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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue 06 Mar 2012, 10:48 am

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun 18 Mar 2012, 11:27 pm

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Post by dammit_chris Sun 18 Mar 2012, 11:31 pm

sh it - that's him banned for 12 weeks I think.

what an idiot.

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Post by Driver Sun 18 Mar 2012, 11:33 pm

I'd ban him for a lot longer than that - it's outside the laws of the game so I believe Hawkins has a right to sue him for GBH?
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Post by dammit_chris Sun 18 Mar 2012, 11:35 pm

I can't recall another time when a player has done that sort of thing before - the first angle looks like they just tangle their arms, but second time you watch it...can't believe he'd do it tbh.


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 18 Mar 2012, 11:37 pm

I can't see much, maybe it's my eyes.

Clarke used to be a real thug, thought he'd cleaned up his act lately.

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Post by Driver Sun 18 Mar 2012, 11:42 pm

Typical Darlo thug hey pooly ;-)

He got banned at U16 for trying to break some ones ribs by grabbing the rib bone when in the ruck
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Post by dammit_chris Sun 18 Mar 2012, 11:43 pm

think he had a bit of an unfair reputation after the JWC where he was sent off for a headbutt - hasnt really done anything since then, until just then.

it will be interesting to hear what Cockerill says, he's usually pretty outspoken - different angle might show something different.

im concerned about this whole biting incident that was meant to have happened in the england game - have a feeling it might be another one of my players involved!

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Post by Driver Sun 18 Mar 2012, 11:49 pm

What are you doing to them Chris!
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 18 Mar 2012, 11:49 pm

What have you been teaching them Chris????

Ashton - hair pulling
Lawes - tackles with knees
Hartley - eats Ferris's fingers
Clarke - tries to put Hawkins arm all the way around his body

If love to attend one of your training sessions! Lol

Just seen it again on highlights, he does purposely bend his arm back without doubt.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon 19 Mar 2012, 9:48 am

I'm not convinced there is much in the Hartley one. From what I could see Ferris has his arm around Hartley's neck and possibly puts his finger in Hartley's mouth. If Hartley thinks he's about to be fish-hooked which is also illegal then for me he is entitled to bit the finger to get it out of his mouth.

If he had gone unprovoked and bitten then that's another thing, but in this instance I don't see the problem. If you don't want to get bitten, don't stick your fingers in someones mouth.
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Post by stnick88 Mon 19 Mar 2012, 10:24 am

you going Tigers game Sunday pete?

First time all season we have had a full squad training, apart from Corbs.

Dad said since Smith has arrived training has looked better and more full on, boys fired up! probably still lose though!!

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Post by dammit_chris Mon 19 Mar 2012, 10:27 am

Have to admit I didnt see much in the Hartley incident and the Irish havent come out saying anything about it, so hopefully it was nothing.

I think Clark could be in a whole lot of trouble though - waiting for Cockerill to kick off about it now - I kind of hope it was accidental and not malicious e.g. he was trying to rip the ball away.

If it was malicious then a case of GBH has to be brought against him as quite frankly a ban of any length isnt enough for that sort of thing.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon 19 Mar 2012, 10:31 am

stnick88 wrote:you going Tigers game Sunday pete?

First time all season we have had a full squad training, apart from Corbs.

Dad said since Smith has arrived training has looked better and more full on, boys fired up! probably still lose though!!

I'm there mate, with some mates from work. I thought Bryn Evans is injured, fractured eye socket or something?

If we get the team selection right this week we can win, I would go.

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Post by stnick88 Mon 19 Mar 2012, 10:44 am

Yeh you might be right. obviously no Hoff too.

Think he will start Hape, although I would go Shingler.

Allinson better start over Samson! Would have Dodge on the bench too.

Are we allowed to play Corbs? Wonder whether Tigers will throw Manu, Croft, Cole etc back in?

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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon 19 Mar 2012, 11:03 am

Not sure if there is any restriction now on Corbs playing time, but really we need to start him with Max on the bench.

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Post by dammit_chris Mon 19 Mar 2012, 11:56 am

Reckon a lot of the English players could end up in the match day 23 - they must be buzzing after the last few weeks - Tigers usually play them straight away.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon 19 Mar 2012, 12:05 pm

It's like anything, when you are winning and enjoying the game you don't feel tired and want to play every week. If you are off the back of a few bad results I am sure the bumps and bruises feel a lot more sore.
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Post by dammit_chris Mon 19 Mar 2012, 12:34 pm

I think you injured all my English Pete! So may not have any choice but to play Phillips and Halfpenny! Think I might have to give lydiate a rest mind - tackle machine this weekend!

