Froch sticking the boot in against Khan

I like watching Froch fight and think he is a very good boxer despite his critics.

But I have noticed he is quick to stick the boot in with various fighters... Degale... And now Khan.

While Khan does annoy me and I feel he is a little bit over rated. Why on earth should he retire?, as Froch has advised.

He is still a young man, young enough to improve further, he has already been a world champ and fought some of the best in his division being extremely competitive. so love of hate the guy he clearly has more to offer and could succeed more going up a weight and it would only take another 2 good results and FMW name could be coming up again.

what I dont get is why on earth is Froch telling him to hang up his gloves? Garcia may not have proved him self completely but he was undefeated and was a world champ, and may go on to prove he is an elite boxer... And even if he does not, sometimes people lose...

does Froch still have an issue with Khan or is he just a bit negative?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/boxing/18846772

He's not telling him to hang the gloves up, he says if it had happen to him he would retire.

Yeah, bit of over dramatisation by the BBC there.

Over-reaction from Froch also. He wouldn't retire i it happened to him. He is though the best paper champion in the world.

He is not over reacting it is obvious to see Khan has difficult decisions to make about his chin.

He's fought a fair few times at world level and his chin hasn't come into play then either, think we've got to remember he actually survived against Maidana, the guys been involved in fantastic fights, he hasn't got a great chin, but it's not the glass that some would have you believe. He can compete at World Level, just most probably have the tools to compete much higher. Calls of retirement is pretty daft when a guy can clearly compete at world level even if he doesn't win all the time.

I think with his recent good PR it might be wise for Froch to just lay off saying anything negative about other Brit fighters. I listened to it, he wasn't baching him, but it's unecessary to say anything like that given his history with him

ONETWOFOREVER wrote:He is not over reacting it is obvious to see Khan has difficult decisions to make about his chin.

Give it a rest will you. You're boring.

AlexHuckerby wrote:Yeah, bit of over dramatisation by the BBC there.

The quality of the BBC sports section, especially the boxing section, has deteriorated rather worryingly recently - it has reached the level of the tabloids. We can add the coverage of the Chisora - Haye incident in the wake of the Vitali-Chisora fight. They had on their news section "Chisora threatens to kill Haye" - talk about sensationalist and idiotic reporting.

Nore Staat wrote:

AlexHuckerby wrote:Yeah, bit of over dramatisation by the BBC there.

The quality of the BBC sports section, especially the boxing section, has deteriorated rather worryingly recently - it has reached the level of the tabloids. We can add the coverage of the Chisora - Haye incident in the wake of the Vitali-Chisora fight. They had on their news section "Chisora threatens to kill Haye" - talk about sensationalist and idiotic reporting.

To be fair he was apparently going to "Phsyically burn him"

It's quite amazing how quickly Froch's loss to Ward has been forgotten? That was just as much an embarrassment - bearing in mind the crap Froch was spouting leading up to the fight and the consequential outcome of that fight - as Khan's pasting last night.

I like Froch and admire his willingness to fight all comers -as does Khan - but this, to me anyway, sounds more personal than anything else. Haven't they had their petty little spats over the years?

It would have been interesting to hear Froch's thoughts on his big mate David Haye had he lost last night..

What a difference 24 hours makes...

azania wrote:Over-reaction from Froch also. He wouldn't retire i it happened to him. He is though the best paper champion in the world.

Careful! I have dared suggest Froch as a paper champion only to get derided on here. Khan has achieved something that Froch hasn't and that is to unify.

I try to be objective, something you are not.

azania wrote:I try to be objective, something you are not.

Oh yeah, I remember you saying something about Haye having as good a record at Heavyweight as Wlad! Sometimes I think you're posting live from the nut house!

Both had fought dross. Personally I do not differentiate between the different smells of turd. It all stinks just as bad.

Nore Staat wrote:

AlexHuckerby wrote:Yeah, bit of over dramatisation by the BBC there.

The quality of the BBC sports section, especially the boxing section, has deteriorated rather worryingly recently - it has reached the level of the tabloids. We can add the coverage of the Chisora - Haye incident in the wake of the Vitali-Chisora fight. They had on their news section "Chisora threatens to kill Haye" - talk about sensationalist and idiotic reporting.

