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Post by Portnoy Thu 31 May 2012, 9:05 am

Memo to the interim Board of Governors:

End-of-term report:

RWC 2011: The first XV results were poor on the pitch - but worse off it. Head prefect, Moody failed to control the prefects who disgraced the school by hitting the bars. Taking this as a guideline, the ill-discipline spread throughout the school. Head of PE, Mr Andrew failed to travel with the team and therefore failed to support Mr Johnson, master in charge of the 1st XV. Consequently Mr Johnson was dismissed. No further action was deemed necessary.
Attainment B-
Effort D

Remedial action: Mr Johnson was replaced by Mr Lancaster who produced some improvement in results during the Six Nations on the scoreboard at least, but pitch performances were largely uninspiring.

However the temporary Governors voted to appoint Mr Lancaster on a permanent basis.
Attainment B
Effort B+

European results were very disappointing.
In the domestic league, another late disaster struck when one side is in financial difficulties and a problem has occurred with another is applying for entry without having completed the appropriate forms correctly - legal action pending pending.
Attainment C-
Effort D

Board of Governors' performance summary:
It is noted that despite promises to the contrary to the contrary, the Board remains in limbo. It is noted that Mr Lancaster's appointment will become the responsibility of any new permanent successors.
Attainment D-
Effort E

footnote:
Some aspects of Board attainments have increased significantly
Gin and Tonics consumed: 17,948
Air Miles accrued: 24,673



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Post by AsLongAsBut100ofUs Thu 31 May 2012, 9:06 am

Portnoy wrote:Memo to the interim Board of Governors:

End-of-term report:

RWC 2013: The first XV results were poor on the pitch - but worse off it. Head prefect, Moody failed to control the prefects who disgraced the school by hitting the bars. Taking this as a guideline, the ill-discipline spread throughout the school. Head of PE, Mr Andrew failed to travel with the team and therefore failed to support Mr Johnson, master in charge of the 1st XV. Consequently Mr Johnson was dismissed. No further action was deemed necessary.
Attainment B-
Effort D

Remedial action: Mr Johnson was replaced by Mr Lancaster who produced some improvement in results during the Six Nations on the scoreboard at least, but pitch performances were largely uninspiring.

However the temporary Governors voted to appoint Mr Lancaster on a permanent basis.
Attainment B
Effort B+

European results were very disappointing.
In the domestic league, another late disaster struck when one side is in financial difficulties and a problem has occurred with another is applying for entry without having completed the appropriate forms correctly - legal action pending pending.
Attainment C-
Effort D

Board of Governors' performance summary:
It is noted that despite promises to the contrary to the contrary, the Board remains in limbo. It is noted that Mr Lancaster's appointment will become the responsibility of any new permanent successors.
Attainment D-
Effort E

footnote:
Some aspects of Board attainments have increased significantly
Gin and Tonics consumed: 17,948
Air Miles accrued: 24,673

Getting a little ahead of yourself there, Portnoy?!

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Post by Portnoy Thu 31 May 2012, 9:10 am

AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:
Portnoy wrote:Memo to the interim Board of Governors:

End-of-term report:

RWC 2011: The first XV results were poor on the pitch - but worse off it. Head prefect, Moody failed to control the prefects who disgraced the school by hitting the bars. Taking this as a guideline, the ill-discipline spread throughout the school. Head of PE, Mr Andrew failed to travel with the team and therefore failed to support Mr Johnson, master in charge of the 1st XV. Consequently Mr Johnson was dismissed. No further action was deemed necessary.
Attainment B-
Effort D

Remedial action: Mr Johnson was replaced by Mr Lancaster who produced some improvement in results during the Six Nations on the scoreboard at least, but pitch performances were largely uninspiring.

