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The 107% Rule
by theundisputedY2D2 Fri 25 Mar 2011, 10:27 am
Just read on the BBC website that they're re-introducing the 107% rule for qualifying this season.
What do you make of that decision?
What do you make of that decision?
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Re: The 107% Rule
by Fernando Fri 25 Mar 2011, 10:39 am
its a good decision means if you ain't quick enough to keep up with even the people at the back you shouldn't be racing in that race.
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Re: The 107% Rule
by cosicave Fri 25 Mar 2011, 3:07 pm
I think reintroducing the 107% rule is a good thing now that we have a larger grid of cars. It is an important safety consideration, due to potentially large differences in performance.
For anyone whose mental arithmetic is good, don't bother reading the following, but this may help to visualise the likely time needed for qualification. It is a very rough, quick method of calculation.
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Imagine a Pole Position time of 1:40.000 (100 secs). In this case, a lap time must not be slower than 1:47.000. (100s + 7s)
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Obviously a quicker Pole time (e.g. a 50 second lap) reduces the difference allowed; in this case 107% equates to 53.500 secs. (50s + 3.5s)
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Most F1 lap times sit a little over the middle of these extremes and a Pole time of 1:15.000 (75 secs) equates to 1:19.750 (75s + 4.75s).
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Melbourne's Pole time this year is likely to be around 82 secs, a little over the last example, meaning that the 7% will equate to almost 6 seconds extra time for (dare I say it?) Hispania…
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For anyone whose mental arithmetic is good, don't bother reading the following, but this may help to visualise the likely time needed for qualification. It is a very rough, quick method of calculation.
∆
Imagine a Pole Position time of 1:40.000 (100 secs). In this case, a lap time must not be slower than 1:47.000. (100s + 7s)
∆
Obviously a quicker Pole time (e.g. a 50 second lap) reduces the difference allowed; in this case 107% equates to 53.500 secs. (50s + 3.5s)
∆
Most F1 lap times sit a little over the middle of these extremes and a Pole time of 1:15.000 (75 secs) equates to 1:19.750 (75s + 4.75s).
∆
Melbourne's Pole time this year is likely to be around 82 secs, a little over the last example, meaning that the 7% will equate to almost 6 seconds extra time for (dare I say it?) Hispania…
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Re: The 107% Rule
by Legend Fri 25 Mar 2011, 7:11 pm
Please could someone explain what this rule is about. Cheers 
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Re: The 107% Rule
by Guest Fri 25 Mar 2011, 7:18 pm
Basically it stipulates that if a driver does not lap within 107% of the pole position time during qualification he will not be eligible to compete in the race, subject to the discretion of the stewards.
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Re: The 107% Rule
by cosicave Sat 26 Mar 2011, 9:48 pm
Legend wrote:shouldn't it be the 7% rule then?
Not really, although saying one must not be more than 7% slower than Pole time is the same thing, speaking of being 7% slower tends to be less intuitive. With a 1:20.000 lap, most people do
not find it quite so intuitive to work out what 7% equates to.
It's easier to work out the calculation if it is additive. For a lap of 1:20.000: {80sec x 107) = 8560. (This is a lap time of 85.6 seconds, or 1:25.600)
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Re: The 107% Rule
by Stealth Maestro Agro Love Sun 27 Mar 2011, 5:53 pm
theundisputedY2D2 wrote:Just read on the BBC website that they're re-introducing the 107% rule for qualifying this season.
What do you make of that decision?
Great decision. It's pointless having a team like Hispania racing in F1 if they are so slow they are guaranteed to finish 23rd and 24th. I might as well join F1 in my own road car if they are allowed in.
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Re: The 107% Rule
by Gregers Mon 28 Mar 2011, 12:28 pm
Do you think any other teams, apart from Hispania (who frankly do not deserve to be in qualifying at this rate) will be caught out by the 107% rule.
Oh and where does this leave a driver who crashes in Q1 and cannot get a lap in? Would he be allowed to start from the pitlane/back of the grid as before or would he not be allowed to race?
Oh and where does this leave a driver who crashes in Q1 and cannot get a lap in? Would he be allowed to start from the pitlane/back of the grid as before or would he not be allowed to race?
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Re: The 107% Rule
by cosicave Tue 29 Mar 2011, 10:16 am
I do not think others are likely to fall foul of the 107% rule, although Virgin have no room for complacency.
As for Gregers question about mishap leading to a driver failing to record any lap time (above), there is dispensation available according to the other competitors agreeing that such a driver/car combination is normally well within the requirements of the 107% rule. Therefore, if a team is normally competitive enough, this dispensation is very likely to be granted. - Indeed, this was occasionally done when the original 107% rule existed.
The long and short of it is that HRT are likely to be the only victims not getting dispensation, unless they have shown sufficiently competitive speed during Free Practice (which of course they did not on this occasion).
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As for Gregers question about mishap leading to a driver failing to record any lap time (above), there is dispensation available according to the other competitors agreeing that such a driver/car combination is normally well within the requirements of the 107% rule. Therefore, if a team is normally competitive enough, this dispensation is very likely to be granted. - Indeed, this was occasionally done when the original 107% rule existed.
The long and short of it is that HRT are likely to be the only victims not getting dispensation, unless they have shown sufficiently competitive speed during Free Practice (which of course they did not on this occasion).
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Re: The 107% Rule
by Gregers Tue 29 Mar 2011, 12:00 pm
Thankyou for clearing that up for me Cosicave 
Glad that dispensation is allowed, but for the driver to compete in the race do all the other teams/drivers have to agree that he normally would?
If not then could tactical voting (very unsportmanlike I know) take place?
Glad that dispensation is allowed, but for the driver to compete in the race do all the other teams/drivers have to agree that he normally would?If not then could tactical voting (very unsportmanlike I know) take place?
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Re: The 107% Rule
by cosicave Wed 30 Mar 2011, 1:55 pm
Gregers wrote:Thankyou for clearing that up for me Cosicave
If not then could tactical voting (very unsportmanlike I know) take place?
Yes. Thankfully such 'tactical voting' has never manifested in the history of the 107% rule, and for once, I feel confident that it will never happen.
Safety is genuinely the reason for the rule and it is a far more serious consideration for the front running teams. They have nothing to gain from being churlish about a driver/car combination which is normally fast enough. On the face of it then, such churlishness would only appear to be the domain of the weakest teams, who are far more vulnerable to such 'tactical' vetos themselves!
I cannot see this ever becoming a problem and is one of the best agreements in top level motor sport, very widely respected by all.
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