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AP Round 19

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Mon Mar 26, 2012 2:21 pm

Team Sheets and tactics due by COB Thur
Predictions open Fri. Results due Sun/Mon



Newcastle Falcons v Sale Sharks
Sunny Intervals, 14 Degrees, 7mph Winds


Newcastle Falcons
Manager – Sgt Pooly

01. Fabien Barcella09. Ben Youngs
02. William Servat10. Toby Flood
03. Owen Franks
04. Brad Thorn11. Miles Benjamin
05. Geoff Parling12. James O’Connor
06. Toby Faletau13. Jaques Fourie
07. Chris Robshaw14. Tommy Bowe
08. Kieran Read(c)15. Ben Smith

16.Tom Lindsay 17. Paul Doran-Jones 18. Alex Waller 19. Paul O’Connell 20.Juan Smith 21. Jonny Arr 22.Nick Evans 23. Ben Williams

Tactics

General – High intensity, bully the opposition front 5 and look to unleash backline with pace & power. Keep hold of the ball and go through the phases with huge carrying options. Look to keep ball in hand and starve opposition.

Scrum – look to target opposition and get nudge on if weakness seen. Keep ball in and look for drive to get pen.

Lineout – quick ball off the top using Parling as primary caller, also look to use Read at the tail and McCaw, Thorn to offer front ball. Target opposition ball and contest outside of 22 especially.

Breakdown – Look to ruck past the ball and gain upperhand with strong front 5. Look to control and dominate contact area.

Defence – Look to use the Blitz and get in the face of Cruden early on and force him off his game.

Backline – Look to play the fringes with Youngs sniping around .Flood to play flat and swap first receiver with JOC. Look to tuse Fourie to get over gainline and also as decoy with Bowe coming in at angles. Look to get JOC in space whenever possible.

Points:

Home form – we are unbeaten at home in over 18mnths and in great form
Momentum – Strong wins recently and back to the top of the table
Fresh pack – rested players come in to give us added energy



Sale Sharks
Manager – SJE

01. Jerome Schuster 09. Danny Care
02. David Paice 10. Aaron Cruden
03. Luc Ducalcon
04. Brodie Retallick 11. Luke Rooney
05. Stephen Sykes 12. Jordan Turner Hall
06. Victor Vito 13. James Hook
07. Peter O'Mahony 14. Lelia Masaga
08. Wycliffe Palu 15. Nick Abendanon

16. Nathan Catt 17. Agustin Creevy 18. Neemia Tialata 19. Alun Wyn Jones 20. Michael Lipman 21. Ben Spencer 22. Olly Barkley 23. Sam Smith







Exeter Chiefs v London Irish
Sunny, 17 Degrees, 7mph Winds


Exeter Chiefs

Manager – Driver

01.Alisdair Dickinson09.Haydn Thomas
02.Lee Mears10.Nick Mcleod(k)
03.Ben Alexander
04.Flip Van Der Merwe11.Luke Fitzgerald
05.James Hudson (c)12.Damian Traille
06.Declan Danahar13.George Pisi
07.Juilian Salvi14.Matt Smith
08.Johnnie Beattie15.Andrea Masi

16.Neil Clark 17.Brett Sturgess 18.Werner Kruger 19.Juilian Pierre 20.Shane Jennings 21.Rob Coote 22.Henry Slade 23.Adam Thompstone


With weather set for running rugby Exeter are out to put on a show for there home support and target the win against London Irish.

We’ve picked a team based around running the ball and it starts with Dickinson and Alexander at the scrum two props who relish the loose play and this will allow us to play at a high tempo and let it flow through the team and really take the game to Irish.

Just because we’re playing a high tempo doesn’t mean we won’t utilise the boots of McLeod and Traille at 10 and 12 with both threading kicks through and kicking behind the Irish wings to gain vital yards in the Irish half.

Luke Fitzgerald will look to pop up from his wing in the first receiver channel and look to use his pace to get away from Hernandez and really attack the line with Thomas tying in the back row by sniping prior to the pass to make him the centre of attention.


Key points of game plan

Retain the ball in the opposition half and look to play a bit and get the crowd going.

Thomas and Mcleod are great thinkers on the pitch and will control the tempo and playing the game the right ways at the right times.

Leave the Irish 22 with points everytime



London Irish
Manager – stnick88

01. Soane Tonga'uhia 09. Ruan Pienaar
02. Andrew Hore 10. Juan Martin Hernandez
03. WP Nel
04. Matt Garvey 11. Paul Sackey
05. Nick Kennedy 12. Sonny Bill Williams
06. Keegan Daniel 13. Conrad Smith
07. Steffon Armitage 14. Sailosi Tagicakibau
08. Pierre Spies 15. Delon Armitage

16. Rodrigo Roncero 17. James Buckland 18. Duncan Bell 19. Stuart Hooper 20. Hendrie Fourie 21. Julien Dupuy 22. Luke McAllister 23. Marland Yarde

London Irish make 4 changes from the impressive win over Leicester Tigers last week. 3 of those come in the front row, with Soane Tonga'uhia, Andrew Hore and WP Nel replacing Roncero, Buckland and Castrogiovanni. The other change sees Paul Sackey replace Bjorn Basson.

'We've freshened up the front row after last weeks tough encounter against the Tigers, and this week have more mobility with Soane, Andrew Hore and WP. Castro has earnt his rest after last weeks performance and we want him fresh for next weeks visit of Saracens. Sandy Park is a tough place to go and Exeter are scrapping for everything. We will have to be on our game and not give away silly penalties or McLeod will punish us. We're looking to make it 4 league wins in a row and are making a big push towards the play off's. That is our goal and we set ourselves a minimum target of reaching the playoff's. We need to win all our remaining games and it starts here at Sandy Park.'

Tactics

- In good conditions, play an attacking, running game, similar to the recent victories over Saints, away at Wasps and against Tigers last week. We will run back loose kicks and not look to give away possession. We want to keep the ball in hand, run at the Chiefs, tire their defence and look for mismatches.
- We use the scrum as a an attacking platform, with two good scrummaging props we will look to turn the screw and win penalties or use Spies to pick up and carry or Pienaar to get the ball out to the backs. Nel has been picked this week for his loose play. He is a strong carrier and hits rucks hard and tackles a lot. This will help us in an expansive game.
- We will look to win the contact area and the collisions. With Nel, Garvey, Spies, Steffon, SBW in the side, we have some big, powerful units who will look to smash over the gain line and put Exeter on the backfoot. We will look for quick ball for Pienaar to use and create opportunities with.
- Kennedy will be our main lineout target and we willl look for quick ball off the top on most occasions, if not use Garvey at the front to create a maul.
- We willl look to dominate possession and tire the Chiefs defence. Spies, Daniel, Armitage, Garvey will carry hard and look to make inroads. We will look for Pienaar and JMH to play what is infront of them and put SBW and co into gaps and space. Our wingers, especially Tagicakibau, will come inside and along with Smith, look to gather the offloads from SBW, which he will only do when it is on.
- At the breakdown, we will look to use our powerful flankers and the breakdown skills of Steffon to secure quick ball and slow down opposition ball. Any turnover ball will be counter attacked.
- Pienaar will kick all pens for goal in range. If not we will go for touch and use the lineout as a platform to attack.
- If any attacks become slow and we are in danger of being turned of making a mistake, we will look for JMH to pop over a drop goal to keep the scoreboard ticking over.
- We have plenty of impact off the bench to keep things fresh and hopefully see out the game.
- We have won 3 league games in a row, morale and confidence is high and we will look to continue our good form in our battle for the playoffs.







Leicester Tigers v Worcester Warriors
Sunny Intervals, 15 Degrees, 8mph Winds


Leicester Tigers
Manager – LukeLovesLuka

01. Gethin Jenkins09. Dimitri Yachvili (k)
02. Sebastian Bruno10. Brock James
03. Dan Cole
04. Pascal Pape11. Isa Nacewa
05. James Horwill (c) 12. Billy Twelvetrees
06. Tom Croft13. Brian O'Driscoll
07. Jonathan Poff14. Cory Jane
08. Thomas Waldrom15. Rob Miller
16. Andrew Sheridan 17. Tom Youngs 18. Ben Franks 19. Simon Shaw 20. Samu Manoa 21. Chris Cusiter 22. Dave Walder 23. Topsy Ojo

Tactics

We will play a game built around running rugby with an attacking back line, and the strength in our set piece.

- Attack the scrum as a weapon - and call when we can. Scrum specialist Bruno selected alongside two in-form props to look to really get the shove on against Mayhew and Bugden.

- Strong lineout with Croft, Pape and Horwill as our main jumpers rotating the target. We will relentlessly target Mayhew's throws.

- Massive line-breakers right throughout the side that will look to tire down Worcester's defence.
The likes of Waldrom and Horwill used off the shoulder crashing through the Worcester defence.

- Poff is the man charged with reaching the breakdown first and look to turnover possession. We will always look to attack quickly off turnover ball.

- In general attacking play, we will play off 9 with Yachvili our general pulling the strings.

- Look to play attacking running rugby in the backs, getting the our 11-15 on the ball as much as possible. Croft to look to get into space and join our backs to cause trouble out wide.

- Box kicks from Yachili and up and unders from James to give Garvey and Morgan problems in the air.
Lightning back three to really get the chase on.

- Our back three are encouraged to do what they do best - counter attacking and running the ball back. Selected 3 players versed in playing full back, as we expect Steyn to kick all day and will be ready to counter his kicks.

- Yachvili to kick penalites. We won't always go for the points if in good position and lineout working well.

- Use our powerful bench to see the game out in the last 20 minutes.



Worcester Warriors
Manager - Prop

01.Sylvain Marconnet09.Dwayne Peel
02.Michael Mayhew10.Morne Steyn (k)
03.Chris Budgen
04.Jim Hamilton11.Bryan Habana
05.Dom Barrow12.Pat McCabe
06.Ryan Jones13.Jon Clarke
07.Craig Newby (c)14.Marcel Garvey
08.Ben Morgan15.Ollie Morgan

16.Chris Fortey 17.David Flatman 18.BJ Botha 19.Kearnen Myall 20.Mamuka Gorgodze 21.Byron Kelleher 22.Tom Heathcote 23.Shane Williams

Tactics
Forwards: We have picked a pack and big engine room who won't go backwards. Both will look to get the edge on his side and with Hamilton behind him this should be fairly easy to do. Strauss will look to go for each ball and catch them off guard. We will look to get the edge on the hit and put them under pressure instantly with a pack used to playing with each other. Our back rown can match them at the breakdown and Morgan will always make yards when he picks or carries. Jones and Newby will lead from the front at the tackle area looking for turnovers and to put a lot of pressure on the breakdown. Lineouts will be kept simple and we will put two up to compete. Our bench has impact forwards with Botha, Myall and Gorgodze all able to change a match. We know Budgen can't last 80minutes so; if he's on top at half time we will look to push him out for 50mins!