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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon 19 Mar 2012, 12:46 pm

Backs not so bad, but forwards a risk I think. Injured 4 of my own English as well, including Corbisiero. Looking forward to getting him back.

be interesting to see if him and Cole line up opposite each other this Sunday.
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Post by stnick88 Mon 19 Mar 2012, 1:03 pm

Think I will play Castro this week. his game v Scotland was his first for a while so fatigue not an issue really.

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Mon 19 Mar 2012, 1:13 pm

Too soon for me for the likes of Cole, Croft and Pape. They have played every game so need at least a week off. Same for Jenkins although he didn't play every game.

Castro looked knackered Saturday Nick.

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Post by dammit_chris Mon 19 Mar 2012, 1:28 pm

Luke I think Castro always looks knackered!

What do people think of Mulipola? Is he any good at scrummaging?

Dont think any of my forwards who were involved in thee 6Nations will make the bench this week.

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Mon 19 Mar 2012, 1:36 pm

Anyone seen LV Cup final highlights?

Apparently Mafi and 36 were outstanding. Suprised Tigers won - Saints had a really strong side out.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 19 Mar 2012, 2:11 pm

I'm after English in the following positions:

LH, HK, 4, OC, WG, FB

Willing to lose top draw players (Both English & foreign) for the right players thumbsup

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Post by stnick88 Mon 19 Mar 2012, 2:16 pm

Saints side was strong but Tigers was too. Mafi, Salvi, Waldrom got the better of Clark, Wood and Wilson.
12T had a good game as did Ford.

Stankovich got battered by PDJ in opening 15, Ayerza came on and battered PDJ!

Was Castro's first game in a month or so, so he was bound to be knackered! would of got him nice and match fit to face you this week Luke!

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Mon 19 Mar 2012, 2:20 pm

Wink

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 19 Mar 2012, 2:46 pm

Planet Rugby team of round 5:

Team of Round Five: 15 Leigh Halfpenny (Wales), 14 Alex Cuthbert (Wales), 13 Keith Earls (Ireland), 12 Gonzalo Canale (Italy), 11 Giovanbattista Venditti (Italy), 10 Owen Farrell (England), 9 Ben Youngs (England), 8 Ben Morgan (England), 7 Chris Robshaw (England), 6 Dan Lydiate (Wales), 5 Ian Evans (Wales), 4 Quintin Geldenhuys (Italy), 3 Martin Castrogiovanni (Italy), 2 Dylan Hartley (England), 1 Alex Corbisiero (England).

Team of 6N:

1. Jenkins
2. Best
3. A Jones
4. R. Gray
5. Evans
6. Lydiate
7. Robshaw
8. Parisse

9. Phillips
10. Farrell
11. North
12. Fofana
13. Davies
14. Cuthbert
15. Kearney

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 19 Mar 2012, 2:52 pm

My team of the tournament would be

1. Gethin Jenkins
2. Rory Best
3. Dan Cole
4. Pascal Pape
5. Richie Gray
6. Thierry Dusatoir
7. Ross Rennie
8. Sergio Parisse
9. Lee Dickson
10. Jonny Sexton (Although he was generally very mediocre)
11. George North
12. Wesley Fofana
13. Jonathan Davies
14. Tommy Bowe
15. Rob Kearney

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 19 Mar 2012, 3:00 pm

I'd throw Maestri in the mix at lock, had a great first 3 games although faded a little the last two. Cuthbert is a surprise call.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 19 Mar 2012, 3:01 pm

Maestri wasn't playing better than Pape, Gray or Evans.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 19 Mar 2012, 3:04 pm

I thought he was excellent the first 3 games

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 19 Mar 2012, 3:11 pm

Beattie retires:

http://www.premiershiprugby.com/premiership/news/30117.php

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 19 Mar 2012, 3:23 pm

Andy Beatie that is. Very handy player

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Mon 19 Mar 2012, 3:26 pm

Steven_Sharks wrote:My team of the tournament would be

1. Gethin Jenkins
2. Rory Best
3. Dan Cole
4. Pascal Pape
5. Richie Gray
6. Thierry Dusatoir
7. Ross Rennie
8. Sergio Parisse
9. Lee Dickson
10. Jonny Sexton (Although he was generally very mediocre)
11. George North
12. Wesley Fofana
13. Jonathan Davies
14. Tommy Bowe
15. Rob Kearney


Not far off what i'd go for Steve. 9 and 10 is a tough call. No-one really shone for me.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 19 Mar 2012, 3:27 pm

It was a very tough call there. Dickson I have an obvious bias for and I couldn't justify giving it to Farrell.

