pessimist but I see cena being made to look as good as if not better than Rock on the mic and going over clean with a handshake at mania - and for the viewers to desert in droves.

gazzyD wrote:Apologies if this has already been brought up and sorry to distract from the whole rock/cena conversation

http://vids.wwe.com/16285/wwecom-exclusive-triple-h-interr

taken during the commercial break after the Miz's match up. Seriously who has this guy p!ssed off?

Not sure but all he can do is keep plugging away, he really can work a crowd - imagine if Ziggler or Rhodes were able to draw that kind of heat.

Yeah. The crowd reaction he was getting on the way to the ring was some serious heat

I know Rock has a hell of a lot left in the locker, and it may well have been intentional to hold back (I hope so), because that promo was painful, slow, self-indulgent, crap - fuelled by moronic sycophantic Americans who would chant Osama Bin Laden if Rock said it. I was very... very bored by it.

Rock looked shaken by Cena's "wrist notes" comment.

As mentioned above - Punk and Jericho showed how you do it. Long pauses, fake humility, ridiculous chants, and Twitter, bloody Twitter references do not make for entertaining TV.

The funniest bit was Cena saying "Kung Pow CHicken - its funny because every Chinese restaurant it's there" - it was a Stewart Lee like destruction of a joke

The one thing I will say is The Rock is in a position were he can say pretty much anything he wants in a promo, even if Vince doesn't agree with it. What can Vince do? It's not like he's going to fire him. It's kind of like HHH and Taker with the chair shots to the head at last years WM, or Punk's promo in the summer. Vince obviously was going mad about what they did, but he can't do alot, as he knows how important those wrestlers are to the success of his company.

I just hope we see the Rock let loose on Cena over the next few weeks, like he was in the old days. I really want to see the Rock get Cena with 'IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU THINK!' at some stage.

So far the Rock's character doesn't seem to be the one we all knew and loved from the attitude era, don't get me wrong he's still funny, but not quite were he was. I cant believe the Rock's mic skills have declined over the years, as if anything he should be even better with all the acting he's been doing. I just think maybe he is being asked to hold back a little, by guys like Vince, but at some stage I'm hoping he shows his true colours.

We wana see the Jabroni beatin, L-l-l-l-loud, Pie eatin, Trail blazin, Eyebrow raisin, Heart stoppin, Elbow droppin, Peoples champ THE ROCK!

He didn't use any lines like that last night, I just hope we see that Rock back soon, because Cena wouldn't last 30 seconds up against the Rocks best lines.

Maybe Vince doesn't want the Rock behaving the way he used to, maybe he's asked him to tone it down a little, as he's worried The Rock will win over even the kids that support Cena, who weren't around to see The Rock. The Rock is only a part timer these days, so he might not think it is a good idea to let The Rock loose, and bury his biggest star.

If you check last weeks Raw spoler thread, you will see me banging on about how John Cena completely owned The Rock in his promo. And after watching this show last night, I have to say The Rock completely owned him back. Im loving it right now. I am a fan of both guys and sit firmly on the fence in this (probably the only person on there!!!).

There will be people who always moan about Cena for obvious reasons and people who moan about The Rock and his promos but some people are never happy. I am thoroughly enjoying this feud.

Watched bits of Raw last night, mainly the Jericho/Punk and Rock/Cena segments.

Jericho is annoying me with the amount of times he keeps saying 'Best in the world at everything that i do', apart from that i thought the promo was great. Punk was gold again and if you compare the way he carries himself now to that of a year ago the difference is massive. He actually looks like 'the man' now. Confidence is flowing, he's got swagger, presence and power and after 6 years has finally become a top star. I've said it before and i'll say it again - this match will steal the show, its got Meltzer 5 star rated written all over it.

