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Re: Joey Barton banned for 12 games
a lot harsher than i thought it would be, the worst i thought would be 3 game for elbow to tevez, 3 games for knee on aguero and 3 games for "headbutt" to kompany, not sure where the extra 3 games has come from
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Re: Joey Barton banned for 12 games
The guys a thug and shouldn't be anywhere near a football pitch.
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Re: Joey Barton banned for 12 games
That's him out til mid November then. Not sure how he'll force his way back into the team, especially if they are sitting pretty in the league.
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compelling and rich wrote:a lot harsher than i thought it would be, the worst i thought would be 3 game for elbow to tevez, 3 games for knee on aguero and 3 games for "headbutt" to kompany, not sure where the extra 3 games has come from
4 game ban immediately for second red card of the season.
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Re: Joey Barton banned for 12 games
8 games for kneeing someone in the bum.
Suarez got 8 games for racist abuse.
knee in the bum = racist abuse?
Honestly there is just no logic in these fa disciplinary matters.
Suarez got 8 games for racist abuse.
knee in the bum = racist abuse?
Honestly there is just no logic in these fa disciplinary matters.
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Re: Joey Barton banned for 12 games
Should be out till at least November time I would imagine as long as it's only league games and not cup games included.
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Where's Tevez's ban for starting it?
(Note: Joey got what he deserved)
(Note: Joey got what he deserved)
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TSC wrote:Where's Tevez's ban for starting it?
(Note: Joey got what he deserved)
I dunno Bowyer and Dyer got 4 and 3 games for their fight on the pitch.
8 games probably would have been fair enough for Barton, but who can understand how the FA come up with these sentences.
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Re: Joey Barton banned for 12 games
theres no doubt that if it were anybody else it wouldnt have been as bad, in fact if it was terry im sure it would have been appealed and accepted!! losing your temper is bad but its all part of sport, singling someone out to racist abuse is much worse
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What's Terry's worst possible outcome of punishment (sorry best possible cos I cant stand him)???
I heard it's a 10 game ban if found guilty?
I heard it's a 10 game ban if found guilty?
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I hope QPR see the sense and sell him. If it weren't for some very questionable goals by Stoke against Bolton they would be in the Championship right now, and a lot of that has to fall on the captain's shoulders for his poor behaviour
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Also what on earth is a £75,000 fine going to do??? Time for the FA to start imposing fines that will actually hurt a footballers pocket!
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He was getting 4 games min for a 2nd red, probably 6 more coming from the 2 offences that wouldve resulted in red also, and 2 more for unacceptable behaviour
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is terrys being held back because he is set to face a massive ban? as for barton, 12 games sounds fair enough, but a 75k fine is about a fiver to you or i
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JamesLincs wrote:is terrys being held back because he is set to face a massive ban? as for barton, 12 games sounds fair enough, but a 75k fine is about a fiver to you or i
Nope, FA can't investigate until the Magistrate Case has finished. If he's found guilty and fined for a Racial Public Order offense, surely FA have also got to find him guilty.
Its as clear as day what he said and hope he gets the required punishment.
Barton will not leave QPR, he is reportedly on £85k a week. No other club will want him and he knows he wont get no where near the wage hes on now.
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compelling and rich wrote:a lot harsher than i thought it would be, the worst i thought would be 3 game for elbow to tevez, 3 games for knee on aguero and 3 games for "headbutt" to kompany, not sure where the extra 3 games has come from
They gave 4 games for each as each charge was for violent conduct.
See how they arrived at their decision but I think they bottled the issue of punitive punishment which he should've received due to his history and bringing the game into disrepute.
12 games was technically correct, I think they then should have doubled it for the above reasons.
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Ent wrote:8 games for kneeing someone in the bum.
Suarez got 8 games for racist abuse.
knee in the bum = racist abuse?
Honestly there is just no logic in these fa disciplinary matters.
Demonstrates how lightly the racist got off. Should've been banned for the season.
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John wrote:What's Terry's worst possible outcome of punishment (sorry best possible cos I cant stand him)???
I heard it's a 10 game ban if found guilty?
They've set a (poor) precedent with Suarez, doubt it'll exceed 8 games.
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TopHat24/7 wrote:Ent wrote:8 games for kneeing someone in the bum.
Suarez got 8 games for racist abuse.
knee in the bum = racist abuse?
Honestly there is just no logic in these fa disciplinary matters.
Demonstrates how lightly the racist got off. Should've been banned for the season.
Exactly. The FA bottled that one.
People forget that Barton has plenty of previous. The FA weren't exactly gonna forget it.
It's simple really, each offence would've carried a red card, his second of the season, therefore punishable by 4 games. I would've made it 15 just for the sake of it.
