Wales U20 119-7 Japan U20

Wales U20 119-7 Japan U20

Wales U20 119-7 Japan U20

Wales Under-20s warm-up for next month's IRB Junior World Championship in South Africa with a 19-try romp over Japan U20s at St Helen's in Swansea.
Bridgend and Ospreys wing Luke Morgan was the first to cross the try line for Wales after five minutes.
Wales added a further seven tries before half-time, although wing Kentaro Kawahara did reply for the visitors.
Four-times Wales capped Tom Prydie crossed for five tries, while centre Thomas Pascoe took Wales past 100.
Coach Danny Wilson said: "I am delighted by the way we stuck to our game plan and kept our shape. It was a clinical performance with some great tries which proved the level of potency we have in our backs.
"To be fair to Japan they never gave up and provided us with the sort of workout we needed leading into a tough Junior World Championship group."
Wales face Fiji in their opening game on 4 June in a group which also features holders New Zealand and Samoa.
TEAM NEWS

Wales U20: Tom Prydie (Ospreys); Harry Robinson (Blues), Jack Dixon (Dragons), Owen Williams (Scarlets), Luke Morgan (Ospreys); Sam Davies (Ospreys), Jonathan Evans (Dragons); Rob Evans (Scarlets), Kirby Myhill (Scarlets), Samson Lee (Scarlets), Cory Hill (capt, Blues), Matthew Screech (Blues), Luke Hamilton (Blues), Daniel Thomas (Scarlets), Dan Baker (Ospreys).
Replacements: Darran Harris (Blues), Jamie Sollis (Dragons), Gareth Thomas (Carmarthen Quins), WillGriff John (Blues), Rhodri Hughes (Ospreys), Jack Jones (Ospreys), Reuben Tucker (Ospreys), Ieuan Jones (Dragons), Ellis Jenkins (Blues), Rhodri Williams (Scarlets), Matthew Morgan (Ospreys), Thomas Pascoe (Blues), Cory Allen (Blues), Iolo Evans (Scarlets), Ross Jones (Ospreys)


Good signing for the Dragons

I don't like these sort of scorelines. Just makes you wonder, what was the point. Neither side will have gotten much out of this game.

Quite surprised how many points the lads scored.

I think the age group teams from the countries who do have proper rugby structures are far more advanced than the countries that don't have those structures.

Having said that rugby is very popular in Japan, so this has most likley more to do with lack of size and physicality on the part of Japan.

Usually at age group level it is mostly your own genetic stock as rugby players only join Japan from other countries on the professional front, so you can expect Japan to always struggle at age group level

Bill

It shows the gulf in the Junior game. Wales were beaten by a similar score by the all blacks at last years JWC

But in context , this group of young Welsh lads will probably in turn get hammered by the young New Zealand side. The team will gain important experience from the tournament as a whole

Edit - hah , beat me to it Maes

Maes and munkian, exactly.

The reality is when it comes to age group rugby the disparity is unlikely to change unless all participating countries have the same start.

Example.

New Zealand kids in their droves start playing rugby (even if it is only tag rugby), South African kids too.

I take my son, at 8 years old, he crouches, touches, pauses and engages in an 8 man scrum. They lift in the line outs, they do proper rucking, tackling etc.

Compare that to a nation where the kids only hit real contact at age 12 or 15 or whatever. It stands to reason there will be these disparities.

Sadly for SA, we have underperformed in the age group for a long time now, once again due to quota's.

I know New Zealand hammered us by a similar margin but nobody expected it and I even thought Wales stood a decent chance against them that day.

I think this could be Wales having learnt the lessons from that performance and I doubt if they played again the score would be as dramatic. still a loss most likely but much closer

McKay I am sure the scoreline would be less this year, but the reality is if you lose by 50, you may as well lose by 100, the result is still a hammering.

biltongbek wrote:Maes and munkian, exactly.

The reality is when it comes to age group rugby the disparity is unlikely to change unless all participating countries have the same start.