Backs: Quick ball to Steyn where Peel will provide this he will also look to snipe off 3rd or 4th phase. Steyn will play what's ahead of him, he will look to pin them back in their own half and we will look to release our dangerous backline when the ball is quick. Any slow ball will go to forwards or off the park. McCabe will lead from the front and look to offload to runners. We will bring Habana and Garvey into the match as often as possible to work around tired forwards. Steyn will take 3 points when possible to keep the scores close. We again have game changing subs who will all make an impact and will be used to help close out a match. Our backrow will look to be stood between 10-13 and take the ball up any channel with space.

Defence: Look to have 2 men on 10 stopping the ball being shipped out. We will adopt a blitz drift defence looking to close off any gaps which may appear. Peel will look to sweep and snipe and our backrow will look to be 2nd to the breakdown to force the turnover.







Saracens v Harlequins
Sunny, 15 Degrees, 8mph Winds


Saracens
Manager – Ozzy3213

01. Max Lahiff09. Morgan Parra
02. Bismarck du Plessis10. Francois Trinh-Duc
03. Adam Jones
04. Dave Attwood11. Tim Visser
05. Lionel Nallet12. Ma'a Nonu
06. Thierry Dusautoir13. Jonathon Davies
07. Tom Wood14. James Short
08. Joe van Niekerk (c)15. Alex Goode

16. George Chuter 17. Tendai Mtwarira 18. Jannie du Plessis 19. Graham Kitchener 20. Tom Johnson 21. Paul Hodgson 22. Rene Ranger 23. Tom Homer

Tactics

Our generic gameplan revolves around a high intensity attacking and defensive game.

In attack our primary gameplan is always to control possession and run the ball, utilising big carriers attacking gaps in the line, and looking to offload to support runners to continue getting over the gainline and keep the ball alive. However, re recognise that the ball will be damp in this game so if the offload is not on, we will take the contact and look to recycle quickly at the breakdown. If running the ball is not on we will uitilise the kicking game of one of our backs to take us into the right area of the pitch.

In defence we will look to blitz, with our scrum half sweeping behind the defensive line. Key for us is line speed, getting up to make the tackle before the ball carrier hits the gainline, and confidence and trust in the man next to you in the defensive line, meaning we will not jump out or get pulled to far away from the next defender leaving gaps that can be exploited.

At the breakdown, we will not overcommit players. If the ball is not there to be won, then we will commit 1 or 2 players to legally slow it down whilst maintaining a strong defensive line across the pitch. If the ball looks like it is there to be won, we will look to get more numbers there quickly, with the first 1 or 2 players immediately rucking past the ball to clear the opposition players who are trying to get hands on it, and the next man in will then look to get it out quickly for us to counter attack on turnover ball.

On our own ball at the scrum, we will look for Adam Jones to drop anchor so that we can get it in and out quickly (as the Reds did in Super XV last season) and launch attacking moves off the back of it. On Quins put in we will look to really contest, with Jones looking to get underneath Rees left shoulder and really split him and Stankovic to destabalise their position.


Game Specific Tactics

  • Go through the phases - We will not be kicking the ball today unless we really have to. We will control possesion and starve Quins of any ball. If we need to kick, it will be to touch.

  • Target the gainline - We will look to carry straight and hard and really attack the gainline to get over it. We will particularly target the 10-12-13 channels with big carriers.

  • Target Quins lineout - We will look to really pressure Rees throwing to secure turnovers.


Key Points

  • Home advantage - Our record at home over 4 seasons is second to none. Just 2 defeats in Premiership and Heineken Cup matches. Vicarage Road is a fortress.

  • World Class players - We have a number of genuinely world class players who can rightly claim to arguably be the bes tin the world in thier position. That is a massive lift for the entire team. We also include 5 players who featured int eh World Cup final.

  • Gameplan - Conditions are are good, and both teams are looking to run the ball rather than kicking. The net result of this will be less scrums, so we have picked a ball carrying loosehead to suit the conditions and gameplan, safe in the knowledge that we have the best scrummaging tighthead in the world on current form on the other side to anchor the scrum.

  • Advantages - Steve has highlighted that he feels that Quins have the advantage in the back 3 and will look to exploit this. I disagree on current form, but in any case you need to earn the right to go wide, and I would argue that we have a definite advantage in midfield, where Quins will struggle to earn that right to try to unleash their strike runners.




Harlequins
Manager – Steven_Sharks

01. Boris Stankovich09. Lee Dickson
02. Matthew Rees10. Rhys Priestland (k)
03. John Afoa
04. Jerome Thion11. Zac Guildford
05. George Skivington12. Riki Flutey
06. Francois Louw13. Jonathan Joseph
07. Sam Warburton (c)14. Joe Rokocoko
08. Jamie Heaslip15. Rob Kearney

16. Chris Brooker 17. Matias Aguero 18. Brian Mujati 19. James Gaskell 20. Phil Dowson 21. Karl Dickson 22. Quade Cooper 23. George Lowe

Tactics


Game Plan

Our game plan is based around ball retention, aggression upfront and a fluid attacking game.
In attack we are looking to keep hold of the ball for long periods and tire out Saracens by playing with a quick tempo. This tempo can be maintained by players getting across the gain line when carrying, looking for the offload and by having honesty at the rucks. By this I mean that we have to commit the right numbers to rucks to get us the quick ball rather than try to get away with the minimal amount. The offload game is key to our fluidity and we have a side which is very comfortable with ball in hand and this is good for our game plan. Aggression up front is something which we always look to provide and I feel we have a really aggressive and nasty front 5 which can get at Saracens upfront.

The conditions suit our game plan today and when the quick ball is there for us and we have committed defenders to the fringes then we want to get the ball into the spaces out wide. We have

Forwards

We are looking for strong aggressive carrying from our forwards to get us over the gain line. Carrying in numbers, at pace and looking to win the collisions is key to us as usual. Drive the legs after the collision key to getting a cross the gainline. We are also looking for our forwards to work hard to get to rucks and get us the quick ball.

At the set piece we want to make a real battle of it. We are very happy with our scrum and think we can put some pressure onto Saracens and certainly win our own ball. We consider the front 5 to be strong scrummagers and we want them to try to exert some pressure here. Lineouts will be cut short when between the two 22 m lines to free up carriers in the midfield.

Backs

We have picked a backline which is comfortable with the ball in hand and we are going to look for them to put those around them into space and look to attack the weak defenders or the inside shoulders of defenders. When we are getting quick ball we want to get the ball into the dangermen outwide. We will also look for Kearney and the wingers to get involved as often as possible when the game breaks up. We will look to have our forwards running in the midfield with our backs looking to play in wider channels.

Defence

In defence we will look to play with a quick line speed and put pressure onto the key Saracens decision makers. We will look to bring aggression in the contact in defence as well as attack and will look to knock isolated Saracens carriers backwards. We will look to slow down Saracens ball at the ruck and try to turn over the ball. We will do this by getting the first man to the ruck and contesting on our feet or by adapting a good body position and then ruck Saracens off the ball.

Key Points

- Commit enough men to the rucks to get the quick ball. Our whole game is based upon quick ball, a quick tempo ,controlled by Lee Dickson and ball retention.
- Look to dominate the breakdown with Warburton and Louw looking to control this.
- Look to offload in or before the contact. Priestland and Flutey all about putting other players into gaps and have both been picked with their ability to do this in mind.
- Look to get the ball into the wide channels as soon as we have tied defenders in. Use our pace outwide.
- Keep our discipline. Don’t give away silly penalties and give Saracens anything easily.
- Look to use Kearney’s ability under the high ball and Priestland’s enormous boot to put up some up and unders. We can use this as an exit strategy should we become static.
- Use our bench right time. Conditions mean that fatigue will be evident for both sides and we will look to introduce our impact players so they have enough time to get involved.

Game Specific Key Points

- Target Lahiff. We see us having the scrum advantage whilst he is on and will look to take advantage of this.
- We feel we have the advantage in the back 3 and we will look to take advantage of this when we get into the wide channels.
- We don’t intend to get into many kicking battles, but if it is required we feel we have the stronger punt kickers on show.







Bath Rugby v Northampton Saints
Sunny, 16 Degrees, 6mph Winds


Bath Rugby
Manager – inthefastlane
01. Jon Golding 09. Fourie du Preez
02. Joe Ward10. Gareth Anscombe
03. Davit Kubrashvilli
04. Louis Deacon11. George North
05.Sam Whitelock12. Maxime Mermoz
06. Sean O’Brien13. Aurelien Rougerie
07. Will Skinner 14. Tom Varndell
08. JMF Lobbe15. Kurtley Beale
16. Dave Wilson 17. Will Tanner 18. Euan Murray 19. Rob Simmons 20. Tom Guest 21. Richard Wigglesworth 22. Olly Woodburn 23. Isiah Toeava
Tactics
Psychological
15 wins in 18 games is a brilliant record to have and our players are all brimming with confidence. One of the wins was an away wins over Saints which has given us confidence at home. We also feel we are the more rested team. Halfpenny, Phillips and Manu have played the 4 last weeks, two huge international games included. Mullan, Webber and Sivi have played 3 consecutive games including a cup final. Lapandry has played 4 weeks in a row, with Lawes playing 5 and Albacete the last 7. Will be feeling the effects.

Overall
We will be looking to play entertaining, attacking rugby attacking off our set piece superiority

Set Piece
Our formidable front row has been picked to play well in loose. We are also confident that if need be they can dominate in a scrum. Stevens isn’t a great scrummager let alone on his weaker side so target him while Kubrashvilli will target inexperienced Mullan. Lobbe will control it at the back. We will be using the scrum as an option as much as possible as we feel we can really dominate here. At the lineout we have options with Whitelock and Lobbe capable of taking opposition ball. At the front we have Deacon offering the banker ball.