The Rock. I hate the whole 'trending worldwide' thing, its so lame. Apart from that the guy is magic, however i have to defend Cena because when he came out, he made his statement with intent and left with a purpose. I really like the way Cena is conducting himself in this fued. The WWE are ridiculously good at producing video packages to hype up matches, and i imagine when we see the last video package for this one it will leave alot of people pumped for it. I've totally brought into it, it is a massive match and i seriously cant pick the winner. Which is how Wrestlemania main events should be.

I reckon either Rock or Cena will win.

The only thing i hated about the promo was the fact he kept saying 'John' and that he knew he was in the back.

If Cena came out and delibrately embarassed an unaware Rock like that then Cena is as unprofessional as the Rock's promo was long winded.

Having said that, I think the whole thing is a work. The whole feud has been a 2-3 year long work, and quite frankly it's brilliant. Rock embarassed Cena last time they were on the same show (Survivor Series), so its only fair Cena gets a couple of promo wins over Rocky.

As previously mentioned, Rocky was the king of adlibbing. He may have lost a step or two, but I can't imagine Rocky ever being lost for words like he was after Cena's drop-in. And at the same time Rock is now a professional actor, remembering lines is half of his job. Why would he suddenly need cribs back in his natural environment.

Regardless of all that, as hyped as we all were for this promo by Rocky, the next one is going to be even more important as a retort. I can't wait.

JJJohnson I whole heartedly agree with everything you said in your post/promo, Cena is a cancer in wrestling and I think he is actually to blame for the formation of the PG era.

So they've banned chair shots to the head and blood, there are still chamber matches, hell in a cell matches, street fights, falls count anywhere matches, a whole TLC pay per view. This stuff still isn't for little kiddies, it makes no sense, especially as "child friendly" Cena himself has participated in most of these matches himself.

harryspiv wrote:JJJohnson I whole heartedly agree with everything you said in your post/promo, Cena is a cancer in wrestling and I think he is actually to blame for the formation of the PG era.

So they've banned chair shots to the head and blood, there are still chamber matches, hell in a cell matches, street fights, falls count anywhere matches, a whole TLC pay per view. This stuff still isn't for little kiddies, it makes no sense, especially as "child friendly" Cena himself has participated in most of these matches himself.

Yes because it all came down to Cena. Cena made the final decision to go P.G.

Vince - "I think we are all agreed to go in the direction of P.G. but we still need John Cena to get back to us and get his final say so"

HHH " But Vince Im fine with it, your fine with it everybody is fine with it, so lets go ahead with it"

Vince "But Cena has to make the final decision"


Cena would have no say in the direction of the company, he may have a degree of sway when it comes to his character but not the direction, all he has done is just embaced it and who could blame him. I would do the same for millions, unlike someone like Batista who didn't like it and left.

I agree with parts of JJJohnson's post but on the whole i largely disagree with it. To say Cena is a cancer in wrestling is purely your opinion and an opinion probably shared with the IWC Attitude Era fanboys. From a business perspective, John Cena is detrimental to the WWE and has been the most financially beneficial superstar for the last 5 years. Just because you dont like the direction the company has gone you automatically pinpoint the guy who has been at the forefront of the company and call him a cancer for basically being told how to do his job.

Let me ask you this, how damn good would Cena have been in the attitude era? Given his own attitude, aggression and passion. If the WWE had been in an Attitude Era for the last 5 years then JJJohnson wouldnt have written that piece about Cena because his character would be much more likeable in that kind of era. The PG era is not John Cena's fault, thats possibly the dumbest thing ive heard.

For the record i also prefer the Attitude Era but just because we're in PG doesnt take away the possibilty of good, solid storylines with well thought out booking. This is why the product is floundering, not because of a PG era, its because the product doesnt capture you with well thought out and intruging fueds. And for that the blame lies with WWE management, the creative writers and mainly - Vince McMahon. Not John Cena.

Mr H wrote:I agree with parts of JJJohnson's post but on the whole i largely disagree with it. To say Cena is a cancer in wrestling is purely your opinion and an opinion probably shared with the IWC Attitude Era fanboys. From a business perspective, John Cena is detrimental to the WWE and has been the most financially beneficial superstar for the last 5 years. Just because you dont like the direction the company has gone you automatically pinpoint the guy who has been at the forefront of the company and call him a cancer for basically being told how to do his job.