Example.

New Zealand kids in their droves start playing rugby (even if it is only tag rugby), South African kids too.

I take my son, at 8 years old, he crouches, touches, pauses and engages in an 8 man scrum. They lift in the line outs, they do proper rucking, tackling etc.

Compare that to a nation where the kids only hit real contact at age 12 or 15 or whatever. It stands to reason there will be these disparities.

Sadly for SA, we have underperformed in the age group for a long time now, once again due to quota's.

Yes I agree with your points Bill. Luckily your country is self governed. Through the eighties the British government decided we didnt need to encourage team sports, even sports on a whole. The poorer schools really let things slip away some schools barely providing any sports at all.

Since devaluation in the late 90s Wales have been able to administer far more and give the ok to local organisations that can help not only encourage sport at school, but help provide facilities, coaches and equipment that had been completely neglected previously.

It is wonderful to see what we're once rusty old posts standing in in cut fields near schools twenty plus years ago now turn in to magic arenas with new posts and flags and a great pitch.

Are Japan even in the JWC? That would help put things into perspective. I said elsewhere I'm concerned about how physical this Welsh team can be. We face Samoa, NZ, Fiji.

Yep, that is where passion is born, on those fields where no teacher no parent interferes with the gay abandonement and kids just play the game.

"forward pass"

"no it wasn't"

"well we gave the an earlier one"

Ok, fine, take it"

Morgannwg wrote:Are Japan even in the JWC? That would help put things into perspective. I said elsewhere I'm concerned about how physical this Welsh team can be. We face Samoa, NZ, Fiji.

There are only 12 international teams in the JWC.

I must admit I have never heard of Japan having a junior team.

Blimey, it makes you wonder what NZ or England would have done to Japan.

No I hadn't heard of them having a junior team either. Seems like they are a long way off competing in the JWC.

sugarNspikes wrote:Blimey, it makes you wonder what NZ or England would have done to Japan.

Why don't you start your own thread on the subject then? I'm sure mafiamaesteg will have a comment or two to make for you. We are discussing Wales v Japan here. Btw, why did you dissapear then come back with a new name?

Woah that's a bit agressive Morgan. He's just making an observation. You've also done that a fair bit yourself, so i wouldn't get on the high horse mate

doctornickolas wrote:I don't like these sort of scorelines. Just makes you wonder, what was the point. Neither side will have gotten much out of this game.

Sounds like Mukian did.

sugarNspikes wrote:Blimey, it makes you wonder what NZ or England would have done to Japan.

The desperado sugar boy is off again - Its amazing what yet another Slam can do

gowales wrote:Woah that's a bit agressive Morgan. He's just making an observation. You've also done that a fair bit yourself, so i wouldn't get on the high horse mate

I look forward to you retracting this statement the moment you recieve a PM from another poster.



p.s. Your comment is more likely to encourage bickering that discuss the game. A comment on the actual subject would have been nice but you had to go and lower yourself, didn't you?

anotherworldofpain wrote:

doctornickolas wrote:I don't like these sort of scorelines. Just makes you wonder, what was the point. Neither side will have gotten much out of this game.

Sounds like Mukian did.

Woah...woah.. what did I do ? Apologies, I'll go with the current trend on this forum and be completely dispariging and negative about anything Welsh

Wow what a score, I was all set to go to this game, then my partner told me my son was ill so I stayed home, am a bit gutted I didn't get to see the game, but am not sure I'd of enjoyed seeing Japan getting beaten by that kind of score.

Still at least the boys had a run out before the World Cup.

biltongbek wrote:Maes and munkian, exactly.

The reality is when it comes to age group rugby the disparity is unlikely to change unless all participating countries have the same start.

Example.

New Zealand kids in their droves start playing rugby (even if it is only tag rugby), South African kids too.

I take my son, at 8 years old, he crouches, touches, pauses and engages in an 8 man scrum. They lift in the line outs, they do proper rucking, tackling etc.