Kicking
We will look to put the ball behind the Warriors back three and put pressure on them in their own 22 with Lobbe leading the chase. We will not be give them a chance to counter attack so we shall only use this sparingly though. Beale will be our main kicker looking to take on anything in range. FDP offers another box kicking option which we can use. Anscombe is another option if needs be.

Ball in Hand
Our game plan is based around our attacking skills with the ball in hand. With Healy, SOB, Lobbe etc we have some of the best forwards who can real make inroads with their running. We will look to make sure runners aren’t isolated with good tracking and will offload if there is minimal risk.

FDP will look to control the tempo of the backline. He has 6 explosive runners outside of him and will look to use his experience to make plays. Anscombe is some talent and will be looking to drag defenders away from teammates. Look to get our back 5 into space running at people

Defence
We will look for a quick defensive line to put pressure on the key Saints decision makers. Our defense will leave Beale trailing to get any deep kicks. He will be able to either return with interest or able to make a good run.

We will be looking to isolate runners and force a turnover by getting bodies into the breakdown when we see an opportunity and use Skinners skill in the ground. We feel this is somewhere we can really get an advantage so will look to go for a turnover whenever there is a chance.

Substitutions
We really feel our substitutes can come on and maintain dominance. Euan Murray is well rested and is a destructive scrummager alongside Tanner and Wilson. Simmons will come on and look to put in big yards and make his impact felt. Guest we feel can have a positive impact with his running game. Wigglesworth is a good experienced head who can keep us controlled at the end of the game. Wooburn and Toeava we will look to bring on and use their fresh legs to maximum effectiveness with explosive running.



Northampton Saints
Manager – Dammit Chris

01. Matt Mullan 09. Mike Phillips
02. Rob Webber10. Matt Giteau (c)
03. Matt Stevens
04. Courtney Lawes11. Elliot Daly
05.Patricio Albacete 12. Weslie Fofana
06. Dan Lydiate13. Manu Tuilagi
07. Alexander Lapandry 14. Siti Siviatu
08. Sergio Parisse15. Leigh Halfpenny(k)

16. Chris Whitehead 17. Thomas Domingo 18. Carl Hayman 19. Joe Launchbury 20. Liam Messam 21. Sam Harrison 22. Danny Cipriani 23. Max Evans

Tactics

Overall - Saints are now on a good roll, scoring tries freely and playing with a lot of confidence. Again our game will be based around a pack that controls possession, using our big ball carriers to get us over the gainline and play a fast, high-tempo game where we look to put our backthree into scoring positions. We welcome back Lydiate, Parisse and Fofana into the starting lineup, and will look for Lydiate to stop the Bath backrow getting over the gainline. We will look to score tries, and frustrate Bath.

Attack - we will continue to play our structured game that evolves working through the phases, getting our big ball carriers on the ball and over the gainline (Albacete, Lawes, Parisse, Fofana, Tuilagi and Siviatu) - we will look to use our midfield a lot in the game and get them running at their opposite numbers, we see we have an advantage in the 10, 12, 13 channel and will look to get as much ball going through Giteau, Fofana and Tuilagi as possible - each offers a completely different attacking threat.

We will get runners going off Giteau, Fofana and Tuilagi - each is capable of making a linebreak at any time in the game and we hope to exploit any opportunities to get in behind the bath midfield.

We will not be afraid to attack from deep as the conditions are perfect for our backline and our pack will certainly hold its own. However, Phillips and Giteau will control the game, and ensure that we do not play ourselves into trouble.

Defence - the return of Lydiate makes a huge difference to our defensive play, he was the standout defender in this year's 6Nations and along with Lawes is tasked with stopping Lobbe and O'Brien from getting over the gainline and slowing down Bath ball at source. As normal we will play an aggressive defence, putting our opposition under pressure, using Phillips to get at du Preez and then having a rush defence on the 10-12-13 channel and try and make the most of the Bath 10's inexperience. We feel that if we can stop the Bath backrows getting over the gainline then we can win this game - with Lawes, Albacete, Lydiate and Parisse we certainly have the defensive players to do this.

We also want to make sure that we do not invite Bath to pressurise us in our own half and when we get the ball (espc. in our own 22) we will get Halfpenny to clear lines and get the ball into touch, as we do not want Beale to run into open space, although Fofana, Tuilagi and Halfpenny are all top class tacklers.

We have positioned Siviatu against North so he can test him both offensively and defensively - Siviatu has been in very good form, so will be a good battle between the two.

Set Piece - Again our front three are fresh, and we are able to bring on Domingo, Whitehead and Hayman in the second half to bolster our scrum and will use this to put pressure on Bath. We will use the scrum as an attacking weapon to launch Parisse or get Phillips running at the Bath no10.

Our lineout is boosted with the return of Parisse and we will look to focus on securing good quality ball from parisse, lawes and albacete. On Bath ball we will position Lydiate at the back, so he can stop any attacks from quick ball in what is a dangerous Bath backline.

Breakdown - we've made two changes from last week against Wasps in the backrow, bringing in Lydiate and Parisse to partner Lapandry - we will look to target the breakdown with Lydiate slowing down Bath ball and Lapandry and Parisse targeting turnovers. We are fortunate that Fofana and Tuilagi are also very adept at the breakdown - defensively we are very confident in this area of slowing down ball, but will certainly compete for turnovers when opportunities present themselves.

Key Points
* For the first time this season we are full of confidence, scoring 11 tries in 3 games, winning the LV Trophy and getting a try scoring BP against Wasps last week - we feel we have the defensive capabilities to prevent Bath's dangermen getting over the gainline and the attacking talent in our team to score tries away from home.
* Team is full of leaders and captains (Webber, Albacete, Lydiate, Parisse, Giteau etc) - we have built a team around the same structure of England circa 2000-2003 and see this as very important to win away from home.
* We have a solid pack, which will hold its own, but is also extremely mobile and the conditions are perfect for us - we can then turn the screw in the second half by bringing on three front row forwards who can pressurise Bath in the set piece.
* Halfpenny's boot is a three-point machine - any penalties and we will go for goal and build up the score, forcing Bath to play rugby and look for tries.
* We have our best 8, 9, 10, 12, 13 combination playing together and they will cause Bath a lot of problems.
* Bench has a lot of impact players - Launchbury, Messam, Cipriani and Evans can all change the outcome of a game.







London Wasps v Gloucester Rugby
Sunny, 15 Degrees, 7mph Winds


London Wasps
Manager – ‘Arry

01. Perry Freshwater 09. Luke Burgess
02. Tatafu Polota-Nau10. Steven Myler (k)
03. Carlos Nieto
04. Steve Mafi 11. Christian Wade
05. Dan Tuohy 12. Dan Bowden
06. Rocky Elsom (c) 13. Jamie Roberts
07. Deon Stegmann 14. Takudzwa Ngwenya
08. Luke Narraway 15. Mike Brown

16. Benjamin Kayser 17. Jared Saunders 18. CJ Van Der Linde 19. Mouritz Botha 20. Jackson Wray 21. Nick Phipps 22. George Ford 23. Noah Cato

Tactics
We have picked a gritty, dynamic and physical forward pack with plenty of ball carriers which will hopefully get us over the gain line and onto the front foot. We feel that if we can assert ourselves physically and win the forward battle, providing our backs with a solid platform we will be able to beat Gloucester. We will look to push Gloucester onto the back foot and keep them there.

In the early stages, we will look to our dynamic forwards to get us onto the front foot by attacking in groups with some grunt and powerful carrying, getting us over the gain line. Hopefully our carriers will suck in Gloucester defenders, so we can spread the ball out wide to our dangerous runners to make use of the space on offer. We will start as we mean to go on with a high intensity, hitting the collision area hard and driving our players over the gain line. We will look to wear the Gloucester pack out and create mismatches in midfield to exploit.

Myler will play flat in attack, we will use Bowden as a second playmaking option, we will look to Roberts to run plenty of hard lines, looking to win collisions to get our offloading game going if it’s on. We will look to attack gaps and half gaps in the Gloucester defence and target the outside shoulder. We will support our carriers and drive them over the gain line and get quick ball to keep the momentum in our attacks. We will look to create space out wide for our wingers to exploit and make use of.

At the breakdown we will come from low to high in clearing out Gloucester players to ensure Burgess has clean ball. We will look to the kicking game of Myler to put the ball in behind the Gloucester wingers and keep them pinned back in their own half where we can pressurize them. We will hopefully be able to build attacks from the scrum and earn some penalties for Myler to make use of. Stegmann with his low centre of gravity will look to (legally) slow down the Gloucester ball. We will look to the scrum to provide us with a platform to build attacks from and keep Gloucester on the back foot. We will use a shortened line out, and launch our dynamic forwards, who are not in the lineout into midfield.



Gloucester
Manager – Mat

01. Guthro Steenkamp 09. Will Genia
02. Joe Grey10.Johan Goosen
03. Nicola Mas
04. Richie Grey11. Charlie Sharples
05.George Robson 12. Berrick Barnes
06. Stephen Ferris13. Richard Kahui
07. Andy Saull 14. Hosea Gear
08. Immanol Harinordoqouy15. Johnny May

16. Nick Wood17. Darren dawiduik 18. Julian White 19. Bakkies Botha 20. Schalk Burger 21. Connor Murray 22. Ryan Lamb 23. JSD


Glaws travel to adams park as the form side in the prem with lots of players who have been rotated through out the year feeling fresh.

The sun is out and we are hear to play some high intensity direct rugby.

Pack

We have gone for a hard scrummaging athletic pack to get around the park and carry the ball in to the heart of the wasps team.

Scrum

Despite the good weather leading to less scrums and slightly devaluing it glos will be targetting the scrum to get a nudge on our own ball to release the back row and to try and disrupt the wasps put in and make them have poor ball.

lineout- We see this as a massive advantage for us. We have 5 lineout options and in Robson Gray and Hari we will look to use the lineout as a great way of attacking off the back. We will be looking to drive the ball and suck them in before launching runners such as ferris and Hari off the back or to go wide with their back row sucked in.

Defensively we will use hari robson and Gray to really pressure the wasps throw and starve them of attacking ball. With Myler at ten they will look to kick a lot and we are hoping that our obvious lineout strength will make them kick in field meaning may, sharples and Gear can counter attack at will. TPN has really struggled with his darts all season so we think our lineout and his throwing will make us own the lineout battle

general forward play

We will be looking to use the sheer amount of carriers in our pack to get us over the gain line and win the physical battle against wasps. With so many talented dynamic carriers we will be looking to use the offload when on. Gray, hari and Ferris are particularly sublime with this and it will help to put us in behind the wasps defence where we will look to get quick ball to release our backs.