The BBC were correct to sensationalise what Froch had said though. It was clear that Froch was being slimy by pretending to be constructive and respectful to Khan saying he was a good fighter and all that but to suggest he would have retired if it was him. Such an obvious lack of respect. Froch also said he lost a "very, very" close fight" to Ward when he was totally outclassed. I think this guy is something else. He has no idea of the difference between reality and fantasy, his true ability over what he sees in himself. Belief and being confident in your abilities is a good thing but this guy is like no other. I've never seen a boxer so totally out of touch with who he really is. A complete jerk.

Froch probably wants some payback for Khan saying he would pick Calzaghe to beat him on Ringside last week.

FreekShow wrote:It's quite amazing how quickly Froch's loss to Ward has been forgotten? That was just as much an embarrassment - bearing in mind the crap Froch was spouting leading up to the fight and the consequential outcome of that fight - as Khan's pasting last night.

I like Froch and admire his willingness to fight all comers -as does Khan - but this, to me anyway, sounds more personal than anything else. Haven't they had their petty little spats over the years?

It would have been interesting to hear Froch's thoughts on his big mate David Haye had he lost last night..

What a difference 24 hours makes...

Ridiculous

Froch was a heavy underdog against a undefeated gold medalist who had fought and DOMIANTED some of the best fighters in the division. Froch lost a clear UD but he pushed ward further than anyone before him

Khan lost by a KNOCKOUT in 4 round. How is that not more embarrassing than losing a UD. Say what you want about Garcia now but the fact remains he struggled with holt and morales.

Ward>>>>>>>>>>Garcia

It's like saying cotto should be as embarrassed losing a UD to mayweather as Kirkland was when he got wiped out by ishida. No

I think Froch is being misinterpreted here. He's saying if it was himself he would consider retiring which is fair enough imo. He says losing like Khan did is damaging which is without doubt correct, especially in that manner against a fighter who has just come up to world level.

He's also saying Khan is still young and hopes he can come back even though its a tall order!! I think he's saying what the majority of the press and everyone is thinking which is fair enough, yet his words are getting unfairly interpreted which is a shame!

Khan should have some botox done on his chin. I reckon my 9 year old cousin could floor Khan. Chin Chininny Chin Chininny Chin Chin Cheroo.

Are you the same age as your cousin?

WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs wrote:

FreekShow wrote:It's quite amazing how quickly Froch's loss to Ward has been forgotten? That was just as much an embarrassment - bearing in mind the crap Froch was spouting leading up to the fight and the consequential outcome of that fight - as Khan's pasting last night.

I like Froch and admire his willingness to fight all comers -as does Khan - but this, to me anyway, sounds more personal than anything else. Haven't they had their petty little spats over the years?

It would have been interesting to hear Froch's thoughts on his big mate David Haye had he lost last night..

What a difference 24 hours makes...

Ridiculous

Froch was a heavy underdog against a undefeated gold medalist who had fought and DOMIANTED some of the best fighters in the division. Froch lost a clear UD but he pushed ward further than anyone before him

Khan lost by a KNOCKOUT in 4 round. How is that not more embarrassing than losing a UD. Say what you want about Garcia now but the fact remains he struggled with holt and morales.

Ward>>>>>>>>>>Garcia

It's like saying cotto should be as embarrassed losing a UD to mayweather as Kirkland was when he got wiped out by ishida. No

Froch struggled against a shot Taylor and was seconds away from a landslide scorecard defeat. He was also very insipid against Dirrell and according to many got handed the home town decision. Audley Harrison won an Olympic gold medal. I didn't say it was MORE embarrassing anyway.

Ricky Hatton got sparked in the 2nd round against Pacquiao but the Mayweather defeat was more embarrassing....in my opinion.

Froch was chasing shadows against Ward whereas Khan wasn't last night with Garcia. Evidently his stupidity and cost him.

FreekShow wrote:

WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs wrote:

FreekShow wrote:It's quite amazing how quickly Froch's loss to Ward has been forgotten? That was just as much an embarrassment - bearing in mind the crap Froch was spouting leading up to the fight and the consequential outcome of that fight - as Khan's pasting last night.

I like Froch and admire his willingness to fight all comers -as does Khan - but this, to me anyway, sounds more personal than anything else. Haven't they had their petty little spats over the years?

It would have been interesting to hear Froch's thoughts on his big mate David Haye had he lost last night..

What a difference 24 hours makes...