Compare that to a nation where the kids only hit real contact at age 12 or 15 or whatever. It stands to reason there will be these disparities.

Interestingly, despite the success of England age-group sides (and the increasing numbers making it through to the senior side) the RFU are looking to reform age-group rugby to reduce the emphasis on contact and emphasise running, passing and support lines. I'm really surprised to hear about 8 year olds playing with 8 person scrums and the engage sequence!

DaveM, there is a slight difference in the scrums though, the young ones don't take a hit though.

They do the same sequence but the hit is similar to what we see as a uncontested scrum in pro rugby, they also may not scrum the opponents back more than 1.5 meters, then the scrum has to be reset.

So the basics are learnt, but the safety measures are in place.

Good to see the game growing in countries like Japan, I think the IRB deserve a pat on the back

and another thing...

I take it all these lads are now tied to Wales!

Oh Hersh, you're a real diva before breakfast, go ask your Mum to put some pop tarts on for you

Do they still make Pop tarts?

biltongbek wrote:D
So the basics are learnt, but the safety measures are in place.

Right, the 1.5m rule gets them used to the opposition collapsing it the minute they get a shove on

PSW, this prevents the scrums from collapsing, that's the whole point of the limitation of which you may push the opposing scrum.

biltongbek wrote:PSW, this prevents the scrums from collapsing, that's the whole point of the limitation of which you may push the opposing scrum.

Yeah i was just making a satirical point, when was the past time you saw an elite scrum let itself be pushed back 1.5m without it wheeling/collapsing/standing up or whatever

Bath do it every week Peter.

Oh wait you said Elite scrum!

HERSH wrote:Do they still make Pop tarts?

Have they ever done Pop tarts in Barth ? You'll have to slum it in Bedminster Asda

Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:

biltongbek wrote:PSW, this prevents the scrums from collapsing, that's the whole point of the limitation of which you may push the opposing scrum.

Yeah i was just making a satirical point, when was the past time you saw an elite scrum let itself be pushed back 1.5m without it wheeling/collapsing/standing up or whatever

The difference is these kids have not yet mastered the art of a collapsed scrum.

biltongbek wrote:

Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:

biltongbek wrote:PSW, this prevents the scrums from collapsing, that's the whole point of the limitation of which you may push the opposing scrum.

Yeah i was just making a satirical point, when was the past time you saw an elite scrum let itself be pushed back 1.5m without it wheeling/collapsing/standing up or whatever

The difference is these kids have not yet mastered the art of a collapsed scrum.

Aaaah, the fabled 'dark arts'

munkian wrote:

biltongbek wrote:

Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:

biltongbek wrote:PSW, this prevents the scrums from collapsing, that's the whole point of the limitation of which you may push the opposing scrum.

Yeah i was just making a satirical point, when was the past time you saw an elite scrum let itself be pushed back 1.5m without it wheeling/collapsing/standing up or whatever

The difference is these kids have not yet mastered the art of a collapsed scrum.

Aaaah, the fabled 'dark arts'

Come over to the DARK SIDE boys, the force is strong in the engine room.

I love the term 'un-seen work'

Would never wash in my office

Boss - What have you done all day, you're asleep at you desk !'

Me- 'Boss, I do all the un-seen work !'

Boss ' Good job Munkian, have a raise !'

Does anyone know if Japans team had any players attached to their professional teams.

If they did the result is suprising. If not its no suprise

munkian wrote:I love the term 'un-seen work'

Would never wash in my office

Boss - What have you done all day, you're asleep at you desk !'

Me- 'Boss, I do all the un-seen work !'

Boss ' Good job Munkian, have a raise !'

I've heard it said by my boss when I moaned about someone doing sod all day in day out at work. I got told that he does alot of the unseen work, behind the scenes.

ScarletSpiderman - bet hes popular

munkian wrote:ScarletSpiderman - bet hes popular

Funny enough he ain't, but he is leaving soon, and I aint stopped smiling since I heard!!