Backs.

We will be looking to play off quick ball to try and score tries and enjoy the weather. Genias job will be to get the ball to goosen and let him decide. Goosen is in great form kicking huge goals and launching attack after attack in an excellent attacking side the cheetahs.

In our own 22 he will be looking to clear the ball to touch so we can attack their lineout. He will also try and isolate wade against Gear for the cross field kick and indeed will test out Both wasps wings with the high ball.

Anywhere outside our ten metre line with quick ball Goosen will be looking to attack. berrick barnes inside him offers stability and a second kicking option and creative role. We will be looking to commit roberts in his unfamiliar 13 role and then go wide creating mismatches.

Gear who is in great form will be looking to go one on one against wade.

We will employ an in yourt face defence to try and force wasps to kick. If its in touch we fancy the lineout but if its in field MAy, Sharples and Gear will run it back with interest looking to isolate forwards.

As the game breaks up and the hotter conditions take their toll we will be looking to use quick throw ins and really up the tempo.

We intend to use our bench as required but having a bench that contains names such as Bakkies, Burger, JSD, Murray etc is a huge plus and an advantage we hope can help us secure the BP win.

We are aiming to get in the top 2 so are targetting the BP win.





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Post by stnick88 Mon Mar 26, 2012 2:24 pm

Nice weather down in Exeter for some running rugby, time to make it 4 on the bounce

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon Mar 26, 2012 2:39 pm

This would be a good week for me to get the Scalp of Saracens.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon Mar 26, 2012 3:00 pm

Sarries - Quins looks the pic this week

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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon Mar 26, 2012 3:05 pm

I think it's fair to say I have a pretty tricky run in. Glad I have rotated loads this season so shouldn't get stung for fatigue putting my big guns out.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon Mar 26, 2012 3:13 pm

Not having any European games is big for me. Certainly helps with fatigue but have also done plenty of rotation.

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Post by stnick88 Mon Mar 26, 2012 3:23 pm

Think most teams have rotated well.
I might have to prioritise either league or HC.

Looking at my HC it would be away to Glos in semi if I even won at Sale, which may of just made my mind up for me!

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Mon Mar 26, 2012 4:42 pm

Sale Sharks
Manager – SJE

01. Jerome Schuster 09. Danny Care
02. David Paice 10. Aaron Cruden
03. Luc Ducalcon
04. Brodie Retallick 11. Luke Rooney
05. Stephen Sykes 12. Jordan Turner Hall
06. Victor Vito 13. James Hook
07. Peter O'Mahony 14. Lelia Masaga
08. Wycliffe Palu 15. Nick Abendanon

16. Nathan Catt 17. Agustin Creevy 18. Neemia Tialata 19. Alun Wyn Jones 20. Michael Lipman 21. Ben Spencer 22. Olly Barkley 23. Sam Smith





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Post by Driver Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:02 pm

Good luck Nick , i'll be picking a team to please the crowd with fine rugby conditions.
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Post by Driver Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:43 pm

Exeter Chiefs

Manager – Driver

01.Alisdair Dickinson09.Haydn Thomas
02.Lee Mears10.Nick Mcleod(k)
03.Ben Alexander
04.Flip Van Der Merwe11.Luke Fitzgerald
05.James Hudson (c)12.Damian Traille
06.Declan Danahar13.George Pisi
07.Juilian Salvi14.Matt Smith
08.Johnnie Beattie15.Andrea Masi

16.Neil Clark 17.Brett Sturgess 18.Werner Kruger 19.Juilian Pierre 20.Shane Jennings 21.Rob Coote 22.Henry Slade 23.Adam Thompstone


With weather set for running rugby Exeter are out to put on a show for there home support and target the win against London Irish.

We’ve picked a team based around running the ball and it starts with Dickinson and Alexander at the scrum two props who relish the loose play and this will allow us to play at a high tempo and let it flow through the team and really take the game to Irish.

Just because we’re playing a high tempo doesn’t mean we won’t utilise the boots of McLeod and Traille at 10 and 12 with both threading kicks through and kicking behind the Irish wings to gain vital yards in the Irish half.

Luke Fitzgerald will look to pop up from his wing in the first receiver channel and look to use his pace to get away from Hernandez and really attack the line with Thomas tying in the back row by sniping prior to the pass to make him the centre of attention.


Key points of game plan

Retain the ball in the opposition half and look to play a bit and get the crowd going.

Thomas and Mcleod are great thinkers on the pitch and will control the tempo and playing the game the right ways at the right times.

Leave the Irish 22 with points everytime


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Post by prop_lyd Mon Mar 26, 2012 10:12 pm

01.Sylvain Marconnet09.Dwayne Peel
02.Michael Mayhew10.Morne Steyn (k)
03.Chris Budgen
04.Jim Hamilton11.Bryan Habana
05.Dom Barrow12.Pat McCabe
06.Ryan Jones13.Jon Clarke
07.Craig Newby (c)14.Marcel Garvey
08.Ben Morgan15.Ollie Morgan

16.Chris Fortey 17.David Flatman 18.BJ Botha 19.Kearnen Myall 20.Mamuka Gorgodze 21.Byron Kelleher 22.Tom Heathcote 23.Shane Williams

Tactics
Forwards: We have picked a pack and big engine room who won't go backwards. Both will look to get the edge on his side and with Hamilton behind him this should be fairly easy to do. Strauss will look to go for each ball and catch them off guard. We will look to get the edge on the hit and put them under pressure instantly with a pack used to playing with each other. Our back rown can match them at the breakdown and Morgan will always make yards when he picks or carries. Jones and Newby will lead from the front at the tackle area looking for turnovers and to put a lot of pressure on the breakdown. Lineouts will be kept simple and we will put two up to compete. Our bench has impact forwards with Botha, Myall and Gorgodze all able to change a match. We know Budgen can't last 80minutes so; if he's on top at half time we will look to push him out for 50mins!

Backs: Quick ball to Steyn where Peel will provide this he will also look to snipe off 3rd or 4th phase. Steyn will play what's ahead of him, he will look to pin them back in their own half and we will look to release our dangerous backline when the ball is quick. Any slow ball will go to forwards or off the park. McCabe will lead from the front and look to offload to runners. We will bring Habana and Garvey into the match as often as possible to work around tired forwards. Steyn will take 3 points when possible to keep the scores close. We again have game changing subs who will all make an impact and will be used to help close out a match. Our backrow will look to be stood between 10-13 and take the ball up any channel with space.

Defence: Look to have 2 men on 10 stopping the ball being shipped out. We will adopt a blitz drift defence looking to close off any gaps which may appear. Peel will look to sweep and snipe and our backrow will look to be 2nd to the breakdown to force the turnover.


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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon Mar 26, 2012 10:29 pm

stnick88 wrote:Think most teams have rotated well.
I might have to prioritise either league or HC.

Looking at my HC it would be away to Glos in semi if I even won at Sale, which may of just made my mind up for me!

The majority of teams have rotated lots this season and those with bigger squads should have no fatigue issues really in the run in.
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Post by stnick88 Tue Mar 27, 2012 2:37 pm

London Irish
Manager – stnick88

01. Soane Tonga'uhia 09. Ruan Pienaar
02. Andrew Hore 10. Juan Martin Hernandez
03. WP Nel
04. Matt Garvey 11. Paul Sackey
05. Nick Kennedy 12. Sonny Bill Williams
06. Keegan Daniel 13. Conrad Smith
07. Steffon Armitage 14. Sailosi Tagicakibau
08. Pierre Spies 15. Delon Armitage

16. Rodrigo Roncero 17. James Buckland 18. Duncan Bell 19. Stuart Hooper 20. Hendrie Fourie 21. Julien Dupuy 22. Luke McAllister 23. Marland Yarde

London Irish make 4 changes from the impressive win over Leicester Tigers last week. 3 of those come in the front row, with Soane Tonga'uhia, Andrew Hore and WP Nel replacing Roncero, Buckland and Castrogiovanni. The other change sees Paul Sackey replace Bjorn Basson.

'We've freshened up the front row after last weeks tough encounter against the Tigers, and this week have more mobility with Soane, Andrew Hore and WP. Castro has earnt his rest after last weeks performance and we want him fresh for next weeks visit of Saracens. Sandy Park is a tough place to go and Exeter are scrapping for everything. We will have to be on our game and not give away silly penalties or McLeod will punish us. We're looking to make it 4 league wins in a row and are making a big push towards the play off's. That is our goal and we set ourselves a minimum target of reaching the playoff's. We need to win all our remaining games and it starts here at Sandy Park.'

Tactics

- In good conditions, play an attacking, running game, similar to the recent victories over Saints, away at Wasps and against Tigers last week. We will run back loose kicks and not look to give away possession. We want to keep the ball in hand, run at the Chiefs, tire their defence and look for mismatches.
- We use the scrum as a an attacking platform, with two good scrummaging props we will look to turn the screw and win penalties or use Spies to pick up and carry or Pienaar to get the ball out to the backs. Nel has been picked this week for his loose play. He is a strong carrier and hits rucks hard and tackles a lot. This will help us in an expansive game.
- We will look to win the contact area and the collisions. With Nel, Garvey, Spies, Steffon, SBW in the side, we have some big, powerful units who will look to smash over the gain line and put Exeter on the backfoot. We will look for quick ball for Pienaar to use and create opportunities with.
- Kennedy will be our main lineout target and we willl look for quick ball off the top on most occasions, if not use Garvey at the front to create a maul.
- We willl look to dominate possession and tire the Chiefs defence. Spies, Daniel, Armitage, Garvey will carry hard and look to make inroads. We will look for Pienaar and JMH to play what is infront of them and put SBW and co into gaps and space. Our wingers, especially Tagicakibau, will come inside and along with Smith, look to gather the offloads from SBW, which he will only do when it is on.
- At the breakdown, we will look to use our powerful flankers and the breakdown skills of Steffon to secure quick ball and slow down opposition ball. Any turnover ball will be counter attacked.
- Pienaar will kick all pens for goal in range. If not we will go for touch and use the lineout as a platform to attack.
- If any attacks become slow and we are in danger of being turned of making a mistake, we will look for JMH to pop over a drop goal to keep the scoreboard ticking over.
- We have plenty of impact off the bench to keep things fresh and hopefully see out the game.
- We have won 3 league games in a row, morale and confidence is high and we will look to continue our good form in our battle for the playoffs.



