Welsh Regions Signings/Departures/Rumours so far (A King and Lion heading to the Scarlets?)

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Cardiff Blues

In

Jason Tovey (Newport Gwent Dragons)- Confirmed
Lou Reed (Scarlets) -Confirmed
Robin Copeland (Rotherham Titans)- Confirmed
Benoit Bourrust (Perpignan)- Confirmed
Campese Ma'afu (West Habour)-Confirmed
Andy Kyriacou (Ulster) -Confirmed
Phil Davies DOR (Worcester)- Confirmed
Gerwyn Price (Cross Keys) - Rumour
Rob Lewis (London Welsh)-confirmed





Out

Gethin Jenkins (Toulon) -Confirmed
Martyn Williams -Retiring - Confirmed
Rhys Thomas (Wasps)- Confirmed
Dan Parks (Connacht) Confirmed
Casey Laulala (Munster)- Confirmed
Deiniol Jones -Retiring -Confirmed
Paul Tito- Released - confirmed
Manna Molitika -Retiring- Confirmed
Ben Blair (Agen)- Confirmed
John Yapp (Edinburgh) Confirmed
Richie Rees (Edinburgh)-Confirmed
Ryan Tyrell (Melbourne Rebels)-Confirmed
Xavier Rush (Retiring/Defence Coach) - Confirmed


Scarlet's

In


Lewis Rawlins (Cross Keys) - Confirmed
Barry Davies ( Ospreys) - Rumour
Jason Eaton ( Hurricanes)- Rumour
Adam Byrnes ( Melbourne Rebels) -Rumour
Manuel Carizza (Biarittz)- Rumour
Kristian Phillips (Ospreys) - Confirmed
Davit Zirakashvili (Clermont Auvergne)- Rumour
Danny Wilson (Newport Dragons-forwards coach)- Confirmed
Daniel Carpo (RC Timisoara, Romania) - Rumour
Joe Tuineau (Montpellier) -Rumour
Cambell Johnstoe (Biarritz)- Rumour
George Earle ( Cheetahs) - Confirmed
Simon Easterby (New DOR) - Confirmed
Richard Kelly (Ospreys) - Confirmed
Jonathan Thomas (Ospreys) - Rumour
Gavin Henson (Unattached) - Rumour
Tomas Vallejos Cinalli (Harlequins) - Confirmed
Pat ciliers (Lions) - Rumour
Gareth Owen (Ospreys) - Confirmed

Out

Ben Morgan (Gloucester)- Confirmed
Steven Jones (Wasps)-Confirmed
Dominic Day (Bath) Confirmed
Lou Reed (Cardiff Blues) -Confirmed
Dan Evans ( Dragons) - confirmed
Rhys Thomas Retiring- Confirmed
Iestyn Thomas (Retiring/Dragons forwards coach) - Confirmed
Simon Gardiner- (Rotherham Titan) - Confirmed
Sean Lamont (Glasgow Warriors) -Confirmed
Damien Welch (Exeter Chiefs)- Confirmed
Vernon Cooper (Forwards Coach) - Confirmed
Garin Jenkins (scrummaging Coach) - Confirmed
Nigel Davies (Gloucester -DOR) - Confirmed
Andy Fenby (Newcastle) - Rumour (signed new contract)
Matt Gibert - (Mogliano,Italy) - Confirmed
Liam Davies - Released - Confirmed
Mark Jones (Gloucester - Skills Coach)- Rumour


Newport Gwent Dragons

In

Dan Evan (Scarlets) -Confirmed
Peter Grant (stormers) - Rumour
Tom Prydie (Ospreys)- Confirmed
Iestyn Thomas (forwards coach/scarlets) - Confirmed
Ian Nimmo (Cornish Pirates) -Confirmed
Tim Ryan (Cavalieri Prato) - Confirmed
Rhys Downes (Pontypridd) - Confirmed
Josh Tyler (UWIC) - Confirmed
Stewart Maguire (Connacht) - Rumour
Hywel Stoddart (Newport RFC) - Confirmed

Out

Jason Tovey ( Cardiff Blues)-Confirmed
Aled Brew (Biarritz)- Confirmed
Tom Willis (Retired)- Confirmed
Ben Castle (Retired)- Confirmed
Martyn Thomas (Gloucester) -confirmed
Luke Chateris (Perpignan) -Confirmed
Hugh Gustafson- Released- Not confirmed
Rhys Buckley- Released- Confirmed
Nigel Hall- Retired- Confirmed
Hugo Ellis- Released- Confirmed
James Leadbeater- Released- Confirmed
Mathew Jones (Bristol) -Confirmed
Tom Riley- (Cornish Pirates)- Confirmed
Lloyd Burns- Retired- Confirmed
Danny Wilson (Scarlets) - Confirmed
Gavin Thomas- Retired - Confirmed
Scott Morgan -Released - Confirmed
Trystan Davies (Carmarthen Quins) - Confirmed