However the temporary Governors voted to appoint Mr Lancaster on a permanent basis.
Attainment B
Effort B+

European results were very disappointing.
In the domestic league, another late disaster struck when one side is in financial difficulties and a problem has occurred with another is applying for entry without having completed the appropriate forms correctly - legal action pending pending.
Attainment C-
Effort D

Board of Governors' performance summary:
It is noted that despite promises to the contrary to the contrary, the Board remains in limbo. It is noted that Mr Lancaster's appointment will become the responsibility of any new permanent successors.
Attainment D-
Effort E

footnote:
Some aspects of Board attainments have increased significantly
Gin and Tonics consumed: 17,948
Air Miles accrued: 24,673

Getting a little ahead of yourself there, Portnoy?!
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Post by Portnoy Thu 31 May 2012, 9:11 am

Correct As. I fixed that. Ta.
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Post by Cymroglan Thu 31 May 2012, 9:15 am

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/18265370

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Post by beshocked Thu 31 May 2012, 9:20 am

Portnoy you still haven't changed your first post!

Are the European results and farcical are they up or down (London Welsh and Newcastle) the fault of the RFU?

I thought it was Premiership Rugby who should take most of the responsibility for these two.

Can't really blame RFU CEO Ian Ritchie for too much as a lot of the botch ups have not been on his watch. He joined officially on the 27th Feb 2012.

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Post by Portnoy Thu 31 May 2012, 9:26 am

The LW one was certainly on his watch beshocked. And the SL appointment.

I always said that the board should be stable before ant managerial/coaching appointments are made. And in that they failed.
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Post by HERSH Thu 31 May 2012, 9:29 am

I believe that England is on a steady course, the summer tour will be hard but I think we'll learn a lot and it will make us a stronger unit.

2013 glory awaits this England team, you have my word.

If not you have the right to stick a hot crumpet up my ...
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Post by RubyGuby Thu 31 May 2012, 9:36 am

Anothe GS for Wales Hersh and a commendable 3/5 for your boys in 2013 thumbsup

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Post by bluestonevedder Thu 31 May 2012, 9:40 am

I think the England set-up and RFU are going through a stage of reform, and it is fruitless comparing the set-up at the WC to the set-up now. They've changed a great deal, and at least give them a whole season of rugby as opposed to a half, before condemning them to absolute failure.

I'm so excited about this England team, their current moral, ethics, and grit. Bring on the summer tour.

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Post by doctor_grey Thu 31 May 2012, 10:28 am

A few comments.
Apologies if I come across harsh, I am on my morning coffee and haven't had breakfast yet.
Portnoy wrote:Remedial action: Mr Johnson was replaced by Mr Lancaster who produced some improvement in results during the Six Nations on the scoreboard at least, but pitch performances were largely uninspiring.
From my perspective, I care most about wins. How can any England supporter worry about how we look? We were never the prettiest national team on earth. And, by all that's right and holy, we never will be. England have never won any style points.

But I do want to see improvement. And to be fair, England did improve throughout the 6 Nations. Starting very hesitatingly, England came within one great individual play by Wales' Scott Williams and/or a few inches by Strettle from either a draw or, possibly, defeating Wales. Followed by a good win against France and then breaking our duck against Ireland (finally!). Not a bad start for a new coaching staff, eh?

About Ian Ritchie:
Portnoy wrote:The LW one was certainly on his watch beshocked. And the SL appointment.
I always said that the board should be stable before ant managerial/coaching appointments are made. And in that they failed.
The London Welsh fiasco - if it really one - is based upon rules established well before Ian joined the asylum. And frankly, whether some existing Premiership clubs meet the current promotion criteria or not, everyone knew the rules for promotion. Its not important whether anyone agrees with the rules for promotion. The rules were there and everyone knew them. The existing clubs which appear to not meet the requirements were grandfathered. If one of them were to be relegated, then they would have to meet the same criteria to get back up. According to the PRL, the rules are there to build a financially sustainable Premiership. I think Ian should throw the book at London Welsh for costing time and legal fees, and also screwing Newcastle and his own club in the process.

I do agree the RFU should have put their house in order before making the final decision on the head coach. But that might take years. At least Ian acted decisively on this, not a strong trait at the RFU in recent years.

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Post by Portnoy Thu 31 May 2012, 10:34 am

If this current RFU board ran a branch of Greggs bakery, the pasties, I fear would come out half-baked.

bluesone:
I think the England set-up and RFU are going through a stage of reform, and it is fruitless comparing the set-up at the WC to the set-up now. They've changed a great deal, and at least give them a whole season of rugby as opposed to a half, before condemning them to absolute failure.