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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue Mar 27, 2012 2:45 pm

Saracens make 4 changes to the starting XV that earned a creditable draw away at Edgeley Park last week, for this weeks visit of Harlequins to Vicarage Road. 6 Nations stars Adam Jones and Thierry Dusautoir return with Jannie du Plessis and Tom Johnson dropping to the bench, and Max Lahiff steps up from the bench to replace Tendai Mtwarira. In the backs James Short comes onto the wing in place of Mark Cueto who drops out of the 23 altogether. Patric Lambie also drops out of the matchday 23 with Rene Ranger and Tom Homer completing the bench.

Head coach Ozzy3213 had this to say…

"Edgeley Park is never an easy place to go and I thought we toughed things out well against a very good Sale Sharks side last week. It is pleasing to be able to bring in Adam (Jones) and Thierry (Dusautoir) this week as they are arguably the standout players in world rugby in their positions right now. Max (Lahiff) has also looked good in training and off the bench and deserves the opportunity to start alongside two world class performers in the front row. We know that Quins are fighting hard to make the play-offs as we are, and we will need to be on our game for the entire match if we are going to come away with the win."

Saracens
Manager – Ozzy3213

01. Max Lahiff09. Morgan Parra
02. Bismarck du Plessis10. Francois Trinh-Duc
03. Adam Jones
04. Dave Attwood11. Tim Visser
05. Lionel Nallet12. Ma'a Nonu
06. Thierry Dusautoir13. Jonathon Davies
07. Tom Wood14. James Short
08. Joe van Niekerk (c)15. Alex Goode

16. George Chuter 17. Tendai Mtwarira 18. Jannie du Plessis 19. Graham Kitchener 20. Tom Johnson 21. Paul Hodgson 22. Rene Ranger 23. Tom Homer

Tactics

Our generic gameplan revolves around a high intensity attacking and defensive game.

In attack our primary gameplan is always to control possession and run the ball, utilising big carriers attacking gaps in the line, and looking to offload to support runners to continue getting over the gainline and keep the ball alive. However, re recognise that the ball will be damp in this game so if the offload is not on, we will take the contact and look to recycle quickly at the breakdown. If running the ball is not on we will uitilise the kicking game of one of our backs to take us into the right area of the pitch.

In defence we will look to blitz, with our scrum half sweeping behind the defensive line. Key for us is line speed, getting up to make the tackle before the ball carrier hits the gainline, and confidence and trust in the man next to you in the defensive line, meaning we will not jump out or get pulled to far away from the next defender leaving gaps that can be exploited.

At the breakdown, we will not overcommit players. If the ball is not there to be won, then we will commit 1 or 2 players to legally slow it down whilst maintaining a strong defensive line across the pitch. If the ball looks like it is there to be won, we will look to get more numbers there quickly, with the first 1 or 2 players immediately rucking past the ball to clear the opposition players who are trying to get hands on it, and the next man in will then look to get it out quickly for us to counter attack on turnover ball.

On our own ball at the scrum, we will look for Adam Jones to drop anchor so that we can get it in and out quickly (as the Reds did in Super XV last season) and launch attacking moves off the back of it. On Quins put in we will look to really contest, with Jones looking to get underneath Rees left shoulder and really split him and Stankovic to destabalise their position.


Game Specific Tactics

  • Go through the phases - We will not be kicking the ball today unless we really have to. We will control possesion and starve Quins of any ball. If we need to kick, it will be to touch.

  • Target the gainline - We will look to carry straight and hard and really attack the gainline to get over it. We will particularly target the 10-12-13 channels with big carriers.

  • Target Quins lineout - We will look to really pressure Rees throwing to secure turnovers.


Key Points

  • Home advantage - Our record at home over 4 seasons is second to none. Just 2 defeats in Premiership and Heineken Cup matches. Vicarage Road is a fortress.

  • World Class players - We have a number of genuinely world class players who can rightly claim to arguably be the bes tin the world in thier position. That is a massive lift for the entire team. We also include 5 players who featured int eh World Cup final.

  • Gameplan - Conditions are are good, and both teams are looking to run the ball rather than kicking. The net result of this will be less scrums, so we have picked a ball carrying loosehead to suit the conditions and gameplan, safe in the knowledge that we have the best scrummaging tighthead in the world on current form on the other side to anchor the scrum.

  • Advantages - Steve has highlighted that he feels that Quins have the advantage in the back 3 and will look to exploit this. I disagree on current form, but in any case you need to earn the right to go wide, and I would argue that we have a definite advantage in midfield, where Quins will struggle to earn that right to try to unleash their strike runners.


Best of luck Steve mate, these tough games seems to be coming thick and fast at the moment. OK


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Post by Steven_Sharks Tue Mar 27, 2012 3:40 pm

Harlequins
Manager – Steven_Sharks

01. Boris Stankovich09. Lee Dickson
02. Matthew Rees10. Rhys Priestland (k)
03. John Afoa
04. Jerome Thion11. Zac Guildford
05. George Skivington12. Riki Flutey
06. Francois Louw13. Jonathan Joseph
07. Sam Warburton (c)14. Joe Rokocoko
08. Jamie Heaslip15. Rob Kearney

16. Chris Brooker 17. Matias Aguero 18. Brian Mujati 19. James Gaskell 20. Phil Dowson 21. Karl Dickson 22. Quade Cooper 23. George Lowe

Tactics


Game Plan

Our game plan is based around ball retention, aggression upfront and a fluid attacking game.
In attack we are looking to keep hold of the ball for long periods and tire out Saracens by playing with a quick tempo. This tempo can be maintained by players getting across the gain line when carrying, looking for the offload and by having honesty at the rucks. By this I mean that we have to commit the right numbers to rucks to get us the quick ball rather than try to get away with the minimal amount. The offload game is key to our fluidity and we have a side which is very comfortable with ball in hand and this is good for our game plan. Aggression up front is something which we always look to provide and I feel we have a really aggressive and nasty front 5 which can get at Saracens upfront.

The conditions suit our game plan today and when the quick ball is there for us and we have committed defenders to the fringes then we want to get the ball into the spaces out wide. We have

Forwards

We are looking for strong aggressive carrying from our forwards to get us over the gain line. Carrying in numbers, at pace and looking to win the collisions is key to us as usual. Drive the legs after the collision key to getting a cross the gainline. We are also looking for our forwards to work hard to get to rucks and get us the quick ball.

At the set piece we want to make a real battle of it. We are very happy with our scrum and think we can put some pressure onto Saracens and certainly win our own ball. We consider the front 5 to be strong scrummagers and we want them to try to exert some pressure here. Lineouts will be cut short when between the two 22 m lines to free up carriers in the midfield.

Backs

We have picked a backline which is comfortable with the ball in hand and we are going to look for them to put those around them into space and look to attack the weak defenders or the inside shoulders of defenders. When we are getting quick ball we want to get the ball into the dangermen outwide. We will also look for Kearney and the wingers to get involved as often as possible when the game breaks up. We will look to have our forwards running in the midfield with our backs looking to play in wider channels.

Defence

In defence we will look to play with a quick line speed and put pressure onto the key Saracens decision makers. We will look to bring aggression in the contact in defence as well as attack and will look to knock isolated Saracens carriers backwards. We will look to slow down Saracens ball at the ruck and try to turn over the ball. We will do this by getting the first man to the ruck and contesting on our feet or by adapting a good body position and then ruck Saracens off the ball.

Key Points

- Commit enough men to the rucks to get the quick ball. Our whole game is based upon quick ball, a quick tempo ,controlled by Lee Dickson and ball retention.
- Look to dominate the breakdown with Warburton and Louw looking to control this.
- Look to offload in or before the contact. Priestland and Flutey all about putting other players into gaps and have both been picked with their ability to do this in mind.
- Look to get the ball into the wide channels as soon as we have tied defenders in. Use our pace outwide.
- Keep our discipline. Don’t give away silly penalties and give Saracens anything easily.
- Look to use Kearney’s ability under the high ball and Priestland’s enormous boot to put up some up and unders. We can use this as an exit strategy should we become static.
- Use our bench right time. Conditions mean that fatigue will be evident for both sides and we will look to introduce our impact players so they have enough time to get involved.

Game Specific Key Points

- Target Lahiff. We see us having the scrum advantage whilst he is on and will look to take advantage of this.
- We feel we have the advantage in the back 3 and we will look to take advantage of this when we get into the wide channels.
- We don’t intend to get into many kicking battles, but if it is required we feel we have the stronger punt kickers on show.


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Post by CJB Tue Mar 27, 2012 5:29 pm

Bath Rugby
Manager – inthefastlane
01. Jon Golding 09. Fourie du Preez
02. Joe Ward10. Gareth Anscombe
03. Davit Kubrashvilli
04. Louis Deacon11. George North
05.Sam Whitelock12. Maxime Mermoz
06. Sean O’Brien13. Aurelien Rougerie
07. Will Skinner 14. Tom Varndell
08. JMF Lobbe15. Kurtley Beale
16. Dave Wilson 17. Will Tanner 18. Euan Murray 19. Rob Simmons 20. Tom Guest 21. Richard Wigglesworth 22. Olly Woodburn 23. Isiah Toeava
Tactics
Psychological
15 wins in 18 games is a brilliant record to have and our players are all brimming with confidence. One of the wins was an away wins over Saints which has given us confidence at home. We also feel we are the more rested team. Halfpenny, Phillips and Manu have played the 4 last weeks, two huge international games included. Mullan, Webber and Sivi have played 3 consecutive games including a cup final. Lapandry has played 4 weeks in a row, with Lawes playing 5 and Albacete the last 7. Will be feeling the effects.

Overall
We will be looking to play entertaining, attacking rugby attacking off our set piece superiority

Set Piece
Our formidable front row has been picked to play well in loose. We are also confident that if need be they can dominate in a scrum. Stevens isn’t a great scrummager let alone on his weaker side so target him while Kubrashvilli will target inexperienced Mullan. Lobbe will control it at the back. We will be using the scrum as an option as much as possible as we feel we can really dominate here. At the lineout we have options with Whitelock and Lobbe capable of taking opposition ball. At the front we have Deacon offering the banker ball.