Ospreys

In

Steve Tandy (Bridgend RFC)
Sam Lewis (Swansea RFC)
Sam Davies (Swansea RFC)
Shaun Connor ( Dragons - Ospreys Academy Coach)
Jonathan Spratt ( London Irish) - Confirmed


Out

Tommy Bowe (Ulster)- Confirmed
Sean Holley (Released)
Scott Johnson (SRFU)
James Goode (Newcastle Falcons)-Confirmed
Shane Williams (Mitsubishi Dynoboars )-Confimed
Huw Bennett (Lyon) -Confirmed
Nikki Walker (Worcester Warriors) -Confirmed
Dan Bigger (Racing Metro) -Rumour
Cai Griffiths (London Irish) -Confirmed
Barry Davies released - Confirmed
Chauncey O'Toole- Releases - Confirmed
Sonny Parker- (London Welsh) -Confirmed
Mefin Davies- Retiring- Not Confirmed
Tom Prydie (Dragons)- Confirmed
Will Taylor (Wasps)- Confirmed
Kristian Phillips (Scarlets) -Confirmeed
Rory Pitman (South Wales Scorpions)-Confirmed
Paul James (Bath) - Confirmed
Gareth Owen - Released - Confirmed
Stefan Watermeyer- Released - Confirmed
Craig Cross- Released - Confirmed
Dai Flanagan - Released - Confirmed

ScarletSpiderman wrote:

pioden gorllewin wrote:Think I'm right in saying that the only reason why he hasn't been offered a contract yet from us, is because we haven't finished our recruitment yet. So we are a bit unsure how much money is left in the pot to offer him a concrete contract. Think ideally we would like to keep him at the scarlets.

So fingers crossed we may keep hold of him? I hope so as he does seem a bit like Sal Finau, unarguable not local, however a Scarlet through and through.

That really got my hopes up, as I would be gutted to lose him, until Pioden squashed my hopes

He's been capped for the England Deaf Team, does that not count?

my info might be wrong, but noticed robin davey from the argus has tweeted something similar.

gilbert has stated on a few occasions he only considers himself as english. also isn't pete the meat english too?

he is, but he qualifies for wales on residency I do believe.

pioden gorllewin wrote:my info might be wrong, but noticed robin davey from the argus has tweeted something similar.

gilbert has stated on a few occasions he only considers himself as english. also isn't pete the meat english too?

As far as I know as long as u havent been capped by another nation ur considered a project player regardless of whether u actually want to play for wales or not - just like with tito

Cuthbert signs for the blues

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/18084993

The telegraph have picked up on the Nigel Davies is off to Glaws as DoR too.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/club/9270764/Phil-Vickery-in-call-for-Cornish-Pirates-to-get-a-funding-break-for-new-stadium.html wrote:Gloucester are set to appoint Nigel Davies as their new director of rugby following the resignation of Bryan Redpath last month. Davies, the Llanelli Scarlets director of rugby, has established an impressive reputation with the Welsh side.

Also looks like we've missed out on Joe Tuineau.

http://www.laprovence.com/actu/region-en-direct/rugby-pro-d2-joe-tuineau-le-joli-coup-du-parc

Looks like he went for the money in Pro D2 rather than Heineken cup rugby with us.

Really hope the Nigel Davies story is not true!

pioden gorllewin wrote:Also looks like we've missed out on Joe Tuineau.

http://www.laprovence.com/actu/region-en-direct/rugby-pro-d2-joe-tuineau-le-joli-coup-du-parc

Looks like he went for the money in Pro D2 rather than Heineken cup rugby with us.

I just ran it through Google Translate, its ok, they only signed his nose and beard (apparently) leaving us with the rest of him

what no beard!

we can't sign him - what will he do in november when he can't grow a grav!

we need to move on to the next breaded lock!

ScarletSpiderman wrote:The telegraph have picked up on the Nigel Davies is off to Glaws as DoR too.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/club/9270764/Phil-Vickery-in-call-for-Cornish-Pirates-to-get-a-funding-break-for-new-stadium.html wrote:Gloucester are set to appoint Nigel Davies as their new director of rugby following the resignation of Bryan Redpath last month. Davies, the Llanelli Scarlets director of rugby, has established an impressive reputation with the Welsh side.

Not looking good for the Scarlets if so. Head coach off, massively depleted pack and will miss a big chunk of the squad due to internationals.

gowales wrote:

ScarletSpiderman wrote:The telegraph have picked up on the Nigel Davies is off to Glaws as DoR too.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/club/9270764/Phil-Vickery-in-call-for-Cornish-Pirates-to-get-a-funding-break-for-new-stadium.html wrote:Gloucester are set to appoint Nigel Davies as their new director of rugby following the resignation of Bryan Redpath last month. Davies, the Llanelli Scarlets director of rugby, has established an impressive reputation with the Welsh side.