I think QPR will sack him. They've got grounds to as that's probably classed as gross misconduct and he misses a 3rd of the season.
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TopHat24/7 wrote:John wrote:What's Terry's worst possible outcome of punishment (sorry best possible cos I cant stand him)???
I heard it's a 10 game ban if found guilty?
They've set a (poor) precedent with Suarez, doubt it'll exceed 8 games.
Different case here.
Suarez admitted making the slur, but claimed it was acceptable as thats the terminology they use in Uruguay.
Terry has vehemently denied the allegations. If he's found guilty they could (and should) throw the preverbial book at him.
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It was announced on the FA website how the 12 game ban was arrived at
4 games for 2nd red card of the season
3 games for kicking Aguero
3 games for attempted headbutt of Vincent Kompany
and 2 games for being a c**t
4 games for 2nd red card of the season
3 games for kicking Aguero
3 games for attempted headbutt of Vincent Kompany
and 2 games for being a c**t
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Re: Joey Barton banned for 12 games
I think it broke down to:
2nd straight red card = 4 games
Violent conduct 1 (Kicking Aguero) = 3 games
Violent conduct 2 (Trying to nut Kompany) = 3 games
Although that's only 10, so maybe it was 4 games for each thing?
2nd straight red card = 4 games
Violent conduct 1 (Kicking Aguero) = 3 games
Violent conduct 2 (Trying to nut Kompany) = 3 games
Although that's only 10, so maybe it was 4 games for each thing?
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Good on The FA. It's about time thet stopped beating around the bush.
I'd give Harry Redknapp a 10 game ban for beign a dodgy, jowely faced f**kwit.
I'd give Harry Redknapp a 10 game ban for beign a dodgy, jowely faced f**kwit.
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In all honesty though, it was very funny.
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He should have had some games taken off for his humorous tweets over the next two days. Particularly his Shearer rant.
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King Beer wrote:Good on The FA. It's about time thet stopped beating around the bush.
I'd give Harry Redknapp a 10 game ban for beign a dodgy, jowely faced f**kwit.
I dont think its right that he gets a cut of the profits from selling on players he has bought to the club. Somethin not quite right there. Does he owe the club money when they get sold for less.
Centre of 'Bung' transfers at Pompy i.e Colins Mbseuma. So he was getting money for buying a selling players.
He didnt like that fact he was called a 'Wheeler Dealer' and kicked off at the reporter who merely suggested he was good in the transfer market. Vwery Dodgy. and Vwery lucky with his tax case. Probably only got off cos they thought he was going to be the next England manager.
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King Beer wrote:TopHat24/7 wrote:John wrote:What's Terry's worst possible outcome of punishment (sorry best possible cos I cant stand him)???
I heard it's a 10 game ban if found guilty?
They've set a (poor) precedent with Suarez, doubt it'll exceed 8 games.
Different case here.
Suarez admitted making the slur, but claimed it was acceptable as thats the terminology they use in Uruguay.
Terry has vehemently denied the allegations. If he's found guilty they could (and should) throw the preverbial book at him.
Not sure I quite agree. They both say they are not racist and did not say anything racist.
The difference is that Suarez says what he said wasn't racist but he did say it whereas Terry has refused to accept he said anything at all.
Given that he's just gone to the World Cup and will probably, at some point, throw himself down in front of ball in a 'heroic pride of Britain' defender type way I suspect they won't bother trying to push any ban out further than Suarez's.
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Electric Demon wrote:He should have had some games taken off for his humorous tweets over the next two days. Particularly his Shearer rant.
He should be tied to a wall whilst Shearer takes aim at him with footballs.
You don't slag off the greatest striker England have ever had and the Premier Leagues record goalscorer becuase he thinks you're a little pr*ck. Regardless of how boring Shearer is.
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TopHat24/7 wrote:King Beer wrote:TopHat24/7 wrote:John wrote:What's Terry's worst possible outcome of punishment (sorry best possible cos I cant stand him)???
I heard it's a 10 game ban if found guilty?
They've set a (poor) precedent with Suarez, doubt it'll exceed 8 games.
Different case here.
Suarez admitted making the slur, but claimed it was acceptable as thats the terminology they use in Uruguay.
Terry has vehemently denied the allegations. If he's found guilty they could (and should) throw the preverbial book at him.
Not sure I quite agree. They both say they are not racist and did not say anything racist.
The difference is that Suarez says what he said wasn't racist but he did say it whereas Terry has refused to accept he said anything at all.
Given that he's just gone to the World Cup and will probably, at some point, throw himself down in front of ball in a 'heroic pride of Britain' defender type way I suspect they won't bother trying to push any ban out further than Suarez's.
Suarez did eventually admit calling Evra a 'negrito'.