Kicking
We will look to put the ball behind the Warriors back three and put pressure on them in their own 22 with Lobbe leading the chase. We will not be give them a chance to counter attack so we shall only use this sparingly though. Beale will be our main kicker looking to take on anything in range. FDP offers another box kicking option which we can use. Anscombe is another option if needs be.

Ball in Hand
Our game plan is based around our attacking skills with the ball in hand. With Healy, SOB, Lobbe etc we have some of the best forwards who can real make inroads with their running. We will look to make sure runners aren’t isolated with good tracking and will offload if there is minimal risk.

FDP will look to control the tempo of the backline. He has 6 explosive runners outside of him and will look to use his experience to make plays. Anscombe is some talent and will be looking to drag defenders away from teammates. Look to get our back 5 into space running at people

Defence
We will look for a quick defensive line to put pressure on the key Saints decision makers. Our defense will leave Beale trailing to get any deep kicks. He will be able to either return with interest or able to make a good run.

We will be looking to isolate runners and force a turnover by getting bodies into the breakdown when we see an opportunity and use Skinners skill in the ground. We feel this is somewhere we can really get an advantage so will look to go for a turnover whenever there is a chance.

Substitutions
We really feel our substitutes can come on and maintain dominance. Euan Murray is well rested and is a destructive scrummager alongside Tanner and Wilson. Simmons will come on and look to put in big yards and make his impact felt. Guest we feel can have a positive impact with his running game. Wigglesworth is a good experienced head who can keep us controlled at the end of the game. Wooburn and Toeava we will look to bring on and use their fresh legs to maximum effectiveness with explosive running.


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Post by 'Arry Spurs Tue Mar 27, 2012 6:05 pm

London Wasps
Manager – ‘Arry

01. Perry Freshwater 09. Luke Burgess
02. Tatafu Polota-Nau10. Steven Myler (k)
03. Carlos Nieto
04. Steve Mafi 11. Christian Wade
05. Dan Tuohy 12. Dan Bowden
06. Rocky Elsom (c) 13. Jamie Roberts
07. Deon Stegmann 14. Takudzwa Ngwenya
08. Luke Narraway 15. Mike Brown

16. Benjamin Kayser 17. Jared Saunders 18. CJ Van Der Linde 19. Mouritz Botha 20. Jackson Wray 21. Nick Phipps 22. George Ford 23. Noah Cato

Tactics
We have picked a gritty, dynamic and physical forward pack with plenty of ball carriers which will hopefully get us over the gain line and onto the front foot. We feel that if we can assert ourselves physically and win the forward battle, providing our backs with a solid platform we will be able to beat Gloucester. We will look to push Gloucester onto the back foot and keep them there.

In the early stages, we will look to our dynamic forwards to get us onto the front foot by attacking in groups with some grunt and powerful carrying, getting us over the gain line. Hopefully our carriers will suck in Gloucester defenders, so we can spread the ball out wide to our dangerous runners to make use of the space on offer. We will start as we mean to go on with a high intensity, hitting the collision area hard and driving our players over the gain line. We will look to wear the Gloucester pack out and create mismatches in midfield to exploit.

Myler will play flat in attack, we will use Bowden as a second playmaking option, we will look to Roberts to run plenty of hard lines, looking to win collisions to get our offloading game going if it’s on. We will look to attack gaps and half gaps in the Gloucester defence and target the outside shoulder. We will support our carriers and drive them over the gain line and get quick ball to keep the momentum in our attacks. We will look to create space out wide for our wingers to exploit and make use of.

At the breakdown we will come from low to high in clearing out Gloucester players to ensure Burgess has clean ball. We will look to the kicking game of Myler to put the ball in behind the Gloucester wingers and keep them pinned back in their own half where we can pressurize them. We will hopefully be able to build attacks from the scrum and earn some penalties for Myler to make use of. Stegmann with his low centre of gravity will look to (legally) slow down the Gloucester ball. We will look to the scrum to provide us with a platform to build attacks from and keep Gloucester on the back foot. We will use a shortened line out, and launch our dynamic forwards, who are not in the lineout into midfield.


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Post by dammit_chris Tue Mar 27, 2012 6:20 pm

[color=blue] Northampton Saints
Manager – Dammit Chris

01. Matt Mullan 09. Mike Phillips
02. Rob Webber10. Matt Giteau (c)
03. Matt Stevens
04. Courtney Lawes11. Elliot Daly
05.Patricio Albacete 12. Weslie Fofana
06. Dan Lydiate13. Manu Tuilagi
07. Alexander Lapandry 14. Siti Siviatu
08. Sergio Parisse15. Leigh Halfpenny(k)

16. Chris Whitehead 17. Thomas Domingo 18. Carl Hayman 19. Joe Launchbury 20. Liam Messam 21. Sam Harrison 22. Danny Cipriani 23. Max Evans

Tactics

Overall - Saints are now on a good roll, scoring tries freely and playing with a lot of confidence. Again our game will be based around a pack that controls possession, using our big ball carriers to get us over the gainline and play a fast, high-tempo game where we look to put our backthree into scoring positions. We welcome back Lydiate, Parisse and Fofana into the starting lineup, and will look for Lydiate to stop the Bath backrow getting over the gainline. We will look to score tries, and frustrate Bath.

Attack - we will continue to play our structured game that evolves working through the phases, getting our big ball carriers on the ball and over the gainline (Albacete, Lawes, Parisse, Fofana, Tuilagi and Siviatu) - we will look to use our midfield a lot in the game and get them running at their opposite numbers, we see we have an advantage in the 10, 12, 13 channel and will look to get as much ball going through Giteau, Fofana and Tuilagi as possible - each offers a completely different attacking threat.

We will get runners going off Giteau, Fofana and Tuilagi - each is capable of making a linebreak at any time in the game and we hope to exploit any opportunities to get in behind the bath midfield.

We will not be afraid to attack from deep as the conditions are perfect for our backline and our pack will certainly hold its own. However, Phillips and Giteau will control the game, and ensure that we do not play ourselves into trouble.

Defence - the return of Lydiate makes a huge difference to our defensive play, he was the standout defender in this year's 6Nations and along with Lawes is tasked with stopping Lobbe and O'Brien from getting over the gainline and slowing down Bath ball at source. As normal we will play an aggressive defence, putting our opposition under pressure, using Phillips to get at du Preez and then having a rush defence on the 10-12-13 channel and try and make the most of the Bath 10's inexperience. We feel that if we can stop the Bath backrows getting over the gainline then we can win this game - with Lawes, Albacete, Lydiate and Parisse we certainly have the defensive players to do this.

We also want to make sure that we do not invite Bath to pressurise us in our own half and when we get the ball (espc. in our own 22) we will get Halfpenny to clear lines and get the ball into touch, as we do not want Beale to run into open space, although Fofana, Tuilagi and Halfpenny are all top class tacklers.

We have positioned Siviatu against North so he can test him both offensively and defensively - Siviatu has been in very good form, so will be a good battle between the two.

Set Piece - Again our front three are fresh, and we are able to bring on Domingo, Whitehead and Hayman in the second half to bolster our scrum and will use this to put pressure on Bath. We will use the scrum as an attacking weapon to launch Parisse or get Phillips running at the Bath no10.

Our lineout is boosted with the return of Parisse and we will look to focus on securing good quality ball from parisse, lawes and albacete. On Bath ball we will position Lydiate at the back, so he can stop any attacks from quick ball in what is a dangerous Bath backline.

Breakdown - we've made two changes from last week against Wasps in the backrow, bringing in Lydiate and Parisse to partner Lapandry - we will look to target the breakdown with Lydiate slowing down Bath ball and Lapandry and Parisse targeting turnovers. We are fortunate that Fofana and Tuilagi are also very adept at the breakdown - defensively we are very confident in this area of slowing down ball, but will certainly compete for turnovers when opportunities present themselves.

Key Points
* For the first time this season we are full of confidence, scoring 11 tries in 3 games, winning the LV Trophy and getting a try scoring BP against Wasps last week - we feel we have the defensive capabilities to prevent Bath's dangermen getting over the gainline and the attacking talent in our team to score tries away from home.
* Team is full of leaders and captains (Webber, Albacete, Lydiate, Parisse, Giteau etc) - we have built a team around the same structure of England circa 2000-2003 and see this as very important to win away from home.
* We have a solid pack, which will hold its own, but is also extremely mobile and the conditions are perfect for us - we can then turn the screw in the second half by bringing on three front row forwards who can pressurise Bath in the set piece.
* Halfpenny's boot is a three-point machine - any penalties and we will go for goal and build up the score, forcing Bath to play rugby and look for tries.
* We have our best 8, 9, 10, 12, 13 combination playing together and they will cause Bath a lot of problems.
* Bench has a lot of impact players - Launchbury, Messam, Cipriani and Evans can all change the outcome of a game.

Good luck ITFL.


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Post by 'Arry Spurs Tue Mar 27, 2012 6:22 pm

Bold statement you've made there Chris! Wink

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Post by Driver Tue Mar 27, 2012 7:50 pm

Northampton Saints
Manager – Dammit Chris

01. Matt Mullan 09. Mike Phillips
02. Rob Webber10. Matt Giteau (c)
03. Matt Stevens
04. Courtney Lawes11. Elliot Daly
05.Patricio Albacete 12. Weslie Fofana
06. Dan Lydiate13. Manu Tuilagi
07. Alexander Lapandry 14. Siti Siviatu
08. Sergio Parisse15. Leigh Halfpenny(k)

16. Chris Whitehead 17. Thomas Domingo 18. Carl Hayman 19. Joe Launchbury 20. Liam Messam 21. Sam Harrison 22. Danny Cipriani 23. Max Evans

Tactics

To be confirmed

That what you meant fella? lol
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Post by dammit_chris Tue Mar 27, 2012 11:01 pm

I preferred it in bold Smile

I don't even know how I did that!

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:11 pm

Leicester Tigers have named their side to play Worcester Warriors at Welford Road this week.

Tigers make six changes to the side that played London Irish last week.

They freshen up their pack with the welcome return of their Six Nations stars Dan Cole, Gethin Jenkins, Pascal Pape and Tom Croft, whilst Rob Miller replaces Topsy Ojo and Brian O'Driscoll comes in for Florian Fritz in the backs.