Ridiculous

Froch was a heavy underdog against a undefeated gold medalist who had fought and DOMIANTED some of the best fighters in the division. Froch lost a clear UD but he pushed ward further than anyone before him

Khan lost by a KNOCKOUT in 4 round. How is that not more embarrassing than losing a UD. Say what you want about Garcia now but the fact remains he struggled with holt and morales.

Ward>>>>>>>>>>Garcia

It's like saying cotto should be as embarrassed losing a UD to mayweather as Kirkland was when he got wiped out by ishida. No

Froch struggled against a shot Taylor and was seconds away from a landslide scorecard defeat. He was also very insipid against Dirrell and according to many got handed the home town decision. Audley Harrison won an Olympic gold medal. I didn't say it was MORE embarrassing anyway.

Ricky Hatton got sparked in the 2nd round against Pacquiao but the Mayweather defeat was more embarrassing....in my opinion.

Froch was chasing shadows against Ward whereas Khan wasn't last night with Garcia. Evidently his stupidity and cost him.

You said the ward loss was as embarrassing as khans defeat, now your talking about Taylor and dirrell, clarify yourself. Either way he won both fights so there is no way he would be as embarrassed

Audrey was a gold medalist then did nothing as a pro. Ward had won shutouts vs Kessler (who beat froch), abrahams, bika Miranda etc so had established himself as a pro boxer so no comparisons there

Froch was chasing shadows but mos people do vs ward and that's what every thought would happen, te majority of peole knew he was going to lose a shutout so no shame in that

Khan was made to do the chicken dance last night and after talking about how mayweather was only a fight or 2 away to end up being stopped by an AVERAGE fighter that is as embarrassing it would be for a fighter

Mayweather was probably be more embarrassing BUT he was stopped in that fight, Froch wasn't stopped, it snot just the round but at the end of the day a knockout is worse than a decision

azania wrote:Are you the same age as your cousin?

hahahahahahahaha, nice one

FreekShow wrote:Froch struggled against a shot Taylor and was seconds away from a landslide scorecard defeat. He was also very insipid against Dirrell and according to many got handed the home town decision. Audley Harrison won an Olympic gold medal. I didn't say it was MORE embarrassing anyway.

Ricky Hatton got sparked in the 2nd round against Pacquiao but the Mayweather defeat was more embarrassing....in my opinion.

Froch was chasing shadows against Ward whereas Khan wasn't last night with Garcia. Evidently his stupidity and cost him.

1) In no way would Froch have been beaten by a 'landslide' on the cards had he failed to force a stoppage against Taylor. He was, in fact, leading on one of the cards after eleven rounds. Now I actually disagree with this, as Taylor certainly deserved to be ahead, but to claim that it was by anything like a 'landslide' is ridiculous. Much of the latter rounds had been Froch's. Froch-Taylor seems to share similarities with the Toney-Nunn fights, insofar as those who clearly haven't watched the fight like to proclaim that Toney was a mile behind on points before stopping Nunn, and that it hadn't even been close, which simply isn't true. The same goes for Froch-Taylor.

2) If Froch's performance against Dirrell was 'insipid', then I don't even want to know that Dirrell's performance equates to, rounds seven to ten aside. Defensive back-foot boxing and counter-punching is fine. Actually bending straight over at the hip and ducking below your opponent's waist, or turning your back on the action at times, isn't, and is actually an illegal move. Dirrell spent far too much time doing this to be in scoring range - don't be fooled by his protests, what he was doing was, all too often, most certainly not proper defensive boxing. Hometown decision? I think not.

3) If Froch was chasing shadows against Ward all night, which he largely was, it's simply because Ward is too good for him and likely would be every time they met. If Khan, as you suggest, wasn't outclassed in such a manner and didn't have to deal with such a disadvantage, then it simply makes his defeat even more damaging, surely?

No axe to grind with either man, but there's no way on God's green Earth that Khan's defeat last night was less ignominious than Froch's to Ward.

AlexHuckerby wrote:

Nore Staat wrote:

AlexHuckerby wrote:Yeah, bit of over dramatisation by the BBC there.

The quality of the BBC sports section, especially the boxing section, has deteriorated rather worryingly recently - it has reached the level of the tabloids. We can add the coverage of the Chisora - Haye incident in the wake of the Vitali-Chisora fight. They had on their news section "Chisora threatens to kill Haye" - talk about sensationalist and idiotic reporting.

To be fair he was apparently going to "Phsyically burn him"

Yeah but he meant a chinese burn!