Not looking good for the Scarlets if so. Head coach off, massively depleted pack and will miss a big chunk of the squad due to internationals.

If it is true then it would be a serious blow, and probably a return to the darker time of a few seasons ago. Not sure who would be around to be brought in to replace him either. Easterby?

Personally i think O'Sullivan would be a good choice, especially with the way the Scarlets play. But probably very unlikely

gowales:

I know andy howells is going to have a field day with all these doom stories!

Oh does this mean we can have a Scarlets In Meltdown thread just like the one the Blues had before they started to get good news on the the signings/re-signings/DoR?

pioden gorllewin wrote:gowales:

I know andy howells is going to have a field day with all these doom stories!

Someone needs to check the swear filter, this phrase seems to have sneaked through.

ScarletSpiderman wrote:

gowales wrote:

ScarletSpiderman wrote:The telegraph have picked up on the Nigel Davies is off to Glaws as DoR too.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/club/9270764/Phil-Vickery-in-call-for-Cornish-Pirates-to-get-a-funding-break-for-new-stadium.html wrote:Gloucester are set to appoint Nigel Davies as their new director of rugby following the resignation of Bryan Redpath last month. Davies, the Llanelli Scarlets director of rugby, has established an impressive reputation with the Welsh side.

Not looking good for the Scarlets if so. Head coach off, massively depleted pack and will miss a big chunk of the squad due to internationals.

If it is true then it would be a serious blow, and probably a return to the darker time of a few seasons ago. Not sure who would be around to be brought in to replace him either. Easterby?

It'll be Gypo's majestic return!!!

Rumour of Fenby in talks with Newcastle

SubsBench wrote:

pioden gorllewin wrote:gowales:

I know andy howells is going to have a field day with all these doom stories!

Someone needs to check the swear filter, this phrase seems to have sneaked through.

I'm also taking that Telegraph story with a massive pinch of salt. They have us down as Llanelli Scarlets so they can't be all that clued up about the rugby.

I really don't want Nigel to leave us

I would like Nige to be coaching in Wales up until he is capable of taking the Wales reins. He shows the qualities of a coach looking out for the best interests of Welsh rugby. TBH, I think he is bit too loyal to be leaving West Wales.

I can't see Fenby going back to Newcastle - especially as he's likely to have more gametime without Lamont there this year (though that doesn't fill me with huge amounts of confidence).

This story has me a bit worried, but then I also remember the Western Fail putting a story out last year that we'd be bust now and the Daily Mail picked it up and a few others. So hopefully this is one of those baseless stories.

It wouldn't be so bad if the Kris Phillips rumour turns out to be true.

Morgannwg wrote:It wouldn't be so bad if the Kris Phillips rumour turns out to be true.

Kris Phillips still has a lot to do to prove he's up to regional level, especially to be depended on for most of the season!

He'd be used in the LV cup games first and foremost I guess, until he develops. Your first choice would be North, L.Williams, Iongi and a recovered Stoddart. There is Iolo Williams you could look at. I think Phillips is better than your Fenby and better than the Ospreys Eli Walker and Luke Morgan. Wouldn't be the first quality player Ospreys let slip away.

ScarletSpiderman wrote:Oh does this mean we can have a Scarlets In Meltdown thread just like the one the Blues had before they started to get good news on the the signings/re-signings/DoR?

Difference being the Blues have/had a LOT more problems that just players leaving and sh*t coaching.

Morgannwg wrote:He'd be used in the LV cup games first and foremost I guess, until he develops. Your first choice would be North, L.Williams, Iongi and a recovered Stoddart. There is Iolo Williams you could look at. I think Phillips is better than your Fenby and better than the Ospreys Eli Walker and Luke Morgan. Wouldn't be the first quality player Ospreys let slip away.

Just wrote a few paragraphs about Kris Phillips having no Pro12 experience and it's been effing deleted again when I press send!!! ARGHH

That could be a big blow to the Scarlets.

profitius wrote:That could be a big blow to the Scarlets.

Which Nigel or Fenby?

Morgannwg wrote:He'd be used in the LV cup games first and foremost I guess, until he develops. Your first choice would be North, L.Williams, Iongi and a recovered Stoddart. There is Iolo Williams you could look at. I think Phillips is better than your Fenby and better than the Ospreys Eli Walker and Luke Morgan. Wouldn't be the first quality player Ospreys let slip away.

North and L Williams will likely be away with Wales for half the season (and North will probably return injured if Gats keeps up his current tradition of playing North while he's injured), and I'd be very uncomfortable relying on a still developing and green Ionghi and two unproven players in Iolo Evans (I assume you mean) and Phillips on the wings - particularly as Stoddart isn't back yet and it will take him quite awhile to get back up to speed.