Leicester Tigers
Manager – LukeLovesLuka

01. Gethin Jenkins09. Dimitri Yachvili (k)
02. Sebastian Bruno10. Brock James
03. Dan Cole
04. Pascal Pape11. Isa Nacewa
05. James Horwill (c)    12. Billy Twelvetrees
06. Tom Croft13. Brian O'Driscoll
07. Jonathan Poff14. Cory Jane
08. Thomas Waldrom15. Rob Miller
16. Andrew Sheridan 17. Tom Youngs 18. Ben Franks 19. Simon Shaw 20. Samu Manoa 21. Chris Cusiter 22. Dave Walder 23. Topsy Ojo

Tactics

We will play a game built around running rugby with an attacking back line, and the strength in our set piece.

- Attack the scrum as a weapon - and call when we can. Scrum specialist Bruno selected alongside two in-form props to look to really get the shove on against Mayhew and Bugden.

- Strong lineout with Croft, Pape and Horwill as our main jumpers rotating the target. We will relentlessly target Mayhew's throws.

- Massive line-breakers right throughout the side that will look to tire down Worcester's defence.
The likes of Waldrom and Horwill used off the shoulder crashing through the Worcester defence.

- Poff is the man charged with reaching the breakdown first and look to turnover possession. We will always look to attack quickly off turnover ball.

- In general attacking play, we will play off 9 with Yachvili our general pulling the strings.

- Look to play attacking running rugby in the backs, getting the our 11-15 on the ball as much as possible. Croft to look to get into space and join our backs to cause trouble out wide.

- Box kicks from Yachili and up and unders from James to give Garvey and Morgan problems in the air.
Lightning back three to really get the chase on.

- Our back three are encouraged to do what they do best - counter attacking and running the ball back. Selected 3 players versed in playing full back, as we expect Steyn to kick all day and will be ready to counter his kicks.

- Yachvili to kick penalites. We won't always go for the points if in good position and lineout working well.

- Use our powerful bench to see the game out in the last 20 minutes.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:48 pm

We welcome Sale Sharks to fortress Kingston Park for what should be a great match up. Falcons freshen up the pack bringing in Franks, Thorn, Parling, Robshaw & Faletau. Pooly:

"Games against Sale are always crackers so we've brought back some big players in the pack to give us a good platform to play off. Owen Franks comes in to compliment a strong front row that will give us plenty of energy in the set piece & around the park. We welcome back Geoff Parling into the team after some belting games for England over the last few weeks and he resumes his partnership with big Brad Thorn in the engine room.

Toby Faletau comes in at BS, he's the modern day backrower and slots in easily across 6,7,8. I thought he was outstanding at OS for Wales and it shows what a good skill set he has by being able to move across with such ease.

It's great to have Chris Robshaw back, he was superb in the 6N and put in a huge amount of work in and around the contact area. He had a good week off last week but is itching to get back into it. He loves the dirty work in and around the fringes and allows the other guys to thrive."

Newcastle Falcons
Manager – Sgt Pooly

01. Fabien Barcella09. Ben Youngs
02. William Servat10. Toby Flood
03. Owen Franks
04. Brad Thorn11. Miles Benjamin
05. Geoff Parling12. James O’Connor
06. Toby Faletau13. Jaques Fourie
07. Chris Robshaw14. Tommy Bowe
08. Kieran Read(c)15. Ben Smith

16.Tom Lindsay 17. Paul Doran-Jones 18. Alex Waller 19. Paul O’Connell 20.Juan Smith 21. Jonny Arr 22.Nick Evans 23. Ben Williams

Tactics

General – High intensity, bully the opposition front 5 and look to unleash backline with pace & power. Keep hold of the ball and go through the phases with huge carrying options. Look to keep ball in hand and starve opposition.

Scrum – look to target opposition and get nudge on if weakness seen. Keep ball in and look for drive to get pen.

Lineout – quick ball off the top using Parling as primary caller, also look to use Read at the tail and McCaw, Thorn to offer front ball. Target opposition ball and contest outside of 22 especially.

Breakdown – Look to ruck past the ball and gain upperhand with strong front 5. Look to control and dominate contact area.

Defence – Look to use the Blitz and get in the face of Cruden early on and force him off his game.

Backline – Look to play the fringes with Youngs sniping around .Flood to play flat and swap first receiver with JOC. Look to tuse Fourie to get over gainline and also as decoy with Bowe coming in at angles. Look to get JOC in space whenever possible.

Points:

Home form – we are unbeaten at home in over 18mnths and in great form
Momentum – Strong wins recently and back to the top of the table
Fresh pack – rested players come in to give us added energy


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Post by Guest Thu Mar 29, 2012 9:08 am

[quote=""] Gloucester
Manager – Mat

01. Guthro Steenkamp 09. Will Genia
02. Joe Grey10.Johan Goosen
03. Nicola Mas
04. Richie Grey11. Charlie Sharples
05.George Robson 12. Berrick Barnes
06. Stephen Ferris13. Richard Kahui
07. Andy Saull 14. Hosea Gear
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15. Johnny May

16. Nick Wood17. Darren dawiduik 18. Julian White 19. Bakkies Botha 20. Schalk Burger 21. Connor Murray 22. Ryan Lamb 23. JSD


Glaws travel to adams park as the form side in the prem with lots of players who have been rotated through out the year feeling fresh.

The sun is out and we are hear to play some high intensity direct rugby.

Pack

We have gone for a hard scrummaging athletic pack to get around the park and carry the ball in to the heart of the wasps team.

Scrum

Despite the good weather leading to less scrums and slightly devaluing it glos will be targetting the scrum to get a nudge on our own ball to release the back row and to try and disrupt the wasps put in and make them have poor ball.

lineout- We see this as a massive advantage for us. We have 5 lineout options and in Robson Gray and Hari we will look to use the lineout as a great way of attacking off the back. We will be looking to drive the ball and suck them in before launching runners such as ferris and Hari off the back or to go wide with their back row sucked in.

Defensively we will use hari robson and Gray to really pressure the wasps throw and starve them of attacking ball. With Myler at ten they will look to kick a lot and we are hoping that our obvious lineout strength will make them kick in field meaning may, sharples and Gear can counter attack at will. TPN has really struggled with his darts all season so we think our lineout and his throwing will make us own the lineout battle

general forward play

We will be looking to use the sheer amount of carriers in our pack to get us over the gain line and win the physical battle against wasps. With so many talented dynamic carriers we will be looking to use the offload when on. Gray, hari and Ferris are particularly sublime with this and it will help to put us in behind the wasps defence where we will look to get quick ball to release our backs.

Backs.

We will be looking to play off quick ball to try and score tries and enjoy the weather. Genias job will be to get the ball to goosen and let him decide. Goosen is in great form kicking huge goals and launching attack after attack in an excellent attacking side the cheetahs.

In our own 22 he will be looking to clear the ball to touch so we can attack their lineout. He will also try and isolate wade against Gear for the cross field kick and indeed will test out Both wasps wings with the high ball.

Anywhere outside our ten metre line with quick ball Goosen will be looking to attack. berrick barnes inside him offers stability and a second kicking option and creative role. We will be looking to commit roberts in his unfamiliar 13 role and then go wide creating mismatches.

Gear who is in great form will be looking to go one on one against wade.

We will employ an in yourt face defence to try and force wasps to kick. If its in touch we fancy the lineout but if its in field MAy, Sharples and Gear will run it back with interest looking to isolate forwards.

As the game breaks up and the hotter conditions take their toll we will be looking to use quick throw ins and really up the tempo.

We intend to use our bench as required but having a bench that contains names such as Bakkies, Burger, JSD, Murray etc is a huge plus and an advantage we hope can help us secure the BP win.

We are aiming to get in the top 2 so are targetting the BP win.

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Post by CJB Thu Mar 29, 2012 7:34 pm

Chris which team of yours is correct

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Post by dammit_chris Thu Mar 29, 2012 7:46 pm

how do you mean mate?

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Post by CJB Thu Mar 29, 2012 7:47 pm

oh I see they are the same. Erm yer ignore me Very Happy

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Post by dammit_chris Fri Mar 30, 2012 12:33 pm

Only managed to skim over tactics today, as finishing production on a film, so bit snowed under!

Newcastle 24 - 20 Sale
Great pack, really strong and to challenge Newcastle away you've got to really be able to get them upfront. Conditions well suited to both teams in the backlines, but power of Newcastle's pack is decisive (SJE didnt see your tactics, apologies if I missed them on main board).

Exeter 31- 32 Irish
Really, really narrow win for Irish here - Driver has put out a really strong team, but think Nick has one of the strongest backlines in the game snd in such wonderful weather they are going to score tries. In saying that I think Exeter have enough dangermen to get 4 tries, perfect weather and both teams to score a lot of tries.

Tigers 29 - 25 Worcester
Tigers just going to be too strong for Worcester at home, think they have really good attacking options all over the pitch, whilst Worcester might struggle to get more attacks going with their no10, who is a great kicker, but when the conditions allow for running rugby it makes it hard for them to play catch up rugby.

Sarries 25 - 25 Quins
Sorry Pete, but I seem to say this each week, think you have an amazing, amazing team and your pack is one of the best around in terms of balance, power etc and I think your tactics are always near to being spot on, I just think you need to bring some real game changers into your backthree, as I think there is a lack of a true world class player there - if you have someone there then I'd be giving you the win instead of a draw. Think Stevens backline are really well suited to the conditions and will score some tries out wide.

Wasps 33 - 34 Gloucester
Really hard fought away win for Gloucester against Arry, the top 4 is certainly getting very competitive and Mat's pack is just brutal up front - do like his no10, but at same time I think his lack of experience/first team play for Gloucester could slow down some of their attacks and they wont be as much of a threat initially as compared to say Carter playing at no10. With all the attackers on display though this has got a high scoring feel all over it! Both teams to get 4 tries!

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Fri Mar 30, 2012 12:59 pm

Didnt get tactics up Chris couldnt get on last night

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri Mar 30, 2012 1:20 pm

Newcastle 27 - 21 Sale

A good contest here but I prefer Newcastle in this one. This is a strong Newcastle side which is very impressive on paper. Packs are quite even as I am not convinced of Faletau at 6 at all and Barcella and Servat aren't in the best form but I don't think Sale have the pack to really make Newcastle pay and I think Newcastle will get the better of the set piece. It's one a piece at half back but I really like the Newcastle centres. It's a nice balance and it works very well. Back 3's are pretty even in my eyes. Lack of tactics goes against Sale.

