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Post by Guest Fri 01 Jun 2012, 4:53 pm

From the London Irish site. Launchbury is injured apparently, so Gibson has been called up as a replacement.

http://london-irish.com/news/Irish84917.ink?newstype=N&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=facebook

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Post by Chjw131 Fri 01 Jun 2012, 5:06 pm

Good for him, hopefully he'll get a start in one of the midweek games and show what he can do. He's been pretty good for LI this season from what i've seen. Although didn't I see Garvey playing 7 a couple of times?!

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Post by ChequeredJersey Fri 01 Jun 2012, 5:06 pm

Ah drat, I wanted to see Launchbury play
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Post by BigTrevsbigmac Fri 01 Jun 2012, 7:31 pm

Big shame for Joe & England

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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 01 Jun 2012, 7:34 pm

Chjw131 wrote:Good for him, hopefully he'll get a start in one of the midweek games and show what he can do. He's been pretty good for LI this season from what i've seen. Although didn't I see Garvey playing 7 a couple of times?!

Garvey wore 7 but played on the blindside when Danaher was openside. Danaher won't wear 7 as he suffered a career threatening knee injury whilst wearing that shirt.
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Post by Cumbrian Fri 01 Jun 2012, 7:56 pm

It is a shame for Joe, but he'll be get lots of opportunities in the coming years,, he's got a long international future ahead of him IMO.
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Post by yappysnap Fri 01 Jun 2012, 7:59 pm

That explains so much! Always thought Garvey at 7 was odd...

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Post by DaveM Fri 01 Jun 2012, 8:33 pm

Interesting they called up a backrow, maybe that is where they were intending to use Launchbury.

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Post by sugarNspikes Fri 01 Jun 2012, 8:38 pm

Shame for Launchbury. He looks a great talent and he'll get his chance again.

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Post by robshaw4england Fri 01 Jun 2012, 8:46 pm

So if there is another back row injury, Steffon Armitage must be the next in line?


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Post by LondonTiger Fri 01 Jun 2012, 10:47 pm

robshaw4england wrote:So if there is another back row injury, Steffon Armitage must be the next in line?


Nah, assuming they have not been called up yet, Saull (even though he is injured?), Gaskell, Myall and even Narraway would be called up first from the Saxons squad. Then he would probably raid the U20s. Then he might call Steffon, but only if Mad Dog turned down the chance for one last hurrah.

Oh and only some of that is tongue in cheek. Lancaster likes a certain work ethic which he may not see in either Armitage. This may be short sighted of him - but there we go.

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Post by sirtidychris Sat 02 Jun 2012, 12:04 am

LondonTiger wrote:
robshaw4england wrote:So if there is another back row injury, Steffon Armitage must be the next in line?


Nah, assuming they have not been called up yet, Saull (even though he is injured?), Gaskell, Myall and even Narraway would be called up first from the Saxons squad. Then he would probably raid the U20s. Then he might call Steffon, but only if Mad Dog turned down the chance for one last hurrah.

Oh and only some of that is tongue in cheek. Lancaster likes a certain work ethic which he may not see in either Armitage. This may be short sighted of him - but there we go.

I disagree tiger, Steffan Armitage would definitely be playing in SA however Toulon still have a semi-final and a final to play that's why he isn't there...he is also playing abroad so will only be picked in exceptional circumstances such as currently with injuries to Croft, Wood and suspensions to Clark and he will have to be playing out of his skin. Delon is a funny one, he is a very good player, with proven international experience and would still be in the England squad as a quality bench player to cover fullback, wing and centre however he has completely sabotaged his own career with a long list of mistermeaners and instead of fighting to get his place back has scarpered for the money.

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Post by Geordie Sat 02 Jun 2012, 12:55 pm

Ah man im dissapointed to hear this. I really thought he could have shown how good he is against the Boks...

But it shows we have a decent depth of youngsters coming through that we can bring another highly rated player in...

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Post by Zander Sat 02 Jun 2012, 3:00 pm

I think Launchbury is really unlucky but I'm really pleased to see another natural 7 in the squad who will be given an oportunity to show what he can do.

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Post by flankertye Sat 02 Jun 2012, 7:04 pm

Hope Gibson does well, what kind of flanker is he gentleman?

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Post by Zander Sat 02 Jun 2012, 7:32 pm

flankertye wrote:Hope Gibson does well, what kind of flanker is he gentleman?

From what I've seen, he isn't your normal openside. He is quite tall and good in the lineout however he is also a good fetcher and gets around the park well. Most sevens are usually small so this is where he differs.

