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Post by Tenez Fri Mar 02, 2012 10:44 am

First topic message reminder :

Murray v Djoko

Can anyone be sure of the winner?

I'll pick Murray to tease NITB!

Delpo V Federer

Pretty tough one to call. Can Federer again keep Delpo on his toes and force him into errors? The fast conds coudl work for both. I am not sure which way it's going to go.

Ok...Federer cause I like his game.

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Post by JuliusHMarx Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:31 pm

legendkillar wrote:If Andy loses this, I will make it my mission to impregnate Judy Murray so she can bear a player with mental fortitude!

That's very generous of you Smile

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Post by Jahu Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:31 pm

legendkillar wrote:If Andy loses this, I will make it my mission to impregnate Judy Murray so she can bear a player with mental fortitude!

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Post by Tenez Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:31 pm

Those courts are too small for those players! They can get to anything!

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Post by Jahu Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:32 pm

Andy Andy Andy
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Post by barrystar Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:32 pm

This is turning into a very handy test - a good one for either player to win.
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Post by Guest Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:34 pm

barrystar wrote:This is turning into a very handy test - a good one for either player to win.
No. Djokovic has done this too often. It is a far better test for Murray.

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Post by Jahu Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:34 pm

2 Match points for Andy
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Post by droogle Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:34 pm

Great stuff from Murray.

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Post by legendkillar Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:35 pm

JuliusHMarx wrote:
legendkillar wrote:If Andy loses this, I will make it my mission to impregnate Judy Murray so she can bear a player with mental fortitude!

That's very generous of you Smile

Call it national service Smile

The child will have a lethal BH slice and the mouth of a sewer.

Oh wait we already have a player like that....


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Post by Jahu Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:35 pm

Come onnnnnnnnnnnnnnn Andyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

Oh yessssssssssssssssssss 6:2 7:5

The demise of Djoko has started.
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Post by Guest Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:35 pm

Wow. Murray beats Djokovic convincingly and Djokovic is not carrying any injuries.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:35 pm

how's that for mental strength?! Yahoo Yahoo Yahoo

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Post by barrystar Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:36 pm

Oh excellent - well done
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Post by Jahu Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:36 pm

Andy is the GOAT......oh wait
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Post by Tenez Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:36 pm

legendkillar wrote:If Andy loses this, I will make it my mission to impregnate Judy Murray so she can bear a player with mental fortitude!

Ouch! That's a tough job!

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Post by legendkillar Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:36 pm

It makes my highlight watching later that more bearable later Very Happy

Well done Murray

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Post by break_in_the_fifth Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:36 pm

Fed will have to win another slam or two to be GOAT, for now Murray's title is safe.

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Post by Guest Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:36 pm

Let's see if Murray can keep it cool and get himself focussed for the final.

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Post by Jahu Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:36 pm

71% first serve, 85% of it won.
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Post by bogbrush Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:37 pm

legendkillar wrote:If Andy loses this, I will make it my mission to impregnate Judy Murray so she can bear a player with mental fortitude!
Thats what I call taking one for the team!

You must be mightily relieved.
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Post by Jahu Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:37 pm

Is going as I said it a few days ago, Fed-Andy Final, Fed in 3.
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Post by socal1976 Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:38 pm

Murray, served really well and credit to him great match. Novak was just off with the forehand today. Spraying way too many errors. Not a good performance, but credit to Murray fully deserved that win, the serve set everything up for him today. He didn't give novak many seconds to look at.

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Post by Tenez Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:39 pm

Murray's BH is pretty good but his FH Shocked ....again when under pressure!


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Post by legendkillar Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:39 pm

bogbrush wrote:
legendkillar wrote:If Andy loses this, I will make it my mission to impregnate Judy Murray so she can bear a player with mental fortitude!
Thats what I call taking one for the team!

You must be mightily relieved.

What Murray fan would've done the same Wink

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Post by socal1976 Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:40 pm

Jahu wrote:Come onnnnnnnnnnnnnnn Andyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

Oh yessssssssssssssssssss 6:2 7:5

The demise of Djoko has started.

LOL! or did it start when he won in Melbourne?

As I have said Andy murray best player to never win a slam, that will change as well he get that taste of slam victory. And for sure Novak and Andy will be the matchup to watch over the next 18 months in tennis.

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Post by noleisthebest Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:41 pm

Ideal time for Nole to lose a match. No streak to worry about.

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Post by socal1976 Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:42 pm

Legend unless you look like deliciano Lopez, she might not give you a go. Oh who are we kidding when you get to be Judy's age you usually are ready to go.

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Post by bogbrush Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:43 pm

Djokovic struggling on a court with serious speed. Rushed and made errors.

Not significant on the tours slow surface norm.
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Post by prostaff85 Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:43 pm

Didn't see the match but looks like Nole did some choking of his own!
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Post by sirfredperry Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:45 pm

Interestingly the two players won just 10 of the 32 second serves they had. There were moments when Andy played really well. Djoko looked a little flat but that's not to take anything away from Andy.
Nole fans can argue that this takes a little pressure of their man. Let's face it, he himself said he was never again gonna have the sort of run he had last year.

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Post by Guest Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:46 pm

noleisthebest wrote:Ideal time for Nole to lose a match. No streak to worry about.
Nole needs to focus on Roland Garros to make his own piece of history ... and achieve something neither Federer or Nadal have done - the modern day grand slam - holding the four titles at the same time.

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Post by noleisthebest Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:51 pm

Nore Staat wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:Ideal time for Nole to lose a match. No streak to worry about.
Nole needs to focus on Roland Garros to make his own piece of history ... and achieve something neither Federer or Nadal have done - the modern day grand slam - holding the four titles at the same time.


He is. Peaking for RG. I wish I could be there on THAT day Very Happy ....