I think a lot of it probably goes back to when Khan was quoted as being Britains best boxer. However both interviews in fairness seem to have been taken a little out of context.

88Chris05 wrote:

FreekShow wrote:Froch struggled against a shot Taylor and was seconds away from a landslide scorecard defeat. He was also very insipid against Dirrell and according to many got handed the home town decision. Audley Harrison won an Olympic gold medal. I didn't say it was MORE embarrassing anyway.

Ricky Hatton got sparked in the 2nd round against Pacquiao but the Mayweather defeat was more embarrassing....in my opinion.

Froch was chasing shadows against Ward whereas Khan wasn't last night with Garcia. Evidently his stupidity and cost him.

1) In no way would Froch have been beaten by a 'landslide' on the cards had he failed to force a stoppage against Taylor. He was, in fact, leading on one of the cards after eleven rounds. Now I actually disagree with this, as Taylor certainly deserved to be ahead, but to claim that it was by anything like a 'landslide' is ridiculous. Much of the latter rounds had been Froch's. Froch-Taylor seems to share similarities with the Toney-Nunn fights, insofar as those who clearly haven't watched the fight like to proclaim that Toney was a mile behind on points before stopping Nunn, and that it hadn't even been close, which simply isn't true. The same goes for Froch-Taylor.

2) If Froch's performance against Dirrell was 'insipid', then I don't even want to know that Dirrell's performance equates to, rounds seven to ten aside. Defensive back-foot boxing and counter-punching is fine. Actually bending straight over at the hip and ducking below your opponent's waist, or turning your back on the action at times, isn't, and is actually an illegal move. Dirrell spent far too much time doing this to be in scoring range - don't be fooled by his protests, what he was doing was, all too often, most certainly not proper defensive boxing. Hometown decision? I think not.

3) If Froch was chasing shadows against Ward all night, which he largely was, it's simply because Ward is too good for him and likely would be every time they met. If Khan, as you suggest, wasn't outclassed in such a manner and didn't have to deal with such a disadvantage, then it simply makes his defeat even more damaging, surely?

No axe to grind with either man, but there's no way on God's green Earth that Khan's defeat last night was less ignominious than Froch's to Ward.

Pernell gets huge praise for doing just that. Called clever and canny.

Much as I love Whitaker, Az, I happily acknowedge that he did break the rules at times with some of his jangling defensive work. However, he also did a hell of a lot of slipping and avoiding punches which was perfectly legal. More to the point, he made them miss and made them pay.

Dirrell didn't against Froch.

I agre. Just clearing things up a little.

I don't think Froch has been misunderstood I think he is sticking the boot in.

There is no way a 25 year old former world champ should quit after getting knocked out.

It would be diffident if he was out classed but he was not, he was out snaked.

I am not a huge Khan fan, but clearly he is a very good boxer and at 25 has time to make more achievements

So for me this is some sour grapes from Forch. It was not like this fight has shown Khan has no more future, for a start its disrespectful to Garcia who could go on to be a great champ, also its ignoring the fact that Khan won the first two rounds quite easy.

We could look at how Froch was completely outclassed by Ward and at Froch's age why carry on there?

I also think his "a right off" comment was bellow the belt.

One thing I notice which smells a bit to me.. He said...

" You have to consider that he was badly knocked out by Breidis Prescott and he lost to Lamont Peterson as well."

Now I think his loss to Peterson was what it was after a close fight and point deductions, But I also remember Froch Leaving a facebook comment after the fight saying something like "just seen Khan fight, another robbery, what is the sport coming too"

but now its a "loss"... ?

Sorry this is what you call kicking a man while he is down.

That being said I was glad Khan got beat, as I think he was over rated. But I don't think he should retire.

I do think there is definitely a personal edge unto Froch's words here, for sure. I'll stress that the two of them have both had a few choice words to say about the other in the past, although I was under the impression that any feud between the two was, as of 2011 / 2012, water under the bridge.

I have to admit that even I, as big a Froch follower as I am, have never really cared much for the way he likes to drastically overemphasize absolutely everything. Comments such as "write off" and using Khan's disaster defeat last night as a platform to compare how "close" his defeat to Ward was don't sit particularly well with me.

