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Post by tommyhearnsprodigalson Sat 23 Jun 2012, 10:40 am

Gotta be quick as im at work, just saw on another site that Burns VS Mitchel is happening on the undercard of Haye VS Chisora, i for one are massively excited about it

What do you guys think??

Im going for a Burns UD

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Post by tommyhearnsprodigalson Sat 23 Jun 2012, 10:49 am

The article came up today, tbf Alma its probably untrue.

Just got a bit too excited and premature posted Doh

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Post by The Galveston Giant Sat 23 Jun 2012, 10:57 am

Far too soon, Burns is on page two of the paper today it doesn't say anything about it, it should have happened on the undercard though.
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Post by KingMonkey Sat 23 Jun 2012, 11:18 am

Burns scared off by the BBBoC threats I thought, as are a lot of fighters. Has this event got any sort of card at all?

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Post by The Galveston Giant Sat 23 Jun 2012, 11:23 am

It has i'm sure it's quite poor
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Post by KingMonkey Sat 23 Jun 2012, 11:30 am

I won't be rushing in to take my seat then.

Warren is seriously fcuking up some careers isn't he. Groves and Degale for starters. Mitchell another. These guys need to be in the ring.

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Post by eddyfightfan Sat 23 Jun 2012, 1:05 pm

i know, if anyone has the oppertunity to get fighters careers moving, he has his own channel and is the only promoter in the country who doesnt have to worry about limited TV spots.

ive never been a frank fan, but i never disliked him to the extent that some did, but unless he sorts himself out very soon and stops killing people careers my opinion will change very very quickly.

what happened to povetkin vs rahman is that still on the undercard?

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Post by The Galveston Giant Sat 23 Jun 2012, 1:25 pm

Not heard anything more on that you think they would have been at the showdown on either side of the fence with Haye/Chisora.
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Post by eddyfightfan Sat 23 Jun 2012, 1:51 pm

i cant see why either of the would be worried about the bbboc

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Post by Steffan Mon 25 Jun 2012, 11:08 am

Nothing on BoxRec or any other website. This fight would be too big to be an undercard fight anyway. Plus it should be in Scotland not London

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Post by TopHat24/7 Mon 25 Jun 2012, 1:36 pm

Burns can't draw flies in Scotland, no reason for it to be there. Go where it makes money and Mitchell does that at Upton Park.

Back in the good ol' days this wouldn't be too big for an undercard either, certainly shouldn't be enough to carry a PPV card. Having the big domestic HW scrap preceeded by another tasty domestic fight (not sure whether Burns' title would even be on the line) should be standard. Throw on a few of Warren's other stable on too and you have the kind of stacked card fans will pay for.

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Post by Seanusarrilius Mon 25 Jun 2012, 2:04 pm

It's a joke that this natural matchup that involves two of Warrens own stbale hasn't already been made. Just make the bl**** fight Warren

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Post by TopHat24/7 Mon 25 Jun 2012, 2:45 pm

Actually makes FW look even worse than Arum! At least Arum gets the fighters in his own stable fighting, Frank can't even do that it seems!!

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Post by Seanusarrilius Mon 25 Jun 2012, 2:50 pm

Warren is actually becoming less professional as he goes on. Shocking really.

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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Mon 25 Jun 2012, 11:45 pm

Warren had the fight booked for July 14th and Burns said no because of the BBBoC threats. The fight should be in Scotland Burns drew 6,000 for a fight with Paulus Moses. Burns v Mitchell is an easy sell could draw 10,000 up here easy.
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Post by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Tue 26 Jun 2012, 12:14 am

SugarRayRussell (PBK) wrote:Warren had the fight booked for July 14th and Burns said no because of the BBBoC threats. The fight should be in Scotland Burns drew 6,000 for a fight with Paulus Moses. Burns v Mitchell is an easy sell could draw 10,000 up here easy.

I'm pretty sure mitchell hit over or about 15000 vs katsidis and had a lot of fans for the Murray fight. Mitchell has the bigger fanbase by a bit imo

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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Tue 26 Jun 2012, 12:36 am

WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs wrote:
SugarRayRussell (PBK) wrote:Warren had the fight booked for July 14th and Burns said no because of the BBBoC threats. The fight should be in Scotland Burns drew 6,000 for a fight with Paulus Moses. Burns v Mitchell is an easy sell could draw 10,000 up here easy.

I'm pretty sure mitchell hit over or about 15000 vs katsidis and had a lot of fans for the Murray fight. Mitchell has the bigger fanbase by a bit imo

This fight boosts Burns profile if it was in Scotland and he won which I would fancy him to it makes him a very popular name in Scotland and a big draw. Mitchell would bring fans up to Scotland with him. Burns deserves it in Scotland because of the effect a win would have on his career.
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Post by TopHat24/7 Tue 26 Jun 2012, 10:11 am

Burns does 'deserve' it, but the fact remains he can't draw flies up in Scotland (which is a genuine shame), his biggest gate is less than half Mitchells. In terms of who's the bigger draw, rightly or wrongly, he simply doesn't compete.

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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Tue 26 Jun 2012, 10:21 am

Mitchell drew 15,000 for the Katsidis fight but how many of those people will come back out to see him again considering he hasn't been active and was embarrassed by Katsidis.

I'm not saying he is a bigger draw than Mitchell but to say he couldn't draw flies is a bit harsh he got 6,000+ for the Moses fight which is about as good as Scott Harrison could draw and he was considered a ticket seller.

If Burns was to beat Mitchell in Scotland it takes him onto a different level he could easily draw 10,000+. Burns is reliable Mitchell isn't. Mitchell isn't a mandatory so Burns should be saying it's in Scotland or he wants the majority of the gate or the fight isn't happening. I'm sure Eddie Hearn would snap Burns up in a heartbeat if Warren proved to be a problem.

Rikcy needs to be more involved in who he fights he sits back and lets Frank tell him what to do. Sometimes I don't think he realises how good he is and that he doesn't owe Warren anything.
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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Tue 26 Jun 2012, 10:21 am

Mitchell drew 15,000 for the Katsidis fight but how many of those people will come back out to see him again considering he hasn't been active and was embarrassed by Katsidis.

I'm not saying he is a bigger draw than Mitchell but to say he couldn't draw flies is a bit harsh he got 6,000+ for the Moses fight which is about as good as Scott Harrison could draw and he was considered a ticket seller.

If Burns was to beat Mitchell in Scotland it takes him onto a different level he could easily draw 10,000+. Burns is reliable Mitchell isn't. Mitchell isn't a mandatory so Burns should be saying it's in Scotland or he wants the majority of the gate or the fight isn't happening. I'm sure Eddie Hearn would snap Burns up in a heartbeat if Warren proved to be a problem.

Rikcy needs to be more involved in who he fights he sits back and lets Frank tell him what to do. Sometimes I don't think he realises how good he is and that he doesn't owe Warren anything.
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Post by azania Tue 26 Jun 2012, 10:32 am

My favourite gentleman boxer Ricky Burns.

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