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Holyfield v Cooper - Would Cooper have been the worst Heavyweight champ of alltime?

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:52 pm

Up to that point!!

Big Holyfield fan but I always thought he got a little lucky when he was on the ropes..very contentious and one whack away from maybe losing the crown...certainly he was completely stunned and the referee made a controversial decision!!

Cooper had lost to Moorer..Truth Williams....to name but a few although he'd also defeated some less endowed adversaries too it has to be said!!

In fairness though Holy gave Cooper a real battering which brings me to my point....It's a fair case to say Holy lucked out a little and for me it's a fair question to ask If .....had he not done so.........

Would Cooper have been the Worst heavyweight Champion of alltime??? up---to----that---point!!

Or could he stand aside Primo...Harty and the like?????????

For me the WORST of alltime had he finished the job.................

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Post by hazharrison Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:22 pm

He'd certainly rank alongside the aforementioned Hart as well as Leon Spinks and Shannon Briggs (who was the man who beat the man, despite the lack of an alphabet belt when outpointing Big George).

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:35 pm

Good to see you Haz......Big George was after Holy though......

Sad to see your Man is still fighting for a living!!!

Tragic..

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Post by hazharrison Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:38 pm

Hey mate. Linear line went:

Tyson
Douglas
Holyfield
Bowe
Holyfield
Moorer
Foreman
Briggs
Lewis

Holyfield's off my Xmas card list since the "Evan Fields" fiasco. Throws a shadow over everything he accomplished (for me, at least).

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:44 pm

Cooper is in my top ten ATG heavies.

He would have made a great champ as he was fearless and had the greatest uppercut and left hook in boxing.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:50 pm

"Would Cooper have been the Worst heavyweight champ up to that point???"

But I take what you are saying Mate...hope you're okay.. we could do with you back on these boards...

Not sure If you are joking ONETWO........

which sayeth volumes!!Cool

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:56 pm

I meant to say he is in my top ten exciting heavies.

Cooper for his entertainment levels would have been a great champ. The slug fest with Moorer was one of the best fights of the 90's, what he did to that Italian guy with the uppercut. He could attack but was rubbish with defence really good pro who beat Holy.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:11 pm

You're forgiven my Roxbury-brother..

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Post by EdWoodjr Wed Mar 28, 2012 6:11 pm

Cooper's slugfest with Mercer was brutal and memorable. Sad to say, Cooper's still looking for one last payday.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Wed Mar 28, 2012 6:25 pm

Should be glad he wasn't taxed over here old Bert or he'd be in an even worse position..

50% or 45% for higher incomes.....and my brothers back home are moaning paying the tax they are.........

Bert liked his sherbet.....unfortunately and it is tragic...

To take so much and have so little return....

It's a shame some pension plan can't be implemented..

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Post by rapidringsroad Thu Mar 29, 2012 9:52 pm

Agree with you there Truss, Holyfield was given a standing 8 count in that fight when the rules didn't allow for one. Though he did come to his senses later in the fight and stop Cooper he was a bit lucky that Mills Lane saved him.

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