ERC Heineken Cup Final thread - Ulster v Leinster

[Glas a du]

First topic message reminder :

All roads lead to Twickenham for the clash of the Titans of Irish Rugby on 19/5/12.

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Ulster for a long time dominated inter provincial rugby in Ireland. Some see this as the start of something big.

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Leinster are blessed with an amazing cohort of talent, based around BOD. Is the third final in four years one too far for him? If Leinster do it they will create history with the first back to back wins (since Leicester apparently. Couldn't remember that, must have been devalued for some reason )

"@HarpinOnRugby: Sexton needs 15pts in the Heineken Cup final to become the first player to win back-to-back scoring titles in the competition. #2amrugbyfact"

Ulster have failed to make the Rabo playoffs. Will an extra game against Glasgow this weekend help or hinder Leinster? Will a lack of a competitive game hinder Ulster?

Meanwhile, we conducted a vox pops:

"Leinster all day, all night and all the next week. It's in the bag. BELIEVE"
Mr Gibson

"We are gonna Party like its 1999! SUFTUM!"
Mr Ravavivian

"Ulster are in CRISIS!"
Mr Ravavivian

"If Ulster get to the final then it's a devalued tournament"
Mr Livinguptostereotype

"well at least Nigel is reffing, I'll have my pink cowboy hat on cheering for him!"
Mrs Livinguptostereotype

"where my f***ing whisky, I don't support the Burgh, but they were robbed. It will be Exeter challenging Clermont in next years final mark my words!"
Mr Ofussurvive


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Sorry to get off topic lads. Just heard that Paddy Wallace will be down in the bar on Monday helping give away the heineken cup final prize from 8pm if anyone is interested.



"@WhiffofCordite: Not great news about Kearney and BOD is it? Hopefully just minor niggles. Why must pre-final weeks always be so fraught?"

"Mine's a double..." Mickado

"Can we change the title of this thread please to Three time European Champions v The poor man's munster" Hoog.

Come on Ulster, where's your banter?


"Kiwi, this one will do: -

" Rava

From Twitter:
"@rpetty80: If Ulster win the Hcup then Ireland would have 3 teams that have won it multiple times. England has 2 and France its just 1 #rugby"

There have been 35 tries scored in 16 Heineken Cup Finals. Will this game be above or below average in terms of tries?

[Biltong]

On a serious note, disgraceful article in the IT:

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2012/0514/1224316063790.html

just wondering how the "politics" will motivate Ruan, Johan, Stefan and Pedrie?

[Mickado]

WTF?!

It’s the way of the world, and it’s starting to happen here. Leinster are disliked not because of religion, or tribe or identity. They’re hated all for themselves, for being poncey, right-on, Dublin 4, toffee-nosed, privately-educated Hoorays whose daddies still wear school-ties. Praise the Lord, we’re growing up a bit!

Just posting this part so people know that this chap is just as bitter about both teams.

[rodders]

I actually though that bit was spot on Mick....

[Rava]

It's called selling newspapers. I would hazard a guess that the guy doesn't even believe his own ramblings.

[1F'sgonnagetya!]

It's a pretty ridiculous and pointless piece, I've booked tickets through ticketmaster and am hoping that I'll be sat close to some Leinster fans (obviously won't be disappointed if I'm surrounded by fellow Ulster fans though).

From what I see, the whole politics thing is usually brought in by the media and fans aren't too bothered. The rivalry is between the teams and nothing else, even then it's only through the game and then it's back to getting smashed with each other!

[Glas a du]

Mickado, Rory, look up 'gotcha' in the Dictionary, it's the next one to 'gullable'.

Don't worry, I "gotcha"

[Pete330v2]

WTF?!

It’s the way of the world, and it’s starting to happen here. Leinster are disliked not because of religion, or tribe or identity. They’re hated all for themselves, for being poncey, right-on, Dublin 4, toffee-nosed, privately-educated Hoorays whose daddies still wear school-ties. Praise the Lord, we’re growing up a bit!

Just posting this part so people know that this chap is just as bitter about both teams.

It was after reading that particular paragraph that I had to stop reading for a while Mick and vent my anger on the wall. I badly want that eejit to lose his job but unfortunately it would be a dream too far.
The good thing is little warts like him will never create anything near division in rugby fans.