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Post by noleisthebest Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:52 pm

bogbrush wrote:Djokovic struggling on a court with serious speed. Rushed and made errors.

Not significant on the tours slow surface norm.
rubbish, he won Dubai 3 times.

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Post by noleisthebest Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:53 pm

legendkillar wrote:
bogbrush wrote:
legendkillar wrote:If Andy loses this, I will make it my mission to impregnate Judy Murray so she can bear a player with mental fortitude!
Thats what I call taking one for the team!

You must be mightily relieved.

What Murray fan would've done the same Wink

LK, you are sick ! Laugh

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Post by bradman99.94 Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:53 pm

bogbrush wrote:
legendkillar wrote:If Andy loses this, I will make it my mission to impregnate Judy Murray so she can bear a player with mental fortitude!
Thats what I call taking one for the team!

Not especially, they don’t have to be in the same room at the same time Smile

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Post by hawkeye Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:55 pm

legendkillar

What are you talking about? What makes you think that Mrs. Murray would come within a hundred miles of you? And if she did are you sure you have any mental fortitude. Judging from your comments on this thread if you do your keeping it well hidden.

Did you notice me cheering for Murray? Unlike you I had belief...

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Post by socal1976 Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:55 pm

bogbrush wrote:Djokovic struggling on a court with serious speed. Rushed and made errors.

Not significant on the tours slow surface norm.

He won this tournament 3 years in a row it wasn't the speed of the surface that gave him problems. Murray served well and most importantly Novak was back to shank mode on the forehand, something that rarely happens to him in the last couple of years but today was a bad day for the Djokovic groundstroke game.

Hell is strokes were so ineffective that he played the entire second set like a serve and volleyer and almost pulled it back. Very interesting how much Novak volleyed in this tournament and he had some fair success with it as well.

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Post by barrystar Fri Mar 02, 2012 3:01 pm

Spring 2012 is looking a whole lot different to Spring 2010 and Spring 2011. Let's hope that this is the year that Andy breaks his duck.

What impressed me was his 1st serve statistic. Even so, there was a lot of pressure on his 1st serve given the relative weakeness of his 2nd serve (the same against Berdych).

That's the sort of thing that could prove difficult to protect over a best-of-five - encouraging work in progress.
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Post by Jahu Fri Mar 02, 2012 3:05 pm

Go Delpoooooo........send FED to final NOW!
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Post by Danny_1982 Fri Mar 02, 2012 3:07 pm

Not hugely significant for Djokovic. He was outplayed today but is still world number one and favourite for every slam this year in my opinion.

Massive win for Andy though. The way he played in those last 4 games of the first set was brilliant. Serve, forehand, aggression, playing on the baseline... Everything Murray's fans and critics have wanted him to do more of or do better he seems to have improved.

I was even pleased that having given it away in the second set, he showed the mental strength to come again. He needs a few more wins against Novak and Rafa before the slams in my opinion to convince him he can do it in the big ones. We saw how Novak managed to tun around the Rafa rivalry and therefore went on to beat him in the slams with the belief that those wins gave him.

Excellent stuff Andy, well done. This one I expect to be straightforward for Federer.

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Post by socal1976 Fri Mar 02, 2012 3:10 pm

Right Barrystar, Murray did really well limiting Novak's looks at second serves. I think getting a high percentage of first serves in is a big deal in any match, but when these two guys and their world class returns play each other the importance is magnified even more. Novak looked terrible off the forehand today and Murray was hungrier as well.

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Post by Guest Fri Mar 02, 2012 3:12 pm

Looks like Djoko needs some time off to reinvigorate himself. Weariness is written all over his body language. But Murray's is all there. He's worked hard and well deserves this win.

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Post by slashermcguirk Fri Mar 02, 2012 3:15 pm

I don't think djokovic will be too concerned, this is a tournament he won 3 times in a row. He is consistently beating the other top 3 in slams which are what matter now. Slams at what you are remembered for. Of course he would have liked to win but would rather he just peaked for French open

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Post by Josiah Maiestas Fri Mar 02, 2012 3:24 pm

it was probably the worst opening set and a half Novak has played since 2010. Today we mark the birth of Murray as a certified Brit...he shall no longer be known as that losing Scot.
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Post by barrystar Fri Mar 02, 2012 3:25 pm

It was always a more important match for Murray than it was for Djokovic.

It would have been discouraging for Murray to lose under any circumstances, and positively disastrous to lose from 5-2 up in the second set. As it is he can feel that he's making progress on almost every front and he and Lendl will no doubt be gaining confidence in their project.

Murray will obviously want to win the final, but this is probably a more significant match in the context of months to come.
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Post by bradman99.94 Fri Mar 02, 2012 3:25 pm

This win was significantly more important for Murray than the loss was for Djoko. Had Murray have taken the time off after the Aus Open to get himself in to good condition (which he clearly has) and then still lost this game it could have had an impact on the rest of the season for him; I think it would have been very difficult to come back from another loss. Or would he have reasoned it to himself that he’s lost twice on the bounce to the best current player on the tour, shrug his shoulders and carry on?

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Post by barrystar Fri Mar 02, 2012 3:33 pm

Compare Murray's win with the recent experience of Nadal - wouldn't Nadal have loved to have won this match?

I wonder if it would have been more important to Djoko had Nadal been his opponent - any thoughts?
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Post by bogbrush Fri Mar 02, 2012 3:36 pm

Beautiful concussive hitting from JMDP & Fed.
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Post by Tenez Fri Mar 02, 2012 3:38 pm

Fed is more at ease with Delpo's first serve than the second one.

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Post by Jahu Fri Mar 02, 2012 3:39 pm

A bit of a relaxed play so far.
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