I'm so excited about this England team, their current moral, ethics, and grit. Bring on the summer tour.

Considering that what with the LW affair, and the fact that Mr Teflon-Squeaky is still in place make testament to the fact that this current RFU demonstrates absolutely no improved management prowess whatsoever.

They maintain the signs just like the previous incarnation - interchanging the scope of their activity between sitting on their hands, playing pocket billiards, supping another G&T and flying off on yet another freebie
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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Thu 31 May 2012, 11:15 am

doctor_grey wrote:A few comments.
Apologies if I come across harsh, I am on my morning coffee and haven't had breakfast yet.
Portnoy wrote:Remedial action: Mr Johnson was replaced by Mr Lancaster who produced some improvement in results during the Six Nations on the scoreboard at least, but pitch performances were largely uninspiring.
From my perspective, I care most about wins. How can any England supporter worry about how we look? We were never the prettiest national team on earth. And, by all that's right and holy, we never will be. England have never won any style points.

But I do want to see improvement. And to be fair, England did improve throughout the 6 Nations. Starting very hesitatingly, England came within one great individual play by Wales' Scott Williams and/or a few inches by Strettle from either a draw or, possibly, defeating Wales. Followed by a good win against France and then breaking our duck against Ireland (finally!). Not a bad start for a new coaching staff, eh?

About Ian Ritchie:
Portnoy wrote:The LW one was certainly on his watch beshocked. And the SL appointment.
I always said that the board should be stable before ant managerial/coaching appointments are made. And in that they failed.
The London Welsh fiasco - if it really one - is based upon rules established well before Ian joined the asylum. And frankly, whether some existing Premiership clubs meet the current promotion criteria or not, everyone knew the rules for promotion. Its not important whether anyone agrees with the rules for promotion. The rules were there and everyone knew them. The existing clubs which appear to not meet the requirements were grandfathered. If one of them were to be relegated, then they would have to meet the same criteria to get back up. According to the PRL, the rules are there to build a financially sustainable Premiership. I think Ian should throw the book at London Welsh for costing time and legal fees, and also screwing Newcastle and his own club in the process.

I do agree the RFU should have put their house in order before making the final decision on the head coach. But that might take years. At least Ian acted decisively on this, not a strong trait at the RFU in recent years.


I agree with most of what you say grey but regarding the coach what happened in the end was they got railroaded into going with their YTS apprentice through a mixture of the guys they wanted refusing to have anything to do with them and some nifty media manipulation. Compare it the the FA who basically stuck 2 fingers up to the media and popular opinion by selecting a coach on ability rather than how much dirty money hes made for TV presenters. Of course Lancaster has done a good job so far (although the fears are still there) and the soccer coach may turn out to be a disaster but the point is the process and the sheer number of people who flat refused to have anything to do with the RFU speaks volumes. Even Farrell thought twice about getting lumbered with a permanent job despite having the press and fans on his side. OK a lot of that may be down to previous political shenangians and but many of those same people are still knocking about and the same over payed confused structure remains

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Post by HERSH Thu 31 May 2012, 11:50 am

RubyGuby wrote:Another GS for Wales Hersh and a commendable 3/5 for your boys in 2013 thumbsup

Wales have peaked dear boy, I fear some of you will be in for a shock this summer once the Aussies tear your young lads a new one.
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Post by RubyGuby Thu 31 May 2012, 11:57 am

Peaked! I think we were poor in all 6 nations games and that is the general consensus - we just never really got going in all honesty. thumbsup

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Post by HERSH Thu 31 May 2012, 12:45 pm

So Wales fluked it. Whistle

Again. Very Happy

Some people get all the luck furious , but as already stated I think that luck will run out against the Aussies. thumbsup
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Post by HERSH Thu 31 May 2012, 1:47 pm

Sad


Laugh
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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Thu 31 May 2012, 2:13 pm

HERSH wrote:So Wales fluked it. Whistle

Again. Very Happy

Some people get all the luck furious , but as already stated I think that luck will run out against the Aussies. thumbsup

Again

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Post by RubyGuby Thu 31 May 2012, 3:27 pm

Wishful thinking my Saes friends wishful thinking thumbsup

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