[MrsP]

WTF?!

It’s the way of the world, and it’s starting to happen here. Leinster are disliked not because of religion, or tribe or identity. They’re hated all for themselves, for being poncey, right-on, Dublin 4, toffee-nosed, privately-educated Hoorays whose daddies still wear school-ties. Praise the Lord, we’re growing up a bit!

Just posting this part so people know that this chap is just as bitter about both teams.

It was after reading that particular paragraph that I had to stop reading for a while Mick and vent my anger on the wall. I badly want that eejit to lose his job but unfortunately it would be a dream too far.
The good thing is little warts like him will never create anything near division in rugby fans.

Who do you think you are saying he'll never create division???

[Pete330v2]

WTF?!

It’s the way of the world, and it’s starting to happen here. Leinster are disliked not because of religion, or tribe or identity. They’re hated all for themselves, for being poncey, right-on, Dublin 4, toffee-nosed, privately-educated Hoorays whose daddies still wear school-ties. Praise the Lord, we’re growing up a bit!

Just posting this part so people know that this chap is just as bitter about both teams.

It was after reading that particular paragraph that I had to stop reading for a while Mick and vent my anger on the wall. I badly want that eejit to lose his job but unfortunately it would be a dream too far.
The good thing is little warts like him will never create anything near division in rugby fans.

Who do you think you are saying he'll never create division???

You're in fightmode today MrsP..........Paaahhhhhhhhooootttt em up!!!!!!!

[MrsP]

[Pal Joey]

I think it's going to be a great all Ireland final on neutral territory at Twickers.

Well done GAA.
Thank god Kerry didn't make it again this year. Jeez that would have been boring.

For the record, I reckon it will be tight one. Leinster by a goal or two only.

[Pete330v2]

Now I didn't mean to shock MrsP, that was meant to be a typed impression of the cowardly lion

[Mickado]

I think it's going to be a great all Ireland final on neutral territory at Twickers.

Well done GAA.
Thank god Kerry didn't make it again this year. Jeez that would have been boring.

For the record, I reckon it will be tight one. Leinster by a goal or two only.

Kerry made the AI final last year and let me assure you, it was far from boring!

The last time there was an AI final outside of Ireland was New York in 1947, and Cavan (Ulster) won....

[Notch]

WTF?!

It’s the way of the world, and it’s starting to happen here. Leinster are disliked not because of religion, or tribe or identity. They’re hated all for themselves, for being poncey, right-on, Dublin 4, toffee-nosed, privately-educated Hoorays whose daddies still wear school-ties. Praise the Lord, we’re growing up a bit!

Just posting this part so people know that this chap is just as bitter about both teams.

Feicing right, the guy seems like a right eejit. Seems like a guy who has a few stereotypical views of provinces (all Leinster fans a privately educated snobs from Dublin, all Ulster fans are middle class Protestants from in and around Belfast...) and it shows. He just is completely failing to grasp why, for instance, guys from Monaghan or Donegal would be interested in Ulster or farmers from Louth or Meath would go to the RDS or former GAA players in either province would try their hand of rugby. He's just not adapted his views to a changing reality.

[Notch]

The last time there was an AI final outside of Ireland was New York in 1947, and Cavan (Ulster) won....

Advantage...?

[pete (buachaill on eirne)]

Boyne-

Aye the Christmas after my 4th birthday.

Glad to hear BOD has been passed fit wouldn't have been the final it could have been without him.

[Mickado]

The last time there was an AI final outside of Ireland was New York in 1947, and Cavan (Ulster) won....

Advantage...?

Yeah, definitely.

[Glas a du]

For Ulster to win they have to kick their kicks. Multiples of three. Tick-tock-tick-tock.

[rodders]

I think all the Ulster fans should turn up wearing ROG face masks to put Sexton off his place kicks.......

[Glas a du]

Leinster fans, I didn't mean to frighten you. Dont be thinking "tick-tock-tick-tock" every time Pienaar lands one now will you.

[Notch]

Boyne-

Aye the Christmas after my 4th birthday.

Glad to hear BOD has been passed fit wouldn't have been the final it could have been without him.

Agreed.

[Glas a du]

Oh go on, argue about something pointless.

