Who will win this years World Championship?

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Who's your favourite for this years title ?

One of the seeds ? Or will it be a qualifier ?


We're almost down to the last 4, so let us know who you think will finally clinch it.

An American Alex Higgins/Ronnie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=NRN8MDhQIUM#t=28s

mystiroakey wrote:TSC i dont have clue what you are talking about, players have played as well as they can against him. Robbo was probally the toughest losing opponent against anyone. Ronnie has had no easy ride. I think your mistaken

mystiroakey, Robbo played horribly for a whole session against Ronnie where he failed to get a break of 25+ in I think it was six or seven frames. Sub-standard by a mediocre player but horrific by standards the best players in the world set. Williams as well was a pale shadow of himself missing balls he never used to so I think that is what TSC is alluding do.

Josiah Maiestas wrote:

Ronnie has had no easy ride. I think your mistaken

I know you southerners love your Ronnie but cmon now, that is just a joke statement...

no i honestly think your statement is a joke- i really dont understand your view point at all. Infact it is beyond nonsense from my pov

If he has made it look easy to you thats because he has played well- Ronnie has played two vintage sessions and the rest of his play has been up there were any others best session.. Robbo would have beaten any other this tourny, he has allready played his and the tournaments toughest game

CaledonianCraig wrote:

mystiroakey wrote:TSC i dont have clue what you are talking about, players have played as well as they can against him. Robbo was probally the toughest losing opponent against anyone. Ronnie has had no easy ride. I think your mistaken

mystiroakey, Robbo played horribly for a whole session against Ronnie where he failed to get a break of 25+ in I think it was six or seven frames. Sub-standard by a mediocre player but horrific by standards the best players in the world set. Williams as well was a pale shadow of himself missing balls he never used to so I think that is what TSC is alluding do.

Have you lot seen any other games!!

the quality has been very low from everyone - ronnie has had no easier ride than any other- the next best player (ali carter) was gifted the end of the game by trump- and trump had an absolotute shocker.

You guys need to compare the overall quality- the players havent just played worse v ronnie- but better v everyone else! just because ronnie has been consitant isnt a bad thing!

This could easily be 17-5 or so. Stevens has been awful.

Yes, no one has played well for a whole match against Ronnie, regardless of whether he was potting them off the lampshades or not (where does that come from??) which he was been doing.

I will openly admit Ronnie's been the best player consistently during this WC though.

So you admit that ronnie has played the best.. what the heck is the point in trying to devalue his maybe win(that hasnt even happened)

you are saying others have played badly v roonie- its ludicrus- you have to compare the overall quality , which has been just as low IN ALL THE OTHER GAMES- yet ronnie has played good the whole way through. That is the point you are missing!

its ronnie that has come out of the pack- not players playing badly v ronnie.

These tables have been immensly tough this year and that is one of the reasons why we have had so much scrappy stuff

A few of Jamie Jones' matches were high quality, especially v Higginson.

jamie jones was ok at potting- but his safety was worse than shocking- sorry low quality overall

mystiroakey.

Would you say Robbo played anywhere near his best against Ronnie? Be truthful.

Would you say Matthew Stevens thus far has played anywhere near his best? Be truthful.

Would you say Mark Williams was like his old self against Ronnie? Again be truthful.

I'd answer no to all of them but to be fair Ronnie can only beat what he has in front of him.

Break building has been excellent this year but safety has been pretty poor. A lot of the players good at break building have made it to the later stages. Fast cloths.

Wow wasn't expecting that miss.

Neither was I. Matchu is making incredibly hard work of this

5-0?

And another miss from Stevens.

CaledonianCraig wrote:mystiroakey.

Would you say Robbo played anywhere near his best against Ronnie? Be truthful.

Would you say Matthew Stevens thus far has played anywhere near his best? Be truthful.

Would you say Mark Williams was like his old self against Ronnie? Again be truthful.

I'd answer no to all of them but to be fair Ronnie can only beat what he has in front of him.

your missing the point- no one has played there best bar ronnie and carter- tough tables-infact very tough tables has reduced the quailty. And at the highest level your only as good as your performnces at WC.

