Froch vs Bute
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Froch vs Bute
Good morning Ladies and Gents,
Just thought id let you know that my tickets have arrived for fight night so im super excited.
Just a few things really...........Has anyone been to the FM Arena before, and if so, what should i expect?
Also, how do we feel the fight will pan out?
Im going for a Froch points win but it will no doubt be a slug fest!!
D2
Just thought id let you know that my tickets have arrived for fight night so im super excited.
Just a few things really...........Has anyone been to the FM Arena before, and if so, what should i expect?
Also, how do we feel the fight will pan out?
Im going for a Froch points win but it will no doubt be a slug fest!!
D2
d260005p- Posts : 674
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Re: Froch vs Bute
I doubt it will be a slug fest if Bute has his way and manages to fight his fight. Butes the superior boxer by a fair bit in my view and will want to keep things at range and not get ito a brawl which would suit Froch. Said it before but better movement, footwork, shot selection and boxing brain all point to a Bute points win for me. Throw in that he hits harder imo aswell and its a tall order for Froch.
I think he's had his Andrade 1 moment and will be less likely to get sloppy and be caught cold or over run in this fight.
I think he's had his Andrade 1 moment and will be less likely to get sloppy and be caught cold or over run in this fight.
paperbag_puncher- Posts : 2516
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Re: Froch vs Bute
Well as you might expect I've been the the Capital FM arena plenty of times and I'm looking forward t being there again - a Froch fight there always guarantees a real bearpit atmosphere. A big-ish stadium rather than a massive one, so in general you should get a good enough view, and the monitors are excellent if that's your preferred option.
Disgustingly over-priced for food, drink etc, but then again most venues like this are.
As for the fight, I think it will be a good one even if Bute decides to box rather than brawl. Haven't quite seen enough in his game to convince me that he can evade Froch for a full twelve, so I expect some very, very lively exchanges from the mid rounds onward (Froch, annoyingly, often seems to give an opponent a two round start). My head says Bute, the heart naturally Froch.
Disgustingly over-priced for food, drink etc, but then again most venues like this are.
As for the fight, I think it will be a good one even if Bute decides to box rather than brawl. Haven't quite seen enough in his game to convince me that he can evade Froch for a full twelve, so I expect some very, very lively exchanges from the mid rounds onward (Froch, annoyingly, often seems to give an opponent a two round start). My head says Bute, the heart naturally Froch.
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Re: Froch vs Bute
Either or, its going to be a great fight. I have attended the MEN a few time and the atmosphere is fantastic, think its a bit bigger than the FM.
Does anyone know the undercards for the night?
Does anyone know the undercards for the night?
d260005p- Posts : 674
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Re: Froch vs Bute
Not sure how good Bute is,but for me this is going to be his biggest test,we know Froch can go with the big boys of the division.
Nico the gman- Posts : 1753
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Re: Froch vs Bute
As an outside bet I think Froch could get stopped in this one. Bute is faster, the better boxer and can bang. I know it's an outside chance but, only saying.
All things considered though, it’s a tough one to call. I’d say the most likely outcome is a Bute points win (thinking 116-112 or 117-111 area) but a knockout wither way is not out of the question. Bute’s been down before and Froch, despite his chin, is definitely there for the tagging.
Really REALLY looking forward to it.
All things considered though, it’s a tough one to call. I’d say the most likely outcome is a Bute points win (thinking 116-112 or 117-111 area) but a knockout wither way is not out of the question. Bute’s been down before and Froch, despite his chin, is definitely there for the tagging.
Really REALLY looking forward to it.
Qoxiivi- Posts : 223
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Re: Froch vs Bute
Bute couldn't stop Johnson tho,
Seanusarrilius- Moderator
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Seanusarrilius wrote:Bute couldn't stop Johnson tho,
66 others have failed. Not exactly a slight to say someone couldn't stop Johnson. He's as tough and durable as they come.
paperbag_puncher- Posts : 2516
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Re: Froch vs Bute
Think he has only been tkoed once - although he wsnt out on his feet. Hopkins was beating the Poopie out of him. Tough man.
Re: Froch vs Bute
I reckon it will be Bute via wide UD or late retirement
Unbeatable Georgey Groves- Posts : 282
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Re: Froch vs Bute
Bute UD or Froch SD for me.
I was quite impressed with Bute v Johnson (especially in contrast to Froch) and think he might be just that bit too quick and clean for Carl. Would love to see Froch start disciplined and then increase in the pressure exponentially in the later rounds but am nervous it won't happen.
Great work on the seats tho, give us a field report after!
I was quite impressed with Bute v Johnson (especially in contrast to Froch) and think he might be just that bit too quick and clean for Carl. Would love to see Froch start disciplined and then increase in the pressure exponentially in the later rounds but am nervous it won't happen.
Great work on the seats tho, give us a field report after!