Exeter 23 - 25 London Irish

Packs are a interesting battle. I think the scrums will be fairly even as will the lineouts. I prefer the Irish pack in the loose but I like the Exeter pack in the tight and think they will compete well. Half backs are just in Irish's favour, Macleod's brilliant form for Sale this season is vital and inparticular his kicking accuracy. The Exeter 10/12 will cause problems for the Irish wingers who I don't consider to be great at dealing with kicks through which Driver has highlighted in tactics. However I don't think Exeter's side are suited for the running game in the loose as well as Irish which prevents them getting the home win and Irish come away with a very good win.

Leicester 29 - 27 Worcester

Leicester strong at home as ever with a big pack and a backline set out to play in a clear way. The forwards battle will be a great one, this is as gooder Worcester pack as I've seen as I think they will do well at the set piece and there backrow is great (if you have Higginbotton in the back row it would be unreal!). Half backs go to Worcester as I think the combo will be ideal for a game at Welford road. I see the leicester outside backs as stronger though and this will make a difference.

Bath 32 - 34 Northampton

I consider the packs to be strong and weak in the same areas. Both front rows could be better but the back 5 of the pack is very decent. The form of Parisse and Lydiate is massively in favour of Saints and Bath are unlucky with the form of some of there big players like Deacon, SOB and JMF. Half backs also go to Saints marginally as do the centres, where Fofana and Tuilagi is a frightening pair in better form than there opponents. Backs 3's are more even with the slight advantage to Bath. In the end the form players for Saints get them a brilliant away win.

Wasps 29 - 34 Gloucester

The pack battle goes to Gloucester with a powerful and what I consider to be a well ballanced pack of forwards. Wasps as always will be aggressive and tough to beat but they won't be able to match Gloucester for the full 80 upfront, particularly when the benches come into play. The backlines are a little closer and I think that it will be tries galore outwide with some brilliant attacking players out wide. High scoring game and a very good contest.

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Post by stnick88 Fri Mar 30, 2012 4:49 pm

Falcons v Sale
- Not sold on Faletau at 6 but other than that a strong home pack that will get on the front foot and give Youngs/Flood good service. Falcons backline is full of class that will be too strong for Sale.
30-24

Tigers v Warriors
- Tigers look stronger upfront this week with Jenkins and Cole back and an in form Pape. A good backline that will improve when BOD gets form back. Warriors pack is strong, couple of unproven players slightly hinders it though. Good backline that will trouble Tigers. Close game but at home and with an edge in the pack Tigers take it.
26-23

Saracens v Quins
- Nice settled Sarries pack. Think Afoa can get to Lahiff at scrum time but Max Max is a beast in the loose. Agree with Chris that Sarries back 3 lacks that World class spark but a great centre combo and good half backs see them gain good control. Flutey at 12 hinders Quins who have a top backline. Great backrow and pack in general but not enough to win away.
26-25

Bath v Saints
- Close pack battle, perhaps a slight edge to Saints. Anscombe is a good prospect but think Giteau could get one over here. Both backlines are awesome and love both centre combos. Too tough to call sorry.
24-24

Wasps v Glos
- Glos on fire at the moment and hard to stop. Wasps have a gritty pack but like the effectiveness of Glos in the loose. Allows their backs to get going. Good backlines but little bit more for the away side.
25-28


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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri Mar 30, 2012 4:52 pm

Missed off the score on our game Nick

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Fri Mar 30, 2012 5:27 pm

Chiefs 19-24 Irish
Tigers 29-22 Warriors
Sarries 19-18 Quins
Bath 19-21 Saints
Wasps 18-23 Glaws

Sorry guys no time for detailed predos this week

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Post by Guest Fri Mar 30, 2012 10:55 pm

Leicester 25-22 Worcester

How improved are Worcester. Prop and itfl have done great things with their teams.

Warriors backrow excellent and very competitive Morgan and jones in form.

Leicester backrow also in form but nowhere near as physical.

Leicester take the pack but Worcester competitive.

Where this game is close is for me Worcester tactics more suited to game.

Worcester win half backs easily as they are playing right game plan.

Yachvilli great player James ok but they will not allow open rugby as luke wants. It will be slow which does not suit Leicester as they will produce good ball.

Peel and Steyn will play it right.
Tigers better backs but not by much as nacewa no wing for me.

Bod back to form
Will help.

Leicester bench has great carrying options although backs bench maybe to Worcester.

Easy win for Leicester but made hard due to half backs and Worcester set up and tactics.

Gorgidze great inpact sub

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Post by prop_lyd Fri Mar 30, 2012 11:41 pm

Guys, as I thought I'm struggling being home and getting on, if I can I'll get something in tomorrow morning.
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Post by Guest Fri Mar 30, 2012 11:48 pm

Can we give prop chance to predo pete ??? It can happen and he has made it clear why he can't get on ??


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Post by Ozzy3213 Sat Mar 31, 2012 9:07 am

Falcons 24 Sharks 21
Chiefs 23 Irish 24
Tigers 22 Warriors 20
Bath 23 Saints 24
Wasps 21 Gloucester 26
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Post by Guest Sat Mar 31, 2012 9:09 am

Falcons 25-21 Sale. Few f

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Post by Guest Sat Mar 31, 2012 9:12 am

Falcons 25-21 Sale. Few slight fOrm issues for falcons in the front 5 and few other spots but still too powerful there and will win enough ball to cruise.
Would have started awj in this game if me. Guy is in form

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Post by 'Arry Spurs Sat Mar 31, 2012 9:49 am

Falcons 23 - 20 Sale
Exeter 20 - 19 Irish
Tigers 24 - 21 Warriors
Bath 29 - 32 Northampton Saints
Sarries 20 - 20 Quins

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Post by Guest Sat Mar 31, 2012 9:57 am

Exeter22-23 Irish tight game. Can see Irish getting on top and more equipped for conditions. Despite in Being running rugby and scrums less important exeters front row will get crucified. Exeter bench forwards bring them back in to it

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Post by Guest Sat Mar 31, 2012 9:59 am

Game of the round

Sarries 22-21 quins very even. Agree re Petes back 3. Quins centre form and home advantage win this. Quins backrow great but sarries a real hard working unit. Had a draw but home advantage does iy

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Post by Guest Sat Mar 31, 2012 10:03 am

Bath 23-24saints good game saints have upper hand in front row and slight edge half backs. However home advantage almost squeaks bath a draw. Bath really affected by quality of their English players

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Post by Driver Sat Mar 31, 2012 10:04 am

Falcons 22 Sale 18
Tigers 28 Warriors 21
Bath 27 Northamton 27
Saracens 23 Quins 20
Wasps 20 Gloucester 24
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Post by LukeLovesLuka Sat Mar 31, 2012 10:04 am

Newcastle 26 - 20 Sale
Stronger pack throughout for the home side. Great back row battle that Newcastle edge. Edge to the home side in the HB's, and stronger in the backs. Newcastle stronger overall and at home. 


Exeter 22 - 22 Irish 
I like chiefs' front five and think its a very even battle. Slight edge to Irish in the back rows and HB's. Irish so strong in the centres but exeter a strong pair. Home advantage keeps Exeter in this game. 


Saracens 24 - 22 Harlequins
Good front row contest that Sarries edge with some serious form. Find the back 5's tough to call actually - both looking strong. HB's are tight, maybe form to quins, but Sarries strong in the centres. Back three to quins. Sarries have enough at home. 


Bath 25 - 25 Saints
Not a lot in either front five. Can't see much give either way. Serious back row contest worth entry fee alone. Slight edge to saints in the HB's and the centres but bath take the back three. Can't split these two. 


Wasps 23 - 25 Gloucester
Two strong front fives that will be a big battle. Some great form in grey and Mafi. Edge to away side in the back row. Prefer Glouester HB's but centres really close. Gloucester take back three. Jut enough for a strong away win here. 

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Mar 31, 2012 10:24 am

Exeter 23-23 Irish

Good pack battle which I can't see either dominating in the conditions. Front rows pretty even but shades to Exeter in the engine room and back to Irish in the backrow. Irish have a little more spark in the backs especially the centres but see Exeter containing a seeing out a draw.

Leicester 27-24 Worcester

Strong Worcester team but Tigers are a real force at home and have a pack to shade key battles. Strongest Warriors backline ive seen put out but not enough to stop Leicester winning.

Saracens 20-20 Harlequins

Another very tight game. Great pack battle I think Quins just shade. Scrum is tight but in the conditions not as key and both front 5's have strong mobility. Think Quins shade backrow though and can see them getting a little better ball. A little form issue in both backlines but nothing major. Quins little more in halfbacks but Sarries strong in the centres. Tough call this, if Quins were stronger in midfield they'd have snuck a win but similar with Sarries who are a lacking quality in the back 3 to really hurt Quins. 2 great sides but Quins just edge but Sarries strong at home.

Bath 24-24 Saints

Another cracker that I'm struggling to call. Kubs the dominant TH in the front row battles but can't see too much scrummaging. Think Bath edge engine room but little more for Saints in backrow. Saints halfbacks better and more fizz, great centre battle and back 3 contest. So close.

Wasps 23-25 Gloucester

Another close one I'm struggling with. Belting pack battle. See Gloucester using lineout to good effect with strong jumping options. Engine room lacks grunt but theyll get away with it just here. Wasps have recruited well and make fist of it especially in backrow & centres. Goosen good option as great boot. Gloucester sneak through and continue charge.

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Post by CJB Sat Mar 31, 2012 10:28 am

Newcastle 29-20 Sale
Prefer Newcastle all round and lack of tactics hinders Sale.

Exeter 24-27 Irish
Think Irish have the backs, especially the halbacks, to get a good win here in sunny conditions.

Tigers 25-21 Warriors
At home tigers will just be too much for Worcester.

Sarries 20-22 Quins
Game of the weekend for me. Think Quins have on form players with great subs.

Wasps 16-20 Gloucester
Think Glaws have a team that can secure good ball and one that can punish wasps using the good ball.

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Post by prop_lyd Sat Mar 31, 2012 10:45 am

Newcastle 30-24 Sale

Exeter 15-18 Irish

Sarries 21-21 Quins

Wasps 18-25 Gloucester

Bath 20-22Saints

Literally just had to skim read it sorry, if people want explanations just p.m me.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat Mar 31, 2012 10:52 am

Reckon I've gotten a LBP out of those Predos which I'm delighted with. Looks to have been a good week for Irish and Leicester in play off/European chase.

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Post by dammit_chris Sat Mar 31, 2012 11:31 am

Why couldnt i have put this run of form together at the start of the season!!!

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