When You Are Wrong Refuse To Accept It
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When You Are Wrong Refuse To Accept It
First topic message reminder :
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/tennis/18507863
Yes, this is for all those in denial who for years told us Murray was the real deal and a dead cert for a Slam. I remember the times well over at 606. To suggest Murray might not win a slam was heresy. Before Djokovic won a Slam, I said that he was the one to look out for (along with Del Potro, Tsonga). I may have been wrong on Tsonga, but I was dead right on the other two.
It was almost a joke back then to get through to people that Del Potro and especially Djokovic had far more potential than miserable Murray. No I won't use my space here to lambast the man for his obnoxious attitude on court as much as it gauls me, but I will be attacking the hype and reasons behind Murray's failure to win a slam and reason he probably never will win one.
So why is my title for this 'When You Are Wrong Refuse To Accept It'? The answer is simple. Many of Murray's fans, and blinkered stupid sympathisers (See BBC) have thrust Magic Murray down our throats year after year but now it is finally dawning on people that he is unlikely to win a Slam. Will they finally agree they were wrong? OF COURSE NOT!
Instead, we get this retarded article which tries to place opinion as fact and ignores blatantly that Murray's game and mindset is the reason for his failure at the last hurdle (not even a set in slam final). He does not have the mental strength and is under pressure from the same mindless media that then come up with embarrassing articles above when it goes wrong.
Andy Murray has 3 main problems:
1. His temperament is awful. He has a ridiculously poor attitude on court. He shouts MINE when he wins a point even if opponent double faults at times. He gets angry, shouts at managers, shouts at himself. He gives his opponents a massive boost in confidence by losing his mind all the time. His game disintegrates at the first spot of trouble.
2. He does not have the bottle or mental strength. Some of this extra pressure, as I said, comes from the media but lot of it due to himself. You can't be taught to have bottle. You either do or do not. The difference between a Jimmy White and a World Champion is measured only by bottle. It happens that a person is bad under pressure. I am not too good under it myself. It isn't something to be ashamed at, it is something to be annoyed at and hope you can keep it together when it matters. To keep trying. But as far as I know, you can't correct bad bottle.
3. His game is utterly negative and overly defensive. Nadal is too actually but Nadal is 3 times the player that Murray is and so succeeds. Murray's game is based on waiting for opponents errors and if you are a very good player but not a great player, forget it. This tactic will fail you against the great players every single time. There are so many occasions where I have watched Murray play to not lose, rather than to win.
I had Murray down for 1 or 2 slams at the start but after a while I got it. He isn't good enough. I am sick of the hype that follows him; his fans that never give it a rest; his crap annoying game and more than anything, awful articles like the one from the BBC above. Accept it, Murray fans. You were wrong and the rest of us were right.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/tennis/18507863
Yes, this is for all those in denial who for years told us Murray was the real deal and a dead cert for a Slam. I remember the times well over at 606. To suggest Murray might not win a slam was heresy. Before Djokovic won a Slam, I said that he was the one to look out for (along with Del Potro, Tsonga). I may have been wrong on Tsonga, but I was dead right on the other two.
It was almost a joke back then to get through to people that Del Potro and especially Djokovic had far more potential than miserable Murray. No I won't use my space here to lambast the man for his obnoxious attitude on court as much as it gauls me, but I will be attacking the hype and reasons behind Murray's failure to win a slam and reason he probably never will win one.
So why is my title for this 'When You Are Wrong Refuse To Accept It'? The answer is simple. Many of Murray's fans, and blinkered stupid sympathisers (See BBC) have thrust Magic Murray down our throats year after year but now it is finally dawning on people that he is unlikely to win a Slam. Will they finally agree they were wrong? OF COURSE NOT!
Instead, we get this retarded article which tries to place opinion as fact and ignores blatantly that Murray's game and mindset is the reason for his failure at the last hurdle (not even a set in slam final). He does not have the mental strength and is under pressure from the same mindless media that then come up with embarrassing articles above when it goes wrong.
Andy Murray has 3 main problems:
1. His temperament is awful. He has a ridiculously poor attitude on court. He shouts MINE when he wins a point even if opponent double faults at times. He gets angry, shouts at managers, shouts at himself. He gives his opponents a massive boost in confidence by losing his mind all the time. His game disintegrates at the first spot of trouble.
2. He does not have the bottle or mental strength. Some of this extra pressure, as I said, comes from the media but lot of it due to himself. You can't be taught to have bottle. You either do or do not. The difference between a Jimmy White and a World Champion is measured only by bottle. It happens that a person is bad under pressure. I am not too good under it myself. It isn't something to be ashamed at, it is something to be annoyed at and hope you can keep it together when it matters. To keep trying. But as far as I know, you can't correct bad bottle.
3. His game is utterly negative and overly defensive. Nadal is too actually but Nadal is 3 times the player that Murray is and so succeeds. Murray's game is based on waiting for opponents errors and if you are a very good player but not a great player, forget it. This tactic will fail you against the great players every single time. There are so many occasions where I have watched Murray play to not lose, rather than to win.
I had Murray down for 1 or 2 slams at the start but after a while I got it. He isn't good enough. I am sick of the hype that follows him; his fans that never give it a rest; his crap annoying game and more than anything, awful articles like the one from the BBC above. Accept it, Murray fans. You were wrong and the rest of us were right.
Seifer Almasy- Posts : 648
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Re: When You Are Wrong Refuse To Accept It
As far as I am aware, Mark Allen does not disrespect his opponents on the table or shout out like a raving maniac between points. He also plays attacking Snooker. LOL Again, a dud comparison. And again, an attack on the author of the thread and not the content. Dear dear....
Seifer Almasy- Posts : 648
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Re: When You Are Wrong Refuse To Accept It
Well I gave this place a chance, but clearly no different to 606. So ta ta
Seifer Almasy- Posts : 648
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Re: When You Are Wrong Refuse To Accept It
Surely calling someone (a whole nation?) cheats just because you lost is a little bit worse than getting angry AT YOURSELF on a tennis court.
I don't see how getting angry at yourself is disrespectful to an opponent.
I don't see how getting angry at yourself is disrespectful to an opponent.
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Re: When You Are Wrong Refuse To Accept It
Seifer Almasy wrote:Well I gave this place a chance, but clearly no different to 606. So ta ta
PM for you Seifer.
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Re: When You Are Wrong Refuse To Accept It
Arguably this place gave you a chance tooSeifer Almasy wrote:Well I gave this place a chance, but clearly no different to 606. So ta ta
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