I appreciate that Froch, doubtless, merely gave this answer in response to a direct question aimed at him regarding Khan, but even so, I do think there's a case to be heard for some unnecessary exaggerations within those quotes - and saying that a fighter, already a world champion but still just twenty-five, should pack it in on the basis of two defeats (one of them very questionable for two or three reasons) like this does seem fanciful, to me.

Froch is at the top so he can afford to stick the boot in and its the reason I didn't like him before. Theres much to respect about Froch but this is one of the things that grates a little, I remember how quick he was to put the boot in after Prescott ... perhaps he likes to follow the way the wind blows but and. I think that Froch is seriously bitter about not being in the limelight (with some justification).

azania wrote:Are you the same age as your cousin?

Speaking of ages, are you really 100 Az? Perhaps you're one of these sprightly old dogs who's still sharp of wit and up for a fight , yet the years have taken their toll on the senses and you can be capable of being pretty loopy on ocassions. Yeah it makes sense.

I age disgracefully.

Yeah i thought i remembered the two disagreeing not too long ago, Khan was saying he was jealous because nobody knows him

He is just replying to a question though and is good considering the history between the two.

Khan has responsed to Froch and I can feel a war of words starting here.. Also states he is considering ditching Freddie Roach.

Amir Khan has dismissed suggestions that he should retire after losing his WBA light-welterweight title with a fourth-round defeat by Danny Garcia.

Khan also lost to Lamont Peterson in December and IBF super-middleweight world champion Carl Froch said his boxing career was now "a write-off".

But the Bolton fighter, 25, told BBC Sport: "I'm not talking about retiring, I'm still young, I've got a lot in me.

"I'm still hungry and I'll come back a lot better and a lot stronger."

Froch claimed that if he were in the same position as his compatriot, he would hang up his gloves.

But Khan responded: "Carl's always got his little things to say and I'll leave it to that really. If he wants to retire he can retire.

"I'm in a tougher division, I'm fighting better opposition and I'm a bigger name than him. That's what burns him really.

"People are going to say things after this fight, but people said things after the Prescott fight and you see how I came back from there."

Prior to the fight, Khan had talked about stepping up to welterweight for a meeting with unbeaten American Floyd Mayweather.

He now admits it is more likely he will remain at light-welterweight for at least one more bout.

"It's put things back," he explained. "I made 140lb very comfortably this time and I think it will be ideal for me to stay maybe one more fight - if I can win the title and then move up to 147lb. No rush.

"People believe 'Amir should be moving up, doing this, doing that'. People forget how old I am. I'm still young and there's a lot I need to work on before I do move up to the next division.

"We're going to try for the rematch. I don't know if they're going to take it, but if we can get that in England it will be amazing."

Khan insisted he had "no regrets" apart from the huge left hook that dropped him to the canvas in round three.

Trainer Freddie Roach feels his fighter can return from this latest setback, but Khan hinted that he would examine their partnership.

Khan has spent a number of months away from home, training in Los Angeles and the Philippines before facing Garcia in Las Vegas.

"I'm going to sit down when I go home and see where we go from there," he added. "I want to be the main priority.

"A lot of travelling - going to the Philippines, here, there, everywhere - does take a lot out of you, especially when you're a young fighter and I've never done it before.

"I'm going to start thinking about myself because normally I'm thinking about others too much and I'm the one who's in the ring taking the punishment. It's time now where maybe I do things a bit differently.
"When you're nice and just agree with everything, sometimes even though you're not happy doing things, you just do them. But I'm going to have to sit down with the team now and do things I want to do.

"There are a lot of untied knots there and we're going to fix them."

I don't like him but good for him, obviously getting sick of Pacquiao dragging him about the world and playing second fiddle.

My memory is a little hazy but didnt their feud once stem from Khan saying 'I would be a much bigger boxer in Britain if i was white' or words to that effect. Or am i completley making that up?

As to the situation, i dont like it. Two boxers who can never fighteach other mouthing off, its pointless. I just think Froch has been misquoted, but he knew what he was saying. Khan's speil about fightin in a harder division is bull in my opinion if you look at the last 5 fights or so.

Jab to An MD wrote: I just think Froch has been misquoted, but he knew what he was saying. .

Nope. I heard him on talksport yesterday morning. He actually said Khan should retire because he's found his level and you can't train your chin. 2 perfectly reasonable points.

seanmichaels wrote:

Jab to An MD wrote: I just think Froch has been misquoted, but he knew what he was saying. .

