Andy Robinson, Director of Rugby?
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Andy Robinson, Director of Rugby?
From this mornings Hootsman :
AR as a director of rugby? The SRU looks like it is becomeing even more of a laughing stock than the days McKie the skinflint was in charge. Promoting the incompetant just so they can't do any damage in their current position.
Why don't they just punt this cretin and deal with the fallout later?
If the SRU want fans to still support Scotland and Scottish rugby Scotland need to start performing in the games that matter.
Rugby: Andy Robinson is tipped for move upstairs By BILL LOTHIAN
Published on Tuesday 20 March 2012 12:00
THE SRU was today urged to install Scotland coach Andy Robinson as Murrayfield’s ‘director of rugby’.
Pressure is building on Robinson following seven straight international defeats and failure to progress from the World Cup group stages for the first time.
While admitting turmoil is now inevitable in Scottish rugby, Heriot’s player Alan Dymock, a member of Scotland’s club international side, insists ways exist to minimise fall-out and keep the game on a more even keel.
Writing on the Scottish Rugby Blog, Dymock said: “If Robinson walks, there will be turmoil. Scott Johnson (hired as of this summer as attack coach) could walk, too. Other people could have to answer questions about the long-term vision for Scotland, not to mention cough up a lot of money in pay-offs. Conversely, if he (Robinson) stays, he or the SRU could lose credibility. But Robinson could take a step upstairs in the coming weeks to a director of rugby position.”
Making it clear that this would only be a way out of any impasse where Robinson has lost public confidence after the worst run of results since 1988 while honouring the coach’s current contract, Dymock says: “If no one is going to say that Scotland must accept that our players make up a second tier team in international terms – something even the most depressed of thistle wearers are wary of stating – then Robinson must shoulder the cross.
“But there could be ways of escaping it. The coaches under him are leaving and there is a spate of new players. The baying crowd are told of progress in attempts to quell their blood lust. Political moves like shifting Sean Lineen can momentarily turn the crowd’s heads. Robinson could take a step upstairs in the coming weeks, to a Director of Rugby position (putting a title to a role he already holds).”
And Dymock maintains: “After Saturday’s limp performance in Rome I spoke to a professional rugby player. He said that from what he had heard ‘The SRU is now like the United States of Andy Robinson’.”
Part of the Scottish Rugby Blog states: “Alan hopes to give an insight into Scottish Premier Club rugby and the broader game” – and the latest instalment is certainly incisive in addressing difficulties.
Dymock, who was included in Glasgow’s squad for a RaboDirect Pro 12 match with Scarlets this season without progressing to the match-day line-up, said: “Andy Robinson’s record now stands out like tap shoes in an abbey. He has led his team to failure in all of this year’s Six Nations games and understandably is considering his position. The problem is, however, that Scotland’s head coach has a position unlike most other coaches in international rugby.
“Robinson has a fireguard of a contract and has surrounded himself with people that can solidify his position. Pro coaches have been shifted around without positions even being advertised, and he certainly had a hand in that. When he first arrived everyone intoned that Scotland had poached themselves a real star coach.
“If his (Robinson’s) pride swells and he gets a-swallowing he could walk. There is only so much embarrassment a competitive man can take. (But) What if he walks? Well, with young promising individuals like Gray, Denton, Scott, Hogg, Weir, Welsh, Jones and Visser, Scotland could very well compete in the future, but before such a time there would be political issues.
“In a move to further insulate Robinson’s position, there have been the signings of new Australian coaches. If Robinson jumps, what will happen with Scott Johnson and Matt Taylor?”
AR as a director of rugby? The SRU looks like it is becomeing even more of a laughing stock than the days McKie the skinflint was in charge. Promoting the incompetant just so they can't do any damage in their current position.
Why don't they just punt this cretin and deal with the fallout later?
If the SRU want fans to still support Scotland and Scottish rugby Scotland need to start performing in the games that matter.
RuggerRadge2611- Posts : 7194
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Re: Andy Robinson, Director of Rugby?
Smoke & mirrors
too chicken to sack him, but know they need to appease the poor supporters.
SCW was DoR for England & still ran the show.
too chicken to sack him, but know they need to appease the poor supporters.
SCW was DoR for England & still ran the show.
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Re: Andy Robinson, Director of Rugby?
I may be the only one but i think that AR would make a good DoR. He is a very clever man and knows his stuff. He just cant coach a national team very well.
eirebilly- Posts : 24807
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I'd give him 1 more season - I really believe Scotland are almost there and they have suffered with significant injuries this year - Tim Visser, Kelly Brown and a few others would be enough to turn the L's into W's IMO -
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I'm afraid that this smacks of an awkward compromise, and in my experience, they rarely work
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Ruby, having Visser on the wing will achieve nothing as long as we have big lumbering monstrosities like Lamont and Morrison at 12 or Barclay at 6!
It's al about selection and AR has proven incapable of picking the best players
It's al about selection and AR has proven incapable of picking the best players
RuggerRadge2611- Posts : 7194
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Don't panic.... it will be better when Scott Johnson is fully in situ.....
..... what am I saying.....
PANIC................
..... what am I saying.....
PANIC................
MajorRoadWorks- Posts : 122
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Re: Andy Robinson, Director of Rugby?
Things have actually gone down hill since he came on board (bit like the Ospreys) - the guys a meglomaniac - Just can't see his swagger and AR getting on - Oil and water for me
RubyGuby- Posts : 7404
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I have always considered him a better buisness man than a coach anyways so this really could be a good thing.
eirebilly- Posts : 24807
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Better buisness man.... SJ ?
Dont think many Osprey fans will agree (I know I dont... and I am an Osprey fan by the way).
Dont think many Osprey fans will agree (I know I dont... and I am an Osprey fan by the way).
MajorRoadWorks- Posts : 122
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Re: Andy Robinson, Director of Rugby?
Not a good idea. He is not a man who would be able to sit in an office and resist the urge to intrude on the training ground, and with his record it would be very difficult for him to objectively judge the new head coach (who he'd effectively be in charge of firing cometh the day).
It doesn't make sense to me. He should either stay, walk or be fired. Those are the three options.
It doesn't make sense to me. He should either stay, walk or be fired. Those are the three options.
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Re: Andy Robinson, Director of Rugby?
funnyExiledScot wrote:Not a good idea. He is not a man who would be able to sit in an office and resist the urge to intrude on the training ground, and with his record it would be very difficult for him to objectively judge the new head coach (who he'd effectively be in charge of firing cometh the day).
It doesn't make sense to me. He should either stay, walk or be fired. Those are the three options.
You know, i didnt think about that. Thats a very good point.
eirebilly- Posts : 24807
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If he was DoR, would he still be in charge of us or would someone else br brought in as Head Coach because if it is the latter, i would be in favour of this but as someone told me yesterday, if he was to be offered a Director of Rugby position, he would reject and resign or in his words "Robinson would say bye, bye"?
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