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Post by lydian Wed 16 May 2012, 12:00 pm

OK...some good matches to turn into today starting around now!

CENTRALE Start 12:00 noon
Marcel Granollers (ESP) v [WC] Fabio Fognini (ITA) ... this on centre? zzzz, Granola Bar munches on...Fognini in 3 (Italian crowd effect)
[3] Roger Federer (SUI) v Carlos Berlocq (ARG) ...Carlos who? Early shower for the Maestro.

Not Before 7:30 PM
Florian Mayer (GER) v [2] Rafael Nadal (ESP) ...Nadal will want revenge for that loss to Mayer late last year, and has a clay point to prove.

SUPERTENNIS ARENA Start 11:00 am
[10] Juan Martin Del Potro (ARG) v Mikhail Youzhny (RUS) ...nice match! JMDP again as last week.
[16] Richard Gasquet (FRA) v [WC] Paolo Lorenzi (ITA) ...Gasquet in straights

Not Before 7:00 PM
Stanislas Wawrinka (SUI) v [8] Janko Tipsarevic (SRB) ...nice match #2! This will go to the wire. Stan in 3.

PIETRANGELI Start 11:00 am
[7] Tomas Berdych (CZE) v Lukasz Kubot (POL) ...straights to BirdMan.
[9] John Isner (USA) v Andreas Seppi (ITA) ...good support for Seppi but blown off court by 231 aces from the human telegraph pole.

COURT 1 Start 11:00 am
Radek Stepanek (CZE) v [14] Juan Monaco (ARG) ...I can see Stepanek sneaking this one...
[Q] Sam Querrey (USA) v [12] Nicolas Almagro (ESP) ...Mugro all the way here. Querrey seems to be going backwards...career in doubles beckons.

COURT 4 Not Before 2:00 PM
[Q] Guillermo Garcia-Lopez (ESP) v [11] Gilles Simon (FRA) ...See-Mon all the way.

Do you see any upsets or quirks?
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Post by barrystar Wed 16 May 2012, 12:08 pm

Funny - Rome so far has been a total snore-fest. I had the scoreboard up yesterday and not one of the matches seemed to hold the faintest glimmer of interest. Perhaps it's too many dodgy Italian players on Centre. Anyway, the tournament's certain to heat up over the next few days. Last chance before RG and all that.
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Post by reckoner Wed 16 May 2012, 12:21 pm

Nice article lydian... and I 100% agree with your picks. I'll try to be more controversial in the next round...

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Post by lydian Wed 16 May 2012, 12:27 pm

Cheers both...yes barry, not much to savour so far although I enjoyed a few flashes of brilliance from Tomic last night, he's clearly got something in his game thats going to be good in future and he's got good hands too. His father looks a 'right one' though...

Surprisingly Monaco takes the first set.
Granola gnawed his way through the first set too...oh please no more tomorrow, I cant stand Tumbleweed Tennis.
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Post by luciusmann Wed 16 May 2012, 12:42 pm

Do we know if Fed is definitely playing then? I haven't seen any news on it. The schedule says he is...

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Post by lydian Wed 16 May 2012, 12:43 pm

Yes he is lucuismann

Oh dear Fognini 2 pts from the exit door...
Turbot is a set and a break down.
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Post by lydian Wed 16 May 2012, 12:44 pm

This was the link posted yesterday confirming...with a pic of the man himself near the Coliseum.

http://www.tennis-x.com/xblog/2012-05-15/9556.php
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Post by luciusmann Wed 16 May 2012, 12:46 pm

That's great news!

The sooner that match is finished, the sooner Fed comes on, which probably will be a straight forward win but I'd still like to see how Fed does on the red stuff.