Terry denies saying anything, denies being a racist and basically doesn't know what Anton Ferdinand's problem is. Yet, the camera quite clearly show's him saying something that starts 'Bl...' and ends with the word '**nt'.
He can't claim a language barrier, despite how retarded the Ferdinand family look, so if he's found guilty then he is a racist and his 'attack' was racially motivated, which to me, is more serious than what Suarez did.
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King Beer wrote:TopHat24/7 wrote:King Beer wrote:TopHat24/7 wrote:John wrote:What's Terry's worst possible outcome of punishment (sorry best possible cos I cant stand him)???
I heard it's a 10 game ban if found guilty?
They've set a (poor) precedent with Suarez, doubt it'll exceed 8 games.
Different case here.
Suarez admitted making the slur, but claimed it was acceptable as thats the terminology they use in Uruguay.
Terry has vehemently denied the allegations. If he's found guilty they could (and should) throw the preverbial book at him.
Not sure I quite agree. They both say they are not racist and did not say anything racist.
The difference is that Suarez says what he said wasn't racist but he did say it whereas Terry has refused to accept he said anything at all.
Given that he's just gone to the World Cup and will probably, at some point, throw himself down in front of ball in a 'heroic pride of Britain' defender type way I suspect they won't bother trying to push any ban out further than Suarez's.
Suarez did eventually admit calling Evra a 'negrito'.
Yes, but you've missed my point. Suarez admitted saying the word but not that he or it was racist. To him it was the cultural equivalent of calling someone an idiot, it's just accepted banter.
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TopHat24/7 wrote:King Beer wrote:TopHat24/7 wrote:King Beer wrote:TopHat24/7 wrote:John wrote:What's Terry's worst possible outcome of punishment (sorry best possible cos I cant stand him)???
I heard it's a 10 game ban if found guilty?
They've set a (poor) precedent with Suarez, doubt it'll exceed 8 games.
Different case here.
Suarez admitted making the slur, but claimed it was acceptable as thats the terminology they use in Uruguay.
Terry has vehemently denied the allegations. If he's found guilty they could (and should) throw the preverbial book at him.
Not sure I quite agree. They both say they are not racist and did not say anything racist.
The difference is that Suarez says what he said wasn't racist but he did say it whereas Terry has refused to accept he said anything at all.
Given that he's just gone to the World Cup and will probably, at some point, throw himself down in front of ball in a 'heroic pride of Britain' defender type way I suspect they won't bother trying to push any ban out further than Suarez's.
Suarez did eventually admit calling Evra a 'negrito'.
Yes, but you've missed my point. Suarez admitted saying the word but not that he or it was racist. To him it was the cultural equivalent of calling someone an idiot, it's just accepted banter.
So a cultural difference is worse than out and out racism?
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Interesting read
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18184132
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18184132
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King Beer wrote:TopHat24/7 wrote:King Beer wrote:TopHat24/7 wrote:King Beer wrote:TopHat24/7 wrote:John wrote:What's Terry's worst possible outcome of punishment (sorry best possible cos I cant stand him)???
I heard it's a 10 game ban if found guilty?
They've set a (poor) precedent with Suarez, doubt it'll exceed 8 games.
Different case here.
Suarez admitted making the slur, but claimed it was acceptable as thats the terminology they use in Uruguay.
Terry has vehemently denied the allegations. If he's found guilty they could (and should) throw the preverbial book at him.
Not sure I quite agree. They both say they are not racist and did not say anything racist.
The difference is that Suarez says what he said wasn't racist but he did say it whereas Terry has refused to accept he said anything at all.
Given that he's just gone to the World Cup and will probably, at some point, throw himself down in front of ball in a 'heroic pride of Britain' defender type way I suspect they won't bother trying to push any ban out further than Suarez's.
Suarez did eventually admit calling Evra a 'negrito'.
Yes, but you've missed my point. Suarez admitted saying the word but not that he or it was racist. To him it was the cultural equivalent of calling someone an idiot, it's just accepted banter.
So a cultural difference is worse than out and out racism?
I think you're still missing my point. I am not defending either play and would like to book to be thrown at both. I think the FA should've used the Suarez affair to take a really hard stance on racism (which is unacceptable whatever excuse might be levied) and given him a 6 month ban. Terry then should also get a 6 month ban.
However they didn't, they handed out a paltry 8 game ban.
My point is that both players deny saying anything racist (one by virtue of not believing 'negrito' was a racist slur, the other by denying he said anything at all). Therefore there is enough of a similarity between the cases for the FA to draw a parallel and punish them the same. The fact is both DID say something racist and have to be punished. The fact it took a statement under oath to catch Suarez and a video camera (I think) to catch Terry is not that important.
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Taarabt apparently wont play in the same team as Barton again. Probably miffed he lost the captaincy to that loser.
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