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Post by stnick88 Mon 19 Mar 2012, 3:29 pm

for me Halfpenny over Kearney

Wouldnt have Dickson in there. phillips probably.

lydiate over dusatoir definitely.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 19 Mar 2012, 3:35 pm

Kearney was brilliant every game. Halfpenny was good but not in Kearney's class throughout the 5 games.


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Post by dammit_chris Mon 19 Mar 2012, 3:49 pm

I'd have Halfpenny - Kearney was best f/b but with Halfpenny you have to consider his goal kicking and his try saving tackle on Strettle in the England game (not looking at the fact Strettle scored it...)

We must have been one of the only teams whose wingers didnt score a try during the 6Nations!


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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 19 Mar 2012, 5:00 pm

Had a quiet afternoon and have been trying to put together some sort of Lions squad for next year. Its a real tough job. As we stand I am leaving out the likes of Faletau, Bradley Davies and one of either Wood or Croft doesn't make it. It is a really tough call at the moment.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 19 Mar 2012, 5:12 pm

We seem to have a serious glut of 8's at the minute:

Faletau, Heaslip, Denton, Morgan would all be in with a fair shout.

I'd be tempted with Morgan & Denton on current form although SOB is a very good 8. Faletau gives options at 6/7 also so could be in with shot.

Heaslip is probably 5th in my list of Lions 8's which is crazy when you think he was the standout in 2009. Big calls from Ireland to go with a backrow of:

6. Ferris/SOB
7. POM
8. SOB/Ferris

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 19 Mar 2012, 5:18 pm

I won't get into an argument about Heaslip. He is still the number one 8 in the British Isles for me.

Only really 5 certainties for the starting line up in my eyes. (Fitness permitting)

Jenkins, Gray, Warburton, Davies (at either 12 or 13) and North.

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Post by Driver Mon 19 Mar 2012, 5:31 pm

7 is a pretty intense battle with Warburton , O'Mahoney , O'Brian , Jennings , Robshaw , Wood and Rennie all looking to steak a claim.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 19 Mar 2012, 5:35 pm

Only Rennie could get close to Warburton's level as an openside for me over the next 12 months.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 19 Mar 2012, 5:41 pm

I think Warburton is out on his own in terms of OS despite not fully firing this 6N due to injuries etc he's likely captain.

Heaslip I can't agree with, hasnt hit form for a while. I doubt very much he'd be part of a Lions setup unless he seriously bucks his ideas up. Was pretty terrible for most of this 6N. Denton could be an outside shot but a little early to tell.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 19 Mar 2012, 5:45 pm

Heaslip has been great in the HC for Leinster. One of there key players.

He hasn't played well for Ireland along with most of their side. Ireland have had Kearney, Bowe, Ryan, Best playing well along with Murray and POC before they got injured.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 19 Mar 2012, 5:48 pm

I don't think he's been particulary great for Leinster either Steve tbh, the odd game (Glasgow or Edinburgh) he played well but he performances have really slipped over the last couple of years.

Big fan of Heaslip too. Kearney has been quality

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Post by dammit_chris Mon 19 Mar 2012, 7:17 pm

crap

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/17440125

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Post by CJB Mon 19 Mar 2012, 7:26 pm

Steven_Sharks wrote:I won't get into an argument about Heaslip. He is still the number one 8 in the British Isles for me.

Only really 5 certainties for the starting line up in my eyes. (Fitness permitting)

Jenkins, Gray, Warburton, Davies (at either 12 or 13) and North.

Jenkins ahead of Corbs + Healy is a tough call and definitely not a certainty. Also with JD I'd be happy with a midfield of Roberts - Manu.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 19 Mar 2012, 7:30 pm

Little surprised with that Chris.

The Welsh/Irish will love that, most of them hate Hartley's guts. Love to see him in the Lions.

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Post by dammit_chris Mon 19 Mar 2012, 7:49 pm

From what I saw of the incident it didnt look like anything - maybe they have another camera angle, just seems that the English get a really hard time from the citing officials.

Hope he hasnt done it - he'd changed his game around over the last three years - if he had more of a carrying game he'd be best hooker in Europe (sure he used to run the ball a whole lot more?)

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