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Post by lydian Wed 16 May 2012, 12:51 pm

Yep, hope his hip stays firm though given he was taking anti-inflams!
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Post by sirfredperry Wed 16 May 2012, 12:51 pm

What odds could you get on Fed being beaten here.? At least he's on in a few minutes. I was worried that first match was gonna be a longey. Wonder what it's like for the guys in the locker room not knowing exactly when they're going to get on ? Must be great having a fixed time rather than, say, being third match on like Murray yesterday.

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Post by barrystar Wed 16 May 2012, 12:58 pm

At least there's no risk any longer of the Fognini effect determining the ultimate winner....
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Post by lags72 Wed 16 May 2012, 12:58 pm

Ladbrokes will give you 16/1 on that. Not as much as I would have thought.

But then Berlocq does seem to spend as much of his year as possible on clay. Even in November Erm

(a measly 1/100 on a Fed win .....)

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Post by lydian Wed 16 May 2012, 1:06 pm

And they're off...30-15 Fed 1st game.
Monaco rolling over Turbot...5-1 in 2nd
Delpo vs Yooooozny just starting too,
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Post by luciusmann Wed 16 May 2012, 1:11 pm

I wouldn't bet on Fed losing today, if that's the odds you wanted sfp.

Fed's already wrapped up 90% of the points so far and taken a break too.

Maybe in the third round.......although Ferrero hasn't beaten Fed since 2003 so not sure if that's worth a punt either...

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Post by barrystar Wed 16 May 2012, 1:13 pm

Aye - and they're not hanging around either, 7 minutes for 3 games!
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Post by barrystar Wed 16 May 2012, 1:28 pm

Wierd, Fed just handed 2bp's on his serve at 4-2, back to deuce now.
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Post by sirfredperry Wed 16 May 2012, 1:32 pm

Just switched office TV on to watch one game only to see Fed slide to 15-40. So switched off and now he's saved that game and it's 5-2, so will continue to follow scores electronically, I think.

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Post by bogbrush Wed 16 May 2012, 1:33 pm

Easy for Fed, he's popped back into 2nd gear.
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Post by lags72 Wed 16 May 2012, 1:43 pm

memo to Carlos : if you get yourself 2 bp's against the Swiss one, and on your best surface ........ be sure to make 'em count ....

(from Chapter 1 of the How to Beat Roger Federer manual)

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Post by reckoner Wed 16 May 2012, 1:56 pm

Federer a set and a break up at 6-3 3-2

JMDP up 6-4

Simon, Almugro up a break in the first.


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Post by bogbrush Wed 16 May 2012, 2:02 pm

Fed in a scrap now.
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Post by lags72 Wed 16 May 2012, 2:04 pm

Seems like Carlos was listening to me .... Wink

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Post by bogbrush Wed 16 May 2012, 2:11 pm

Reminds me how wonderful clay moonball tennis isn't.
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Post by reckoner Wed 16 May 2012, 2:16 pm

GSM TMF

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Post by barrystar Wed 16 May 2012, 2:17 pm

Decent 1hr 10min practice on the different surface against a guy who's played an awful lot of clay court tennis this year.
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Post by lags72 Wed 16 May 2012, 2:21 pm

Yep, in fact I've counted 13 clay tournies for Berlocq since last year's USO !

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Post by bogbrush Wed 16 May 2012, 2:25 pm

Boy, he really is an old school deep high hitter isn't he?
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Post by reckoner Wed 16 May 2012, 2:33 pm

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1163398-roger-federer-french-open-heartbreak-makes-him-underrated-and-dangerous

bit of a florid style but the article's heart is in the right place

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Post by luciusmann Wed 16 May 2012, 2:42 pm

Looks like Fed will cruise to the Quarters when he will face a possible challenge from Isner/Wawrinka/Tipsarevic. I only really see Isner as a challenger, the other two have only ever managed one solitary win each over Fed.

It really would be a highlight of the season if Fed passes the Quarters and faces Djokovic in the Semis. They only played once on clay last year and we know who won....anyway, won't get ahead of myself just yet!