I also don't see how anyone can compare Phillips to Eli Walker or Fenby when Phillips has only played for Swansea in the prem while the other two have Pro12 experience and in Fenby's case HEC experience. Either way Phillips is going to require quite a bit of work to get up to Pro12 level, and until that time we need players to cover for both Liam and North, and someone to play Wing/FB (whichever Liam doesn't play) at the moment I feel Fenby is just ahead of Ionghi after some of his form at the end of the season - though I don't think Fenby is brilliant.

spiderman:

where did you hear about crazy legs going to newcastle?

Walker has had HEC experience aswell, I think that player is well out of his depth. Yes it might sound odd, I just believe Kris Phillips to have acres more potentional than Eli and Fenby. I never knew why he was overlooked so often by the Ospreys. This is the same team that overlooked Halfpenny and were wrecking (up until his injury) Gareth Owens career might I add .

Morgannwg wrote:Walker has had HEC experience aswell, I think that player is well out of his depth. Yes it might sound odd, I just believe Kris Phillips to have acres more potentional than Eli and Fenby. I never knew why he was overlooked so often by the Ospreys. This is the same team that overlooked Halfpenny and were wrecking (up until his injury) Gareth Owens career might I add .

I'll wait for Kris to prove it first - my understanding though is that he (and Cai Griffiths if it's true) have been bought as cheap players who can be improved up to squad/1st team level slowly through the season so they can add strength and depth - rather than bought to replace any squad members

Phillips will be on one of those 7'scontracts with the wru like richie pugh, rgd & rhys jones. We'll only top up his contract, so he'll be cheap.

pioden gorllewin wrote:spiderman:

where did you hear about crazy legs going to newcastle?

Apparently he is in a list of players thay are in discussions with ( https://www.606v2.com/t29007-will-welch )

spiderman:

interesting -think he can be a liability at times. but he is a physically big lad, who has the ability to beat a player one on one. he has improved his skill set a lot since joining us - he is also well liked member of the squad. is he out of contract this summer?

agen confirm signing of ben blair:

http://rugby-transfers.blogspot.co.uk/search/label/Agen

looks like manu is staying after all!

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/rugbynation/rugby-news/2012/05/19/deacon-manu-staying-with-scarlets-91466-30999970/

pioden gorllewin wrote:agen confirm signing of ben blair:

http://rugby-transfers.blogspot.co.uk/search/label/Agen

K Phillips confirmed this morning signed to the Scarlets. Good luck to him. Be interesting to see how he gets on.

Ospreys confirm Kristian Phillips is off to Turkistan...
http://www.ospreysrugby.com/news/5323.php

Well that's another winger gone... i wonder if they're actually going to start replacing them anytime soon. Eli Walker doesn't instill much confidence in me

With Eli, Hanno and Luke morgan unlikely to get Welsh call ups this season we're fine for wingers, especially as Isaacs can cover.

Kris Phillips could be a great signing for the Scarlets if they can improve his attitude in defence, which is the sole reason for him not getting much Rabo experience this season. North, Stoddart and Phillips could make a very dangerous back 3..

I don't have any confidence in Eli or Luke starting a Heineken cup game.

That's because they havent been given a chance, you may have said the same about Tipuric or Dirksen a season or two ago.

Shane Williams raves about Eli Walker, always gave the impression that he was his biggest competition within the squad, surely that counts for something?

CurlyOsp wrote:That's because they havent been given a chance, you may have said the same about Tipuric or Dirksen a season or two ago.

Shane Williams raves about Eli Walker, always gave the impression that he was his biggest competition within the squad, surely that counts for something?

Walker has played in the HC - He was terrible.

I have no idea why Prydie wasn't playing instead of him.

Morg slating the Ospreys for a change..... Kris Phillips had his chances earlier in the season and was poor at best. Prydie hadn't impressed Tandy since his comeback either so they've been moved on. No doubt Walker, Morgan will be given more games next year. Interesting to see where G Owen will fit in. Really hope he gets a good run in one posi
tion next season. I mean, these lads have played a handful of games and are getting critisized by non O's supporters who've no idea whats going on at the region.

I'm an Osprey's supporter and i think Walker has bee pretty s@%t for the most part. Luke Morgan doesn't look much better either, if people were criticising Phillips's defence then i wonder what they will say about him.

I really hope they play Gareth Owen at fullback and Fussell on the wing.

wales606 wrote:

pioden gorllewin wrote:agen confirm signing of ben blair:

http://rugby-transfers.blogspot.co.uk/search/label/Agen

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https://twitter.com/#!/rickoshearugby


Campbell Johnstone Biarritz and former all black apparently.

Big blow for the Scarlets if Nigel Davies is leaving - But at least they get an ex-all black THP.