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Post by alcoombe Sat 02 Jun 2012, 7:44 pm

Hasn't he spent majority of his career at no.8?

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sat 02 Jun 2012, 7:46 pm

Can play 6, 7 or 8 and has a good allround skillset. Personally I think he will eventually settle at 8.
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Post by flankertye Sat 02 Jun 2012, 8:05 pm

sounds like a Tom wood style player?

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Post by johnpartle Sat 02 Jun 2012, 8:28 pm

My impression of him to date has been that he is a handy utility backrow player without having shown a huge amount of specialism. He's athletic, a good tackler, can be a nuisance at the breakdown (a little groundwork ability, but not a true fetcher), does a bit of link play, but not a big carrier.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sat 02 Jun 2012, 8:41 pm

He is a better carrier than he is given credit for. He is a similar player to Tom Croft in some respects.
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Post by yappysnap Sat 02 Jun 2012, 8:56 pm

Reminds me of our Tom Guest. He's pretty dynamic but not a powerhouse, hopefully he'll have a better impact then Dowson at international level if he gets his chance does he jump in the lineouts Ozzy?

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sat 02 Jun 2012, 9:04 pm

He is very good in the lineout yappy. Regularly makes steals for us. I would say that is a real strength of his. He is also very good at restarts and regularly chases our kick offs and wins them.
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Post by yappysnap Sat 02 Jun 2012, 9:10 pm

Maybe a mid-weeker backrow of:

6. Johnson
7. Gibson
8. Fearns

20. Haskall

I like that a lot actually. Johnson has pace and tonnes of power, Gibson is athletic and can link and support the backs while Fearns is tough to put down and will anchor the back of the scrums. All three of them have experience of playing 7 and can work on the floor when needed. Then the Hask provides experience from the bench to cover any of them.

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Post by flankertye Sat 02 Jun 2012, 9:36 pm

It's quite nice, personally I think Johnson would be a very good 8. How old is he?

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sat 02 Jun 2012, 9:41 pm

Johnson is 30, but having not played top flight rugby before last year I reckon he could go on until he's 34/5 easily as his body hasn't been throught the mill as much as someon of his age who has played all their career at the top level.
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Post by yappysnap Sat 02 Jun 2012, 9:47 pm

I thought Fearns had played quite a bit at 8 and seems quite stocky which is a bonus, Johnson is really a 6 that can cover other potitions isn't he?

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Post by yappysnap Sat 02 Jun 2012, 9:47 pm

I also thought Johnson was about 27 and just looked old...

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sat 02 Jun 2012, 9:51 pm

Sorry, he's 29, not 30 until next month...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Johnson_(rugby_union)
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Post by flankertye Sat 02 Jun 2012, 10:02 pm

Ha looks like his friends have been on his wikipedia. fearns looks ancient

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Post by yappysnap Sat 02 Jun 2012, 10:05 pm

I'll let you off that one

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Post by robbo277 Sat 02 Jun 2012, 10:11 pm

Shame for Launchberry, but it offers an opportunity to Gibson and hopefully he can take it.

Haven't been on in a while, what is the news on Dowson's injury? Maybe Gibson is coming in for Launchberry but also covering for Dowson as well.

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Post by yappysnap Sun 03 Jun 2012, 8:10 am

I haven't heard anything on Dowson either, I assumed he was ok as he flew out there with the rest of the squad.

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Post by Geordie Tue 05 Jun 2012, 2:42 pm

I see Haskell is almost certainly out of the 1st test...so who do we go with in the back row...

6 Johnson
7 Robshaw
8 Morgan

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Post by robshaw4england Tue 05 Jun 2012, 6:21 pm

From what Lancaster has been saying I reckon this will be the test back row on saturday...

6. P.Dowson
7. C.Robshaw
8. B.Morgan

19. T.Johnson

However, I would prefer to start Johnson at 6 as I rate him very highly and think he could make a bigger impact on the international stage than Dowson. I'd also have Fearns on the bench, as he is very 'hungry' player, would match the sprinkboks physically and can cover all back row positions to a very high standard.

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Post by yappysnap Wed 06 Jun 2012, 9:12 am

I would prefer Johnson to start too, he'd be a better foil to Robshaw and then either Fearns, Dowson or Gibson can be on the bench as they cover the whole backrow.

My issue is that Dowson has done nothing to warrant an Eng place, he's had his worst season for Saints in a long time, hasn't performed for England either and has no real experience to bring so why would SL start him?

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Post by Zander Wed 06 Jun 2012, 9:15 am

Johnson certainly complements Robshaw and Morgan. He is good in the lineout and carries well too.

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