[Notch]

Ian Whitten is better than Brendan Macken.

There... I said it!

[rodders]

No he isn't!..... oh wait hang on I shouldn't have said that should I? .....

[rodders]

Fergus McFadden is a poor mans Jonny Bell!

[Notch]

We don't need Brian O'Driscoll!! We've got Darren Cave!

[Mickado]

If Ferris isn't fit but still plays (like in the Munster game) Leinster will score 4 tries.

Feast on that!

[MrsP]

So long as we score 6 that's fine with me! In fact, who cares about tries? So long as we score more points than you I'll be hap-hap-happy!!!!!

No TBPs on offer this weekend!

[Mickado]

I never said there was. I'm just making a prediction.

[MrsP]

Whatever helps you sleep at night buddy!

[eirebilly]

We don't need Brian O'Driscoll!! We've got Darren Cave!

Where did that red hand come from...

[Mickado]

Whatever helps you sleep at night buddy!

I need all the help I can get!

[Notch]

I purloined it from amidst the incest and hot air of Ulsters fan site!

[eirebilly]

I purloined it from amidst the incest and hot air of Ulsters fan site!

[Notch]

Prediction; neither side will score more than 20 points.

Prediction; neither side will score more than 2 tries.

[Rava]

Prediction; neither side will score more than 20 points.

Prediction; neither side will score more than 2 tries.

Bold enough predictions, Notch

[Big Mac Michael]

Have a guess which one is Ulster

[Rava]

Big Mac you have already shown your allegiance by prior multiple use of the "vomiting" emoticon.
Continued use in the manner already shown will only serve to confirm the already formed opinion that you are not a very nice person.
You would do much better to engage in the friendly banter that has been the theme of this article.

[Glas a du]

Mmmmmmmm, Big Macs...

[Notch]

I'd say Dreamer, as a mod, will deal with Big Macs post Rava.

No way will she let anyone depict an Irish side as

[Mickado]

[geoff998rugby]

Besides the good news that Henry will play I believe Henderson is being considered for the bench.

Close call between him, Diack and Faloon

My guess is Diack wil get the nod but its close

[rodders]

Big Mac you have already shown your allegiance by prior multiple use of the "vomiting" emoticon.
Continued use in the manner already shown will only serve to confirm the already formed opinion that you are not a very nice person.

Either that or he's got a fairly delicate constitution.....

[Notch]

Besides the good news that Henry will play I beleive Henderson is beign considered for the bench.

Wow! Thats... thats a demonstration of how much faith the management have in the form of Robbie Diack and Willie Faloon

For me it's still Diack every time. I believe he can and will raise his game if called upon. Though I'm sure Hugh Farrelly would be delighted to see two current U20 internationals in our squad given his thoughts on us not giving young Irish players opportunities.

[geoff998rugby]

Edited my post Notch - I too think Diack will get the nod but it does seem to be in doubt. I think they have been delighted with Diack in the last few games and very disappointed in Faloon.

More a recognition of how much Henderson has impressed.
As I mentioned elsewhere he has made a very old pros sit up and think - Muller, Bestm Ferris, Afoa etc are seriously impressed with him

[rodders]

More a recognition of how much Henderson has impressed.
As I mentioned elsewhere he has made a very old pros sit up and think - Muller, Bestm Ferris, Afoa etc are seriously impressed with him

So am I, get him in there. I'd have him ahead of Diack for sure.

[Standulstermen]

Diack as a line out option is 2nd to none as well. His handling is superb and if he just gets the agression flowing I think he can be very good.

[rodders]

Hes not great in defence Diack, falls off too many tackles for my liking and isn't great in contact...generally hes not as physical as he was a few seasons ago.

Leinsters lineout isn't particularly great anyways although they can bring Mclaughlin and Toner in.

If Ferris or Pedrie needs to go off then Henderson would be a better option imo.

[Rava]

Edited my post Notch - I too think Diack will get the nod but it does seem to be in doubt. I think they have been delighted with Diack in the last few games and very disappointed in Faloon.

More a recognition of how much Henderson has impressed.
As I mentioned elsewhere he has made a very old pros sit up and think - Muller, Bestm Ferris, Afoa etc are seriously impressed with him

[Glas a du]

some very pro oldies?

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