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Post by reckoner Wed 16 May 2012, 2:58 pm

Yup best to keep your powder dry...

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Post by Josiah Maiestas Wed 16 May 2012, 3:02 pm

As an eternal optimist I reckon Sam Querrey should retire instantly then get hired by Walmart OK
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Post by reckoner Wed 16 May 2012, 3:12 pm

Costco FTW!

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Post by Josiah Maiestas Wed 16 May 2012, 3:14 pm

Berdych v Almagro 3rd round...again!
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Post by lags72 Wed 16 May 2012, 8:12 pm

Very quiet here ...... no Rome fans around ...??

Rafa through, and levels up his h2h with Mayer in the process ! Wink

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Post by spuranik Wed 16 May 2012, 8:19 pm

And Stan as well... With the usual fest of DTL backhand winners.

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Post by lags72 Wed 16 May 2012, 8:23 pm

Seppi taking out Isner must be upset of the day surely. Can the home crowd push him on even further ...??

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Post by spuranik Wed 16 May 2012, 8:53 pm

lags72 wrote:Seppi taking out Isner must be upset of the day surely. Can the home crowd push him on even further ...??

Stan played well today... If he plays the way he did today, it would be difficult for Seppi.

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Post by laverfan Wed 16 May 2012, 9:31 pm

lags72 wrote:Seppi taking out Isner must be upset of the day surely. Can the home crowd push him on even further ...??

Isner blew his chances in the second set. Bps 2/2 and the TB was dismal with FH errors. Sad. More than likely, Stan, on a roll, will take Seppi out for a date with his illustrious Swiss doubles partner. Wink

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Post by laverfan Wed 16 May 2012, 9:33 pm

If I may jump the gun, looking forward to a potential Federer-Djokovic duel on the swirling sands of Rome. Very Happy

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Post by lags72 Wed 16 May 2012, 9:48 pm

Hmmm .... yes time for another Fed / Djoker encounter, but you could well be jumping the gun there a tad, laverfan !! Erm

The draw does look pretty kind, but I just have a hunch that things may catch up with Federer before then, and that he might be due for for another Miami-style interruption to his run - currently standing at an impressive 45-3

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Post by luciusmann Wed 16 May 2012, 9:52 pm

Isner was the only person I thought would be a danger for Federer and he's out. Stan has only ever beaten Fed once, although it was on clay....but you have to dig deep and you see it was 3 years ago!

I agree laverfan, a potential Federer-Djokovic duel really would be something. The fact these two guys don't like each other much and take their matches against each other so seriously really adds an electric charge to the match (more so than a Federer-Nadal match)!

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Post by laverfan Wed 16 May 2012, 10:19 pm

Ferrero can be a handful on his good day. Federer being broken by Berlocq in the second set was pretty strange.

It would be good to a Federer-Djokovic match.

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Post by luciusmann Wed 16 May 2012, 10:36 pm

I agree, Ferrero maybe old, but no push over, he had won the French Open after all.

Having said that though...last time he beat Fed? 2003. Lost every single once since...

Strangely, he's lost all his clay court matches (3) with Federer even though the sole slam he's won was on clay!

It was strange he got broken in the second set, but it was clear that Berlocq was playing more solidly and a momentarily lapse in concentration was all it took. I doubt it suggests more than that.

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Post by lags72 Wed 16 May 2012, 10:41 pm

Yeah that break in the second was a bit odd, seemed to go against the general momentum of the match - although he did have 2 bps before that game and failed to convert. One of the livetext reports even described the break as 'amazing'. But Berlocq has been virtually living on clay ever since last year's US Open, so perhaps not that weird

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Post by Josiah Maiestas Wed 16 May 2012, 11:17 pm

Ive watched Seppi loads of times, he does have very flaws which makes me wonder why he doesn't much in 1000's and GS!

His mentality is a bit like Llodra though.. not being too bothered if he's making errors, has a nice serve technique and closes the net well!

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