Stop selling Tyson short !!

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Look...Foreman and liston don't walk through Tyson and Ali doesn't have an easy night with him okay!!!! Come on I'm no Tyson fan but enough is enough!!!

Foreman/Liston - Tyson had faster hands....had greater head movement...better footwork and when he landed guys with great/good chins went down......I think he beats Liston but let's face it Foreman doesn't just turn up push him back and destroy him....he goes through HELL!!!!

Tyson isn't a Frazier..please have more respect.

Ali - If Frazier can give Ali a lot of problems..i'm sure a much bigger, quicker fighter with better handspeed than Joe and better head work could give him problems....Tyson was lightning fast..A rooney led Tyson would be a great matchup!!!

Sure I'd pick Ali but "He'd be beaten before he hit the ring" - Azania... or "liston and foreman walk right through him" - Chris..

Please just leave it out....

Much is made of Tyson's mental strength but apart from Buster who hit the deck and beat a sub par Tyson....no one else had it "easy" in his prime!!!!

Tired of the same old Tyson clap trap...

Learn some respect!!!!!! Sick of hearing about all his negative attributes and none of his positive ones...

Sorry, Tyson was a great champ, and was a challenge to anyone..

But I still think he was a tad bit over rated.

His style was effective but not as dynamic as some other greats.. He had power and speed, but most of all no fear and he put fear into other fighters, but he was not quite as good a boxer as some of the other greats...

he was a pit bull, but had weaknesses, once some of them were discovered people just said he was not the fighter he once was... once people started hitting him back, then his fights went on for longer ... .. and so on...

Great fighter, but not the best of a bunch.

but not as dynamic as some other greats..........

Wouldn't want you to volunteer any names or anything like that!!!

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:but not as dynamic as some other greats..........

Wouldn't want you to volunteer any names or anything like that!!!

Lewis, Hollyfield.. a couple.. and if he went up against Ali I think ali would have had his number..

We can say he was shot in those fights, but against Lewis for example, Lewis was also not at his best, and even if Tyson had been a couple pegs up I dont see why Lewis would not have weathered the storm and continued to pick Tyson off..

When Tyson over whelmed his opponents he beat them and he hardly got hit... once people started to stand up to him and hit him back (with intent) then he did not look so unstoppable.

Like I say I still rate him as a Great champ, but not as good as many make out.

Lewis and Holyfield were more dynamic than Tyson!!!!!!

Do me a favor......

Thought you were going to say Louis or Cassius, Dempsey or something..

You ever see Lewis and Holy fight???

Holyfield was definitely more dynamic than Tyson.

As long as you consider the triple jab, blistering, on his toes Holyfield that first took the title against Moorer - against the Tyson that ate jabs all night against Lewis.

Course - if you actually consider prime Tyson - and that astonishing blend of power, head movement, strength - and sheer unfettered aggression - that comment becomes a little less accurate.

Peak for peak - Tyson was as dynamic as anyone. Maybe Dempsey could give him an argument, maybe the Cleveland Williams version of Ali. Even THEN there's not much in it.

Agreed good summation..