TopHat24/7- Posts : 17008
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Re: Froch vs Bute
Froch's problem is he's not that good against speed, Dirrell, Ward and Kessler gave him nightmares, Bute has better speed, better technique, better power.....actaully Bute is just better than Froch.
Bute UD
Bute UD
Super D Boon- Posts : 2078
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Re: Froch vs Bute
Big problem I have with Froch is he gives a lot of rounds away early on and he can't afford to be chasing the fight to make the deficit up.
Reminds me a lot like Howard Eastman in that respect a bit lazy at times.
Reminds me a lot like Howard Eastman in that respect a bit lazy at times.
Nico the gman- Posts : 1753
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Re: Froch vs Bute
Lets be realistic, Bute is no Andre Ward, he hasn't got the ability to control Froch for 12 rounds even then Ward struggled at times especially the last few rounds, so to say Bute is a far superior boxer seems very wide of the mark. Have yet to see him produce a performance as good as Frochs against a dangerous fighter such as Abraham, he has the speed advantage but aside from that don't think he's that much better in any area. Froch UD.
Imperial Ghosty- Posts : 10156
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Re: Froch vs Bute
Bute is definitely no Andre Ward. On saying that he is no Carl Froch either. Bute did a great job on Glen Johnson. Better than Frochs. On saying that I can still see it being a close fight with hopefully Bute getting the UD
Steffan- Posts : 7856
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Imperial Ghosty wrote:Lets be realistic, Bute is no Andre Ward, he hasn't got the ability to control Froch for 12 rounds even then Ward struggled at times especially the last few rounds, so to say Bute is a far superior boxer seems very wide of the mark. Have yet to see him produce a performance as good as Frochs against a dangerous fighter such as Abraham, he has the speed advantage but aside from that don't think he's that much better in any area. Froch UD.
If you watch him he's a far more talented boxer than Froch. He definitely has better footwork and movement than Froch and actually tries to evade punches. Froch might be tougher and stronger but hes a step below Bute skills wise. Skills don't always win out but think they will in this case. Is this the same dangerous Arthur Abraham who lost 3 of his fights in the super 6? He's shown nothing at supper middle to suggest he's a "dangerous fighter"
paperbag_puncher- Posts : 2516
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Re: Froch vs Bute
Didn't Abraham retire both the guy's he'd fought before Froch dominated him?
John Bloody Wayne- Posts : 4460
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John Bloody Wayne wrote:Didn't Abraham retire both the guy's he'd fought before Froch dominated him?
Ha I suppose you're semi right really but not quite. Jermaine Taylor had been Ko'd by both Pavlik and Froch before fighting Abraham. He was just another KO waiting to happen. You cant give Abraham any credit for hitting Dirrell while he was defensless on the ground and putting him out for well over a year? Dirrell has fought since and Taylor is making a comeback so he didn't retire either.
paperbag_puncher- Posts : 2516
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True, the KO punch was illegal, but I've seen illegal punches before. Not sure I've ever seen one put a top operator off boxing for so long before that one though.
His abilities - or lack of abilities - have been exposed against the talent of the super middleweights, but a guy with that natural power in any of the 12 rounds is always dangerous.
His abilities - or lack of abilities - have been exposed against the talent of the super middleweights, but a guy with that natural power in any of the 12 rounds is always dangerous.
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Re: Froch vs Bute
I'd go for Bute via UD. He is quicker and more technically sound than Froch and a very dangerous body puncher. I think there is a chance that Froch might be stopped in this one however.
Incrediblexman- Posts : 105
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Re: Froch vs Bute
I give Froch a very good chance at winning, so does our good friend Andre Dirrell.
There are a few factors that will decide the outcome, one of the most important apart from boxing skills it the fact Bute is fighting away from home and in a hostile environment for the first time. How will he react when the fight gets tough. As ghosty rightly pointed out, he is no Andre Ward, Froch is a world class fighter and he will show it in this fight. I don't think Bute has ever fought anyone like Froch before.
There are a few factors that will decide the outcome, one of the most important apart from boxing skills it the fact Bute is fighting away from home and in a hostile environment for the first time. How will he react when the fight gets tough. As ghosty rightly pointed out, he is no Andre Ward, Froch is a world class fighter and he will show it in this fight. I don't think Bute has ever fought anyone like Froch before.
BoxingFan88- Posts : 3759
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Re: Froch vs Bute
I agreewith boxingfan88. I am not ignoring all the factors mentioned in Butes favour, but Froch can do this.
Seanusarrilius- Moderator
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Re: Froch vs Bute
I still think Bute is somewhat of an unknown at the highest level, you know what you are going to get from Froch as he's been there so many times already.
Imperial Ghosty- Posts : 10156
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Re: Froch vs Bute
Might be me hoping the best, I picked Ward to beat Froch, but I don't think Bute will.
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