Its funny because the second session that you only saw as bad snooker from robbo, i was just watching ronnie knock in frame winning break after frame winning break.

answer this. TSC is trying to devalue ronnies performance in this WC, is that a fair assememnet of what has happened- you have to compare the mean average quality of play when you make that assesment as well

Good pot with the rest.

I'm not trying to devalue anything!!! You can only beat who's in front of you regardless of how they're playing.

Ronnie has been the most consistent player so far no doubt without being spectacular or needing to be spectacular but you see he is missing some shots I wouldn't expect either. He has not been bullet-proof in quite a few frames and if anyone can push him really close then who knows how Ronnie will react?

Sign of a good player; not being at your best but still winning.

Ronnie's long game has been terrific though.

I'd disagree TSC. Look at his long potting success and there are a number of players in the tournie with better stats. Even Matt has better such stats...or did.

From what I've seen it's been terrific then.

Matthew is making it hard for himself tonight.

Yaaaaay! Matthew Stevens wins a frame. 5-3 is on the cards!!

Stevens puts his first frame on the board. Ronnie leads 4-1.

TSC wrote:Ronnie's long game has been terrific though.

well i think that prooves you are just making assumptions- his long potting has actually been the weakest part of his play..

mystiroakey wrote:

TSC wrote:Ronnie's long game has been terrific though.

well i think that prooves you are just making assumptions- his long potting has actually been the weakest part of his play..

I can't say anything right according to you can I? It's been terrific in this tournament from what I've seen. Used to be a huge weakness of his but it's gotten better.

It has been better than recent years but I wouldn't call it terrific by any stretch.

And just as I say that he starts missing them. WaL

So you havent seen much of this tourny yet you think all of ronnies opponents have played poor!!

How did you come to such an assumption?

I will give you a break and suggest its the anti ronnie vibe on here.

mystiroakey wrote:So you havent seen much of this tourny yet you think all of ronnies opponents have played poor!!

How did you come to such an assumption?

I will give you a break and suggest its the anti ronnie vibe on here.

Well if you think Robbo, Williams and Stevens thus far have played anywhere near their best against Ronnie then I'd be surprised.

If anything I've wached too much of this tourny

I didn't watch much of Ronnie v Ebdon, saw some of Ronnie v MJW (the 2nd session mostly) and most of Robbo v Ronnie.

You say anti-Ronnie but when I praise his long game you say it's been poor

ollyrules wrote:

mystiroakey wrote:So you havent seen much of this tourny yet you think all of ronnies opponents have played poor!!

How did you come to such an assumption?

I will give you a break and suggest its the anti ronnie vibe on here.

I will give you an example.

ronnie makes frame winning breaks in 4 out of 5 frames from his first chance in the break.Some on comes one here and asks-" what have i missed?"

5 posters litter the place with- robbo keeps missing and playing bad break offs!

propaganda at its best

Mark Williams Centuries V Ronnie = 0

Robbo Centuries V Ronnie = 1

Stevens Centuries this far V Ronnie = 0

Ebdon centuries v Ronnie? Need I ask?

2 for Matchu!! Wow.

Stevens grinds out another frame win to pull it back to 2-4.

1 century for Ebbo.

TSC wrote:Ebdon centuries v Ronnie? Need I ask?

You guessed it - 0. Highest break of 90.

centuries are immaterial- its only about frame winners, secondly you attribute lack of centuries to the losing playing bad rather than attributing it to good play by the winner?

obviously its very likely to be a bit of both.

Poor shot, let's see what Matchu can do.

Yes Ronnie can only beat what is in front of him I accept that but that is why I am not wetting my pants about his form so far.

Answer: Nothing. Shocking, absolutely shocking. Very poor shot.

his form is shocking tonight- but that table is clearly as hard as it ever has been- every player is shocking on it- yet ronnie is leading by two at present

Ronnie will kick himself if he does not take a lead out of this session - and quite a handsome one.

And another poor shot choice.

the players are scared of this cloth, its not normal

Really poor by Matchu. His long game has gone awry.

You make your own luck. And Matthew Stevens was getting the run of the ball and missed an easy red. Shocking.

Right I am off to bed now to watch the final frame. Ronnie leads 5-2 and you feel this final frame is massive. Ronnie wins it and I'd say he has the match by the scruff of the neck but if Matt takes it he'll feel it is an escape to get out of the session just two behind considering how he has played.