Let me ask you this, how damn good would Cena have been in the attitude era? Given his own attitude, aggression and passion. If the WWE had been in an Attitude Era for the last 5 years then JJJohnson wouldnt have written that piece about Cena because his character would be much more likeable in that kind of era. The PG era is not John Cena's fault, thats possibly the dumbest thing ive heard.

For the record i also prefer the Attitude Era but just because we're in PG doesnt take away the possibilty of good, solid storylines with well thought out booking. This is why the product is floundering, not because of a PG era, its because the product doesnt capture you with well thought out and intruging fueds. And for that the blame lies with WWE management, the creative writers and mainly - Vince McMahon. Not John Cena.

Couldnt agree more!!!

Mr H wrote:I agree with parts of JJJohnson's post but on the whole i largely disagree with it. To say Cena is a cancer in wrestling is purely your opinion and an opinion probably shared with the IWC Attitude Era fanboys. From a business perspective, John Cena is detrimental to the WWE and has been the most financially beneficial superstar for the last 5 years. Just because you dont like the direction the company has gone you automatically pinpoint the guy who has been at the forefront of the company and call him a cancer for basically being told how to do his job.

Let me ask you this, how damn good would Cena have been in the attitude era? Given his own attitude, aggression and passion. If the WWE had been in an Attitude Era for the last 5 years then JJJohnson wouldnt have written that piece about Cena because his character would be much more likeable in that kind of era. The PG era is not John Cena's fault, thats possibly the dumbest thing ive heard.

For the record i also prefer the Attitude Era but just because we're in PG doesnt take away the possibilty of good, solid storylines with well thought out booking. This is why the product is floundering, not because of a PG era, its because the product doesnt capture you with well thought out and intruging fueds. And for that the blame lies with WWE management, the creative writers and mainly - Vince McMahon. Not John Cena.

Its well publicised that Cena has the ear of Vince. He's been in the same position as a lot of the other talent around nowadays in the sense that he had to wait for his turn, do the jobs, and build his way up. Problem is i genuinely think even though John probably knows that the best thing for the business is for him to elevated the next person he doesn't want to do it. And why would he? Why step aside from being THE face of the WWE to let somebody have a shot?

That would all be fine if Cena wasn't the one standing face to face with The Rock saying he's fighting for those in the back, because believe me, there are plenty of people in that backstage that would LOVE to be headlining Wrestlemania against The Rock. He's telling the Rock that he's there day in and day out doing what he loves, when in reality, what he's also doing is stopping people who have worked just as hard and for just as long to get their shot.

How many watered down Cena title runs have we have to suffer? How many boring, shouty, samey promo's do we have to get a year? How many people will continue to get buried because the WWE are too scared to put them over? Even veterans like Kane?

The John Cena/Cancer anaology is spot on, however it's the bigger picture....

John Cena is the Cancer that courses through the veins of the body of Vince McMahons 100 cigarette a day company. And the biggest problem is there is no cure. No chemo. No life support machine.

John Cena is a double edge sword. He has the potential to kill wrestling, but could also save it.

Cena wouldn't last in the attitude era. He'd be mid-card/upper mid-card at best.

Totally agree.

Cena doesn't match up to attitude era versions of Taker, Austin, Angle, Jericho, Rock, Kane and HHH. They would eat him alive.

Disagree, i think he'd flourish, especially on the stick with license to be a hell of alot edgier.

Disagree, he'd still be samey, boring and his rapper gimmick would never get over.

I think he would have done ok in the Attitude era with his rapper gimmick. There were plenty of naff gimmicks and poor wrestlers around in them days.

The post-Attitude era of the 'Smackdown Six', I'm not sure. He would have stood out like a sore thumb compared to some of the 'pure wrestlers' of that era. Either that or he would have been buried on RAW by HHH like everyone else.