Nope. I heard him on talksport yesterday morning. He actually said Khan should retire because he's found his level and you can't train your chin. 2 perfectly reasonable points.

They are fair points, but the BBC has made it sound worse than it is. It is possible sometimes to lie with the truth. Whilst i dont think Khan should retire, i think he needs to take a serious look at himself and his career goals.

Jab to An MD wrote:

seanmichaels wrote:

Jab to An MD wrote: I just think Froch has been misquoted, but he knew what he was saying. .

Nope. I heard him on talksport yesterday morning. He actually said Khan should retire because he's found his level and you can't train your chin. 2 perfectly reasonable points.

They are fair points, but the BBC has made it sound worse than it is. It is possible sometimes to lie with the truth. Whilst i dont think Khan should retire, i think he needs to take a serious look at himself and his career goals.

Not sure they did. Froch and Khan have a history. Khan made derogastory comments after the Kessler (and Ward?) fights. May be it's just a bit of payback.

Couple of examples from the past:

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/boxing/2563759/Carl-Froch-taunts-WBA-king-Amir-Khan.html

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?p=12336380

seanmichaels wrote:

Jab to An MD wrote:

seanmichaels wrote:

Jab to An MD wrote: I just think Froch has been misquoted, but he knew what he was saying. .

Nope. I heard him on talksport yesterday morning. He actually said Khan should retire because he's found his level and you can't train your chin. 2 perfectly reasonable points.

They are fair points, but the BBC has made it sound worse than it is. It is possible sometimes to lie with the truth. Whilst i dont think Khan should retire, i think he needs to take a serious look at himself and his career goals.

Not sure they did. Froch and Khan have a history. Khan made derogastory comments after the Kessler (and Ward?) fights. May be it's just a bit of payback.

Yeah could be, IMO it all comes down to @i'm the toughest boxer in britain' 'No I am' Sour Grapes an One-upmanship from both sides. Like i say, its pointless as they can never fight

I defiantely dont think they like each other and while I think Froch has been misquoted and misrepresented in the past, especially in the Calzaghe years, this time the language and delivery he used in assessing Khan did little to disguise a certain venom.

Even on Ringside last week when Froch was on as a guest he didnt seem to like to Khan and bristled when Khan referred to himself as a superstar. Both guys obviously see themselves as the biggest names, most exciting and best fighters in Britain so I guess the rivalry is a little personal.

Jealousy is a bitch. Froch is jealous that Khan is a name and no one is interested in him. He's been on the road, he's took on the best blah blah blah the man has no personality. Froch may be Britains number 1 fighter but Khan is a bigger name and it clearly bugs him.

SugarRayRussell (PBK) wrote:Jealousy is a bitch. Froch is jealous that Khan is a name and no one is interested in him. He's been on the road, he's took on the best blah blah blah the man has no personality. Froch may be Britains number 1 fighter but Khan is a bigger name and it clearly bugs him.

You're right sugar. Although I prefer Froch over Khan, Froch is envious/bitter of Khan and they do have history but they are as bad as each other.

From memory Khan made his infamous comment that if he wasn't Pakistani he'd be a bigger star. This was IMO rubbish as he was at the time one of the biggest UK boxing stars at the time with good promotion deals and always soaked up more attention than any other boxer other than Hatton.

This irked Froch because he at the time and pretty much still now gets no attention so was annoyed Khan played the race card. Froch countered by saying he fights the tougher opposition, is entertaining and is a nobody in his own country.

When Froch lost to Kessler, Khan sent out sh!tty tweets saying pretty much "don't worry Froch I'll employ you to hand out my fliers, posters etc."

They had appeared to have cooled their feud but it appears theirs still a little animosity.

Perhaps if Froch develped a personality he would be more known. I read a quote of his somewhere that he is more known in USA than in UK. Sad if that is the case.

If you can listen to this, Froch makes quality points. Far removed from the sensationalist BBC article. Talksport really good (when Gough is not not the boxing expert - just said Haye has a rock solid chin......).

http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/boxing/120715/exclusive-%E2%80%93-froch-if-i-was-khan-i-would-retire-176674

Well it looks like a storm in a tea cup and has been cleared up. Froch has clarified what he said and explained hat he was misquoted by the press. He said, quite rightly, that were it to happen to him he would have retired. He's 35 and with 2 bad losses he would have to reconsider a career choice. He continued hat Khan is 